way to be on the ball, buddy.
20% off is really tempting... and those fancy cooling fins i didn't notice until that picture might have swayed me
...gonna start doing some finger stretches now to get ready
Crafty/Crafty+ by Storz & Bickel
- Thread starter Roger D
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way to be on the ball, buddy.
20% off is really tempting... and those fancy cooling fins i didn't notice until that picture might have swayed me
...gonna start doing some finger stretches now to get ready
blackstone
Well-Known Member
My secondhand 2017 Crafty didn't crack but I didnt use it like hell either, so this new one should stay together OK.
My Mighty from around 2018 did crack in a few regular spots like my 1st Mighty, but without affecting use.
I just ordered Crafty+ from @VapoShop with 20% off so I'm looking forward to next week!
Surprisingly, almost every EU/UK retailer has them in stock already.
It looked a bit confusing on the SB site and didn't show discount in late stages of checkout, so I've just ordered one from a reputable EU vendor (Vaposhop NL) at the same offer and that was all simply discounted since midnight in EU I think.
Jeez the Hybrid has the sting taken out of the price a bit too!
If you happen to miss out they will likely do the same again on 4/20. And there may be a Mighty+ by then, or something else!
vapviking
Old & In the Way
Thanks, @blackstone , it's a great price for a Crafty+. Even though I'm not positioned to by a new Crafty+ right now, I can still dream.
blackstone
Well-Known Member
WOW. I could have used that €47! Hey @VapoShop what about a Delta 3D Water Pipe Adapter to make it up to me ha ha!
Nice find. It appeared to me they didn't have it in stock yet, but now that I search the site..
Im going to write it down for 4/20, thats a lovely deal on a 220V EVO HT package also if it works for that (€307).
I lost my marbles over the EVO on that website last year too after I learned they wouldn't take Paypal that time. I thought the deals wouldn't be repeated.
How about now!?^^^^
Ah I know, I put in the stress and work to sell a vape, save hard and get ready. I'm worn out from it
Hope you enjoy a relaxing weekend with the ones you already have!
chlorophyll_man
AVB Inspector
I thought this might have been their mistake but it's been up all day at this price with code CYBER:
Crafty+ at Namaste UK £142.80 free delivery.
Crafty+ at Namaste UK £142.80 free delivery.
This could be a couple things ... could be your temp sensor next to the battery, or your battery could actually be getting too hot (which the sensor is supposed to detect).
Hopefully not the sensor as these are hard to come by! But if it's the cell, I can help you out there.
audiodelic
... Boom Shiva !
The Crafty+ has just arrived at @VapoShop EU and they offer us 10% off and free ship (so €268.20 w/code I think)
https://www.vaposhop.com/vaporizer-brands/storz-bickel/crafty-plus/?utm_source=Vaposhop+Various+(English)&utm_campaign=3c93692a65-11-2019+VapoShop+Stand-alone+Crafty++EN&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_cc0c15b6e3-3c93692a65-131448985&mc_cid=3c93692a65&mc_eid=2f3619047d
That new little disc in the center of the bowl must be one way how it works differently or quicker, and it looks like something other than aluminium.
Maybe a radiation disc or some kinda valve?
I used to get metallic taste from an OG Solo bowl (I thought) and i liked aluminium because it was neutral to me.
Maybe the material used here or the difference in heating is why some users are saying the vapor is different.
But if it tastes like my OG Solo I'll sell it again!
And we'll have to do a mass protest if they make the Mighty taste different or not better!
I might be wrong , but the white disc looks like small heater core so that the air get a heat boost when you inhale from this core, does it look like ceramic. By heating the core with residual heat from the main heater below they are optimizing the battery by extracting more heat in the same power consumption.
How else does the same size battery give more hits per charge compare to the older crafty, since the heater is now more efficient thanks to the ceramic core.
Again this is all guess work.
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Plenty of purchase and shipment emails from vaposhop but not a word from nameste. I should've paid for express shipping, waiting all weeks gonna kill me. Im off on a 2 day break on Saturday so let's hope they're both here by Then! I'll be sure to give it a good running and a compare to my buddies mighty when i get it! For science!
E2a my friends from nameste has landed for £148. Mine will be here tomo!
E2a my friends from nameste has landed for £148. Mine will be here tomo!
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Yes they are not very responsive ... but they have the best price on black friday. I already bought them a lot of vapes and everything goes well. last year it took me about two weeks to get my crafty and my plenty on black friday...usually they respond by chat
blackstone
Well-Known Member
That's sorta what I thought, a permanent opening, or that it might be a thermostatic or draw activated click valve, or just something with different properties to Au.
On their website it looks like they used an old Crafty for the bowl shot. Its hard to see any disc on there.
They may have achieved the extra power by using a higher wattage heater, or simply having more available power, after redesigning to save losses in the circuit board. Like Hopper Labs have done with their next vape.
Vaposhop are at about 2/10 for me now. They changed from using DHL it seems and the tracking is really poor, they could offer absolutely nothing extra for an FC member in need,
and now people that ordered the €170/€190 ones from another good authorised retailer are getting them already.
What a sting in the tail. Ill remember this one!
They must've changed ownership or something, maybe around the time the FC discounts and presence were wound back a little.
That's exactly what they did ...
They drilled a hole in the aluminum and now what you see is the cartridge heater which is stainless ...
With this huge upgrade (read hole) the crafty heats faster, has better air flow and saves battery power. (penso eu de que...)
kitkatjam22
Well-Known Member
I ordered a crafty + on Thursday night, well actually it was Black Friday at 1:00 am... and I still haven’t received tracking info or anything other than the original email saying my order was confirmed.
is this common with Storz? I was kind of hoping I’d have it by today, considering their USA store is in Oakland and I’m in SoCal
is this common with Storz? I was kind of hoping I’d have it by today, considering their USA store is in Oakland and I’m in SoCal
NeedleNuts
Well-Known Member
I hear you. Horrbile waiting for the toy. Bet you can't wait. I'd love to have the crafty
Bunny
Well-Known Member
Got my Crafty + from Namaste vapes Must have been the best Black Friday deal on the net £143! Better air flow and 5-6 bowls per charge so far. Loving the improvements
A few more thoughts. I’m loving the new form factor. I like to hold it back to front and tilt it back. The new heaters great especially outside.I forgot what a beast this is l! I prefer to load the chamber direct with more herb for bigger tastier hits I’m really happy it’s already saving me money keeping me off those £100 a gram Hash Rosin dabs.
A few more thoughts. I’m loving the new form factor. I like to hold it back to front and tilt it back. The new heaters great especially outside.I forgot what a beast this is l! I prefer to load the chamber direct with more herb for bigger tastier hits I’m really happy it’s already saving me money keeping me off those £100 a gram Hash Rosin dabs.
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thx1138
Well-Known Member
so I ordered this new Rube Goldberg millenial version of the Crafty Plus (which is how I describe any vape that needs an app to work properly, two devices to operate one, and its gotta be an "app") during the big sale over the weekend, and I emailed the company this afternoon (Wednesday, not too impatient?) asking if they had an idea of when they would ship the vape since I had no contact from them indicating any activity
the response was that I may find an email in my spam folder when it ships
that was it, left me with a bit of a wtf honestly
hoping for better!
the response was that I may find an email in my spam folder when it ships
that was it, left me with a bit of a wtf honestly
hoping for better!
dotcodotuk
Active Member
Thank you for pointing this out - had seen the Sneaky Pete review of the Crafty+ and felt an urge to try one out, so this was perfect timing.
My first vape was a Solo II, which I found a bit too fiddly to use and the auto shut-off drive me nuts, then moved on to Dynavaps and never quite found the sweet spot with those. This Crafty+ is just what I needed - simplicity itself to use (no need for the app to get up-and-running) plus it hits hard and works like an absolute charm.
It is a bit weird how cheap it feels - the box is very under par for the price you would pay and the vape itself feels somewhat insubstantial to hold, but there is no denying its ease of use and the way it goes about its work. I am incredibly impressed with the out of the box experience.
karec
Well-Known Member
3 years ago when my OG died on me i didnt had a solution to fix it, S&B didnt offer a repair service and only 50€ discount on a new unit so i put it aside and got the IQ... i wasnt willing to pay that price every 2 years..., after i found a way (video) to repair it (thermal fuse red/yellow problem) so i replace the fuse with the same spec (184C 250V 10A) and i got it back to work. Everything went fine but after some time the same problem happened so instead of replacing the thermal fuse with a similar spec one i decided to increase the spec (192c 250C 10A) and since i was at it i also replace the original battery to a Sony VTC6 3000mAh 20A to get ate least 3 solid sessions i hoped... now my only problem is the plastic body but fortunately i found an alternative and im waiting for that to put everything back together.
Im just saying this because my OG is still working and can last 4 sessions, its not a + but S&B won't see my money again with updated outdated vapes, they have the ability to put new stuff but are in a coma for years now regarding new and excitant stuff... still a great vape and prob this updates are overdue for 2 years, the 20% battery increase should have all the + updates and now was the time for new stuff (even if it was just for pods or cartridges).
Since i didnt tried the + i dont know if the differences are enough to get one, and i will continue to say if you dont have a Crafty get one, im not yet convinced that all these changes are good in terms of vapor quality, we know now that heater, battery and PCB were improved in terms of heating speed, more sessions and charging time but if you dont have an increase in vapor quality....is it real worth or we just buying a new Cell phone just because we want the latest new thing?
Now im thinking to get rid of the IQ and get a new portable... which one i dont know yet, maybe the TinyMight if the buzz in the end is worth but in a C+ no way, i will only give money again to S&B when they decide to work and put out a new portable device (if its good)
Cheers
Im just saying this because my OG is still working and can last 4 sessions, its not a + but S&B won't see my money again with updated outdated vapes, they have the ability to put new stuff but are in a coma for years now regarding new and excitant stuff... still a great vape and prob this updates are overdue for 2 years, the 20% battery increase should have all the + updates and now was the time for new stuff (even if it was just for pods or cartridges).
Since i didnt tried the + i dont know if the differences are enough to get one, and i will continue to say if you dont have a Crafty get one, im not yet convinced that all these changes are good in terms of vapor quality, we know now that heater, battery and PCB were improved in terms of heating speed, more sessions and charging time but if you dont have an increase in vapor quality....is it real worth or we just buying a new Cell phone just because we want the latest new thing?
Now im thinking to get rid of the IQ and get a new portable... which one i dont know yet, maybe the TinyMight if the buzz in the end is worth but in a C+ no way, i will only give money again to S&B when they decide to work and put out a new portable device (if its good)
Cheers
blackstone
Well-Known Member
I got UPS tracking from them on something in Europe last year. But dont know what they do now.
It almost seems like Storz are in with all the couriers on this, and they're stringing it out like that launch to make us want it more, or something.
Mine just arrived (from a retailer) now, about a week after placing order. Maill offices overly busy from Black Friday now too?
Have it on charge now, looks cool, pick tool looks a little more flimsy, box is really small that's kinda cool.
I had issue connecting to app but it was because serial number required an "o" instead of a zero, hard to spot first!
The vape has that mild detergent or soap odor like my last few,
Might be nice if they used an even lesser fragranced variety for parts washing and rinsing.
Or maybe its from materials, or mold release agents.
Ill give it a proper wipe down and heat it soon as it's charged will be good.
Retailer gave me a ginger sample to "burn off" with but doubt I'll use that.
That's amazing, really nice deal. They always went the extra mile with discount. Did you get a newsletter about it? Don't know why im not on that list already!
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audiodelic
... Boom Shiva !
I had two dead OG crafty's in a span of three years, second one died in few months itself. Promised myself will never buy again.
But its the only vape that does the no external power camping scenario well for me, since i dont own a dynavap. I will carry few portable battery packs and use that as backup.
So after seeing troys review, i pulled the trigger, im hoping for a better reliability with this new model.
But its the only vape that does the no external power camping scenario well for me, since i dont own a dynavap. I will carry few portable battery packs and use that as backup.
So after seeing troys review, i pulled the trigger, im hoping for a better reliability with this new model.
I agree with you on both, but I don't think its the sensor cause I literally can feel it's warmer than normal, plus my crafty is only lasting like 2 bowls before the battery temp to high comes on and battery is dying really fast, I've talked to you before about a battery just working on getting the cash
blackstone
Well-Known Member
Well that mild soap style fragrance is still there for me, it almost never left my 2017 Crafty. Surprised I don't hear more about it. But it might be affecting some peoples impressions of these vapes at first. My first Mighty seemed fine, maybe it's heat resistant plastic smell.
But my first thoughts are that the vapor is great, with a full capsule 0.12 - 0.14 you get some great tasty pulls but it did seem to get toasty quite quick, not sure if toasty faster than old Crafty. I think the initial factory fragrance probably doesn't help this.
