Thcgos
Vape Addict
Oh wow!!! That's so cool!!!Had a friend with Android wear around for a little hack session today:
Is that a special gear/watch version of "Vaporizer control app"? Or just the standard version?
Crafty/Crafty+ by Storz & Bickel
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Is that a special gear/watch version of "Vaporizer control app"? Or just the standard version?
Mr Mellish
Well-Known Member
Finally got a chance to time my Crafty. Serial number < 500. FW 2.04. 31 hrs of usage. I've never fully drained the battery and never charged the battery while hot/warm.
Now I know why I always pick up the Firewood 3 these days. From cold start to temp #1 (374) took 2:56.
By that time, I've drained the FW3 and had a glass of water.
Now I know why I always pick up the Firewood 3 these days. From cold start to temp #1 (374) took 2:56.
By that time, I've drained the FW3 and had a glass of water.
justcametomind
Well-Known Member
I can't get rid of this vape. I'd prefer to get a Mighty and I probably will get one, just not in exchange for my only Crafty.
Mostly because it's palmable and keeps the time it gets used (124hrs after 10 months of use).
I asked s&B if I can get a Mighty in exchange of my 2.05 Crafty with old fins. They told me that's always possible but now I regret it and will not send mine in.
Someone needs to start producing CU mods with attached bowl minivap style or prepackable bowls (reduced conduction traded for portability).
Mostly because it's palmable and keeps the time it gets used (124hrs after 10 months of use).
I asked s&B if I can get a Mighty in exchange of my 2.05 Crafty with old fins. They told me that's always possible but now I regret it and will not send mine in.
Someone needs to start producing CU mods with attached bowl minivap style or prepackable bowls (reduced conduction traded for portability).
vapviking
Old & In the Way
Exchange for a Mighty may 'always be possible', but the rate you pay may vary.
I had a Crafty go in and it needed battery; I had to pay, and when I asked about Mighty instead, I was offered a $100 US discount (so it would have cost about $300). That Crafty then crapped out and went back, this time with an issue that was covered by warranty. I asked again about a Mighty (having returned Crafty #3) and was offered a 'warranty exchange' for $60, the difference in retail price between the two.
i am very happy I made the exchange.
ligi
ligi
It is a speacial version of the VCC app - can even run without the phone just crafty<>watch
justcametomind
Well-Known Member
The coolest thing would be having an app that could turn the phone in vaping mode, like when Google maps navigation is activated, with the ability to heat up using volume buttons. Another cool thing could be using physical buttons on the phone to trigger different pre-set temps. I'd love being able to have an optional 165°C other than 185/205 already on the Crafty. For the first 2 tasty hits when I get to try a new strain or whenever I want to.
Thcgos
Vape Addict
Awesome! You deserve a medal for these hacks/apps. I use VCC from my phone due to lack of 2.04 from the official s&b app.
Just goes to show you how uninspired s&b are. They could provide all these features if they put some time and effort into it.
@ligi can you upload the APK here or to the play store?
My friend has a galaxy gear and was drooling when I showed him your hack/app.
vts
Well-Known Member
Hey fellow vapers, it's been awhile, my replacement Crafty has been working great. It's going on 4 months, it's a 2.08v. I don't use it as much, because I've got the Mighty, just on weekends when I'm out. I've noticed the cold air does slow performance down. Other than that, it's so small and so powerful, it's a great vape. I know the reliability issues, but I had no problems with SnB replacing my unit. This was my first vape and my daily driver, until I got the Daisy and the Mighty.
One thing I realized, the Crafty should not be your everyday vape, I don't think it was made for that. The Mighty on the other hand is more heavy duty and can be used daily. I know they're expensive, but what other vape this size works this well, let me know... Seriously, I'd like to know.
So the moral of the story is have a back up if you own a Crafty.
It's like that hot girlfriend who treats you real sweet then dumps you, BAM! Only there's no warranty with a hot girl.
One thing I realized, the Crafty should not be your everyday vape, I don't think it was made for that. The Mighty on the other hand is more heavy duty and can be used daily. I know they're expensive, but what other vape this size works this well, let me know... Seriously, I'd like to know.
So the moral of the story is have a back up if you own a Crafty.
It's like that hot girlfriend who treats you real sweet then dumps you, BAM! Only there's no warranty with a hot girl.
Vapinmofo
Well-Known Member
Just for clarity, for a full bowl is it the red line you go up to? I only ask as I've seen someone go beyond the line when filling their chamber...
Yup thats exactly right.
Oneeyeisbetter
Well-Known Member
I have 17 hours on the Crafty, and I do get that all that the relatively thin hard resin, as superior quality as it is, is not impervious to the long term effects of heat. The Crafty is a small, and low heft, almost delicate feeling device. It's not until you start start turning the pieces that you get how solid it is. I sense that you are right, that the heftier Mighty is going to stand up to use for more hours of operation. Yet the Mighty has the same resin, same cooling fin thickness, same threading dimensions oven housing thickness as the Crafty, I don't expect we'll see a huge difference in heat induced housing failure. Some but not huge. Would be fun to know.
Heat stress to the electronics in the Crafty seems a possibility. Looking at some of the FLIR images, you can see how if you are not drawing air while the preheat tube is cooking along at 27 watts its going to get hot down at the intake. The electronics are close in to the air intake. If the Mighty has more heat isolation than the Crafty, that could boost expected longevity past the Crafty.
I have 2 MFLBs, I like the redundancy. I am loving the Crafty so much, probably going to go redundant here also. For a lot of reasons including the longevity factor, it makes more sense to add a Mighty to my team than a second Crafty.
vapviking
Old & In the Way
Redundancy is the name of the game with Crafty, but more like backup vape is what most folks seem to have (need).
Get the Mighty, you will not be sorry! Then use that Crafty less.
Oh, and Welcome!
Thcgos
Vape Addict
Yeah my friend has no idea about vapes or Australian consumer law. He didn't say anyrhing to me and went ahead and processed a claim through ausvapes (aka Australian Vaporizers) and specifically told them the battery died.
It was working perfectly fine and then one day it didn't turn on, that would not indicate a battery failure to me... More likely the power switch or IC board failure (his power switch felt loose compared to mine). But he specifically told them his battery failed (I don't know what possessed him to diagnose his own fault with no knowledge on the matter).
They said to him battery replacement wasn't covered and asked him to pay AUD$120.
This is in less than 10 months of use!
He paid it and got a brand new unit sent, BUT they opened it up and took out the accessories!?!? (seems pretty tight to me).
He has more money than sense and was just happy to have a new unit back in his hands so quickly.
I can tell you if that was me, I would not have accepted that.
But it's mostly his fault for diagnosising his own fault (without any knowledge) and paying $120 without question.
@Stinky FYI. Not that I matters to us who know our Australian consumer rights.
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ligi
ligi
This will only work on android wear - so your friend might have the wrong watch for this - also I will not yet release it - just a PoC currently - the MAC of my crafty is hard-coded for example ;-)
Stinky
Well-Known Member
Not just me but the Australian Office of Fair Trading. They confirmed it to me in writing before I bought my unit.
Ausvapes will take liberties until you remind them of their responsibilities. They often tried to get me to pay for postage on my warranty returns until I reminded them that they had told me that they will pay for all postage. Contact your local Office of Fair Trading and get it in writing from them that the batteries in these units are covered under warranty by Australian Consumer Law. Ausvapes are pretty cool and should refund your mate the money he paid to have his batteries replaced.
Kingstontown
New Member
I most be doing something wrong.
Crafty got harsh and battery temp hot
Could not use it over Christmas so I bought a mighty.
When I shipped of crafty my mighty died. It was only 2 weeks old.
