No error had an issue with the plastic housing on the hu breaking
Still no response from them as of today
Crafty/Crafty+ by Storz & Bickel
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No error had an issue with the plastic housing on the hu breaking
Still no response from them as of today
ambitiouscat321
Well-Known Member
The quality was great, as usual. (I live in Amsterdam). Crafty was fully charged.
I used my own grinder and did not use the tool to load the chamber. The unit reached without problems the temperatures I set and there was no resistance on the mouthpiece.
Wizsteve
Well-Known Member
Yes those temps are way too low for a haze you going to need to end at max temp however even than you wont reach 220c to get the thcv out of the haze (save your abv make oil )
vapviking
Old & In the Way
Were you getting any clouds at all?
(Dry material, fine grind, snugly packed)
What was color of material after vaping?
Geez,you should be feeling two bowls!
First vaporizer, but have you vaped previously? The high is a little different, maybe for you an "aquired" taste. Give it another try, for a day or so.
Oh, then try hitting on a joint. You may then realize the reasons for the name of this site. Or, if this is extraneous, please ignore...
It's also possible there's an air leak or some other trouble, this is why I'm asking about visual results, cloud & abv color.
ambitiouscat321
Well-Known Member
Hi and thanks for your answer.
I did see vapor thru all my session. Material was indeed fine grinded. The material color after vaping was brownish. I never vaped before this!
Maybe Wizsteve is right about the low temp. I'm gonna try a bowl of bubblegum.
P.S.: In which way the high of a joint is different than the one from a vaporizer?
UnshavenFish
Well-Known Member
When you say barely do you mean less of a body high and more of a lighter (functional) feeling, if you have just started vaping there is a transition period (happens with most people) smoking a joint is going to give different effects (although these are the bad things we are trying to avoid) when compared to vaping, those instant effects and throat hit from a joint are something your body/mind has learned to associate with getting/feeling high, they are not needed but it takes a little while for your mind to realise this, really you need to not smoke and just vape for around a week for your body/mind to adjust.
Your not alone, bit of reading but it might help to explain a few things...
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/combustion-gets-you-more-high.1867/#post-123842
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/trying-to-switch-to-vaping.18239/
Anyway welcome to FC, and good luck
keep us posted on how you get on.
vapviking
Old & In the Way
Great, great question!
It has given me pause to do up a bowl an contemplate, and to read @UnshavenFish 's thoughtful answer. Nicely put. I'll continue to contemplate, and hope to see some more member insights. Thanks.
and @aldoromu, welcome! we'll keep in mind that this thread is for Crafty talk, and as @UnshavenFish is pointing out, there are lots of other threads to follow. I hope your Crafty is okay and starts performing for you!
Mr. Me2
Well-Known Member
Regarding firefly v. Crafty, I have both so here's my 2 cents... Bottom line is I use my Crafty all the time and barely use my ff anymