natural farmer
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Vaporizers are not legal??? You can use them with any herbal blend…
Crafty/Crafty+ by Storz & Bickel
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max
Out to lunch
You're changing the preset temps. Whatever you change them to are the new presets. The default settings are good ones, but I don't know why they didn't set it up for 3 settings instead of just 2.
jdee
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max
Out to lunch
Only if you want to use the app. Plenty of people will just use it with the default settings. OTOH playing with the various app options is an attraction, and besides price, is one reason I'm sure the Crafty will outsell the Mighty by a large margin.
Roth
Pining for the Mountains
Agreed completely. Plus the lack of a USB port on the Mighty is off-putting to me as well. The option of having a USB battery pack for many extra charges is quite nice. Those battery packs can hold a LOT of charge.
I'm just waiting to see a performance comparison between the Crafty and Mighty now. If the Crafty is indeed 27W instead of 10W, and can perform comparably to the Mighty, it will definitely be my choice.
QualityVapes
Active Member
When you turn the Crafty on it heats up to it's “base temperature” and if you press the button it goes up to it's “boast temperature.” Both temps are adjustable on the app and will be saved. But if you want to use any other temps besides your desired two temps then you need the app.
The app has a dial. It shows the temp your trying to adjust it to and it'll show you the actual tempterature rising just like the Mighty. And it shows your battery life. There is a pic of the app on Vape Critic's post.
http://www.vapecritic.com/blog/2014/10/16/crafty-mighty-vaporizers/
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MinnBobber
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Maybe it can be added to the app later on? Assuming there is no hardware restriction, programming the button for different presses etc.
Osn Dosn
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Oh, so what I thought I understood and said was not entirely correct: the heating unit is almost definitely the same for both units, but the Mighty can draw a higher power from the battery, resulting in not entirely twice the battery life either. So question is as said if its 30 vs. 27W difference - or 30 vs 10, and what does this affect: only the time to heat up and between hits or the overall 'power', while technically working at the same effective °C/°F ?! So many questions, don't know what to buy. They should work on their communication. Hey, they should hire me.
lwien
Well-Known Member
Or? Maybe it's just semantics, but I view a vaporizer that can maintain it's dialed in temp during a hit and in-between hits as being more powerful than a vaporizer that can't.
A higher wattage vaporizer, depending on it's design, may be able to maintain that temp better than a lower wattage vaporizer, eh?
yes. ... well, it really depends on current, which is a factor in wattage.
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smokum
I am who I am and your approval isn't needed!
I'm interested in hearing/seeing results of their "stainless steel Liquid Pad that was developed for the vaporization of liquids and oils" in use with this 
And $7.90 usd for a 4-pack sure doesn't hurt for once (I wonder what their dimensions are for some 'other' certain devices I have hmm ?)
And $7.90 usd for a 4-pack sure doesn't hurt for once (I wonder what their dimensions are for some 'other' certain devices I have hmm ?)
fernand
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Wow! with a bluetooth remote! My dad used to tell about a guy who designed an envelope opener that filled half a room. That was before miniaturization. Now it fits in the palm of your hand. I look at the MLFB and ...with an MFLB at $80 it's not a bad price on the Crafty, when I think of the space station's amount of technology in it. Now more than "do i need this" the question for the gadget-enamoured among us is whether it's reliable.
They do make some very sophisticated liquid pads. Stainless steel and they pull apart into something like a wire screen tube sock. It's one continuous wire! That conducts the heat very well. I've used a portion of one in both Solo and Firefly with excellent results. Best to pull it into its tube form and snip off a piece, then fold it back down. You'll see.
I look at the MFLB again and I'm torn between "excellent appropriate technology" and "Neanderthal". Or "Post-industrial".
But wait, this S&B is just a thermostat and a hot wire. The CPU that runs the heater curve has lots of spare cycles and I/O. Just because you package it like a Glock and put a Bluetooth chip in it doesn't make it THAT expensive .... Or does Hans in the labcoat come to your house when you over-vape and you can't operate your device?
They do make some very sophisticated liquid pads. Stainless steel and they pull apart into something like a wire screen tube sock. It's one continuous wire! That conducts the heat very well. I've used a portion of one in both Solo and Firefly with excellent results. Best to pull it into its tube form and snip off a piece, then fold it back down. You'll see.
I look at the MFLB again and I'm torn between "excellent appropriate technology" and "Neanderthal". Or "Post-industrial".
But wait, this S&B is just a thermostat and a hot wire. The CPU that runs the heater curve has lots of spare cycles and I/O. Just because you package it like a Glock and put a Bluetooth chip in it doesn't make it THAT expensive .... Or does Hans in the labcoat come to your house when you over-vape and you can't operate your device?
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@Hippie Dickie
The vapes instructions list the "only herbs" the crafty is meant to be used for. Weed is not on that list. The app also lists these herbs and gives vape temps.
So that's probably how they will be able to get the app on the apple store
The vapes instructions list the "only herbs" the crafty is meant to be used for. Weed is not on that list. The app also lists these herbs and gives vape temps.
So that's probably how they will be able to get the app on the apple store
Caligula
Maximus
It's true, letter openers used to be quite large back in the day.
Thank god for miniaturization!
natural farmer
Well-Known Member
These two threads need to get back together…
max
Out to lunch
Just because they have some common ground? So do the SSV and DBV. In fact, you could argue that those two have more in common than the S&B portables, since they use the same electronics and heater. The Crafty and Mighty have more than enough differences for separate threads.These two threads need to get back together…
green2brown
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S&B got back to me this morning. There is no difference in terms of vapor output between the two models. Question answered 
As for the specific power draw, the Crafty uses 27 watts and the Mighty uses 30 watts. Both of these figures were quoted as "capacity... when heating up the devices."
Charge time for each vape is approximately 2 hours. The Crafty draws 10 watts during charging, while the Mighty draws 36 watts. Due to the higher draw of the Mighty, it does not have USB because charging "will take too long."
So there we go, a few answers to some key questions.
As for the specific power draw, the Crafty uses 27 watts and the Mighty uses 30 watts. Both of these figures were quoted as "capacity... when heating up the devices."
Charge time for each vape is approximately 2 hours. The Crafty draws 10 watts during charging, while the Mighty draws 36 watts. Due to the higher draw of the Mighty, it does not have USB because charging "will take too long."
So there we go, a few answers to some key questions.
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OMEiAM
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Hearing this makes the Crafty more interesting to me. Thanks!S&B got back to me this morning. There is no difference in terms of vapor output between the two models. Question answered
As for the specific power draw, the Crafty uses 27 watts and the Mighty uses 30 watts. Both of these figures were quoted as "capacity... when heating up the devices."
Charge times for each vape is approximately 2 hours. The Crafty draws 10 watts during charging, while the Mighty draws 36 watts. Due to the higher draw of the Mighty, it does not have USB because charging "will take too long."
So there we go, a few answers to some key questions.
green2brown
Well-Known Member
I wrote S&B asking if they have an estimate for the approval/release date of the iOS app. Hopefully it's soon! Holding onto my money until then.
It takes around 11 days for an app to be approved. This is only information I have found online.
I am also considering crafty now that I have seen the app. I just want to know how it compares to ascent so I'm waiting for a couple of reviews. And also what battery is like
I am also considering crafty now that I have seen the app. I just want to know how it compares to ascent so I'm waiting for a couple of reviews. And also what battery is like