Storz and buckle said they would help to speed warranty
Paid extra to ship from Canada.
Crafty arrived on Monday and mighty Tuesday
Wednesday got a call for money because of parts ordered. They were wrong because I only got one shipping credit and was promised two.
Had to write a email complaining about they don't care that my only 2 vapes are in for warranty and I just wanted one back.
I guess I made a mistake complaining because I got a crafty version 2.08 plus orange stick loose. It took 2 weeks to get one back.
Bought a haze v3 and can't wait to try it so I can cut my lost.
Crafty got harsh and battery temp hot
Could not use it over Christmas so I bought a mighty.
When I shipped of crafty my mighty died. It was only 2 weeks old.
Storz and buckle said they would help to speed warranty
Paid extra to ship from Canada.
Crafty arrived on Monday and mighty Tuesday
Wednesday got a call for money because of parts ordered. They were wrong because I only got one shipping credit and was promised two.
Had to write a email complaining about they don't care that my only 2 vapes are in for warranty and I just wanted one back.
I guess I made a mistake complaining because I got a crafty version 2.08 plus orange stick loose. It took 2 weeks to get one back.
Bought a haze v3 and can't wait to try it so I can cut my lost.
biohacker
HREAM
Not sure what is going on with your Crafty, but how did your Mighty die? It just stopped turning on?
My recent new model Crafty also had a loose orange stir tool but I thought it was normal since it uses a USB port unlike the Mighty. It bugged me a little due to the lack of stealth (could hear is wiggling/knocking around).
You may be disappointed with the Haze v3 in comparison to the Crafty/Mighty, but that's just IMO. Now that the new Boundless vape has been released, it has my eye as a solid replacement for the Crafty, with a much, much faster heatup time. Time will tell.
My recent new model Crafty also had a loose orange stir tool but I thought it was normal since it uses a USB port unlike the Mighty. It bugged me a little due to the lack of stealth (could hear is wiggling/knocking around).
You may be disappointed with the Haze v3 in comparison to the Crafty/Mighty, but that's just IMO. Now that the new Boundless vape has been released, it has my eye as a solid replacement for the Crafty, with a much, much faster heatup time. Time will tell.
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Mr. Me2
Well-Known Member
I couldn't find a Boundless thread. Want to start one?
Mustang_52
Active Member
Very interested in this, can't wait to hear feedback.
biohacker
HREAM
It is the GH! However, I do not have strong faith in it lasting! Furthermore, i'm not so sure that the GH is a good replacement for the Crafty after all, simply because I think that they are just too different. My wife will most likely not be able to handle the GH due to its short vapour path and heat, unless she can get decent hits on the lower temps that are comfortable. If the GH shits the bed, and/or the wife doesn't like it - I will be forced to purchase another Crafty, unless the Boundless comes through!
Kingstontown
New Member
Yes it would not shut off then after time out it did not start.
Just wanted to express my experience because I have read about people getting back units in a week from Canada plus getting newer version of crafty. It has been 2 long weeks even tried smoking again but I couldn't stand it. Got all new meds and couldn't use them. Two weeks is long
I was impressed with haze rep on forum and since I have the mighty did not want my back up to be with a company that probably has too many returns. I thinks that is the real problem. Maybe they care but money always wins
FREUDSLITTLEDICK
FreudsLittleDick
I cant decide weather buying the crafty or the mighty.
Its a stack of money so i want it to live long.
Is the battery the onely issue wth the crafty when i take care of the housing?
A battery-exchange would not hurt me that much when this is the onely thing to do,to keep it alive.
So do you think it can stay with me for like4-5 years when i take care?
I'll probably use it 5times a week..
Thx
Its a stack of money so i want it to live long.
Is the battery the onely issue wth the crafty when i take care of the housing?
A battery-exchange would not hurt me that much when this is the onely thing to do,to keep it alive.
So do you think it can stay with me for like4-5 years when i take care?
I'll probably use it 5times a week..
Thx