That was starting at 180 and temp boosting.
Maybe with this different heater you will get nice rips for longer at lower temps. The OG one wasn't bad at that either.
With my style use that I normally do with Mighty where I put about 0.05 - 0.07 in a cap with small pad at full temperature and heatsoak for a minute, then run through water,
this Crafty+ is absolutely brilliant! The airflow (better than my 2018 Mighty), and extraction through water is amazing and I think it's as strong, maybe stronger than my Mighty in this use. I was almost too nicely! Still hitting hard.
But my mind tells me to probably stick to using Mighty at high temp through water at home for now, though I will definitely probably benefit greatly from what a Mighty+ would offer me for home use through water like this, I really look forward,
As I'm the type that would like to have both these vapes for different uses.
I'll sell my Mighty soon to prepare.
And i dont find the costs excessive or wasteful all things considered, and with 3 yr warranty on each.
The ABV might have been slightly darker from caps I did in the Mighty, ill have to check this.
But this vape will do very well what I intended, really good hits, faster heating up than before, and extract fast/hit hard when I sneak off for a minute.
It's like the 3 temp settings are how quickly you need to get done, and how strong the vapor is.
I timed the heat up roughly:
Crafty+ about 95% charged room temperature to 180c = 68 seconds. To 210c = 87 seconds.
Mighty fully charged and plugged in, room temp to 180c = 75 seconds. To 210c = 94 seconds.
Battery life so far seems very ample for my uses with this!
I am stuck with some file exception message on the app on android its probably the age of my tablet.
I only want to dim the lights so far though, i think I turned on vibration but cant see my hours yet.
Also @ohmygodimsohigh said in his vid that Craftys have no way to tell you battery life, but on both models when you power off there is a blue light.
Blue solid = battery good.
Blue slow flash = battery less good
Blue fast flash = Charge me now please!
Hope that helps someone sometime!
@audiodelic , I would have to fully agree with @karec that notable reliabilty improvements already seemed to become apparent in even 2017 models. Unless some bugs in a new vape? You should be OK!
But my first thoughts are that the vapor is great, with a full capsule 0.12 - 0.14 you get some great tasty pulls but it did seem to get toasty quite quick, not sure if toasty faster than old Crafty. I think the initial factory fragrance probably doesn't help this.
That was starting at 180 and temp boosting.
Maybe with this different heater you will get nice rips for longer at lower temps. The OG one wasn't bad at that either.
With my style use that I normally do with Mighty where I put about 0.05 - 0.07 in a cap with small pad at full temperature and heatsoak for a minute, then run through water,
this Crafty+ is absolutely brilliant! The airflow (better than my 2018 Mighty), and extraction through water is amazing and I think it's as strong, maybe stronger than my Mighty in this use. I was almost too nicely! Still hitting hard.
But my mind tells me to probably stick to using Mighty at high temp through water at home for now, though I will definitely probably benefit greatly from what a Mighty+ would offer me for home use through water like this, I really look forward,
As I'm the type that would like to have both these vapes for different uses.
I'll sell my Mighty soon to prepare.
And i dont find the costs excessive or wasteful all things considered, and with 3 yr warranty on each.
The ABV might have been slightly darker from caps I did in the Mighty, ill have to check this.
But this vape will do very well what I intended, really good hits, faster heating up than before, and extract fast/hit hard when I sneak off for a minute.
It's like the 3 temp settings are how quickly you need to get done, and how strong the vapor is.
I timed the heat up roughly:
Crafty+ about 95% charged room temperature to 180c = 68 seconds. To 210c = 87 seconds.
Mighty fully charged and plugged in, room temp to 180c = 75 seconds. To 210c = 94 seconds.
Battery life so far seems very ample for my uses with this!
I am stuck with some file exception message on the app on android its probably the age of my tablet.
I only want to dim the lights so far though, i think I turned on vibration but cant see my hours yet.
Also @ohmygodimsohigh said in his vid that Craftys have no way to tell you battery life, but on both models when you power off there is a blue light.
Blue solid = battery good.
Blue slow flash = battery less good
Blue fast flash = Charge me now please!
Hope that helps someone sometime!
@audiodelic , I would have to fully agree with @karec that notable reliabilty improvements already seemed to become apparent in even 2017 models. Unless some bugs in a new vape? You should be OK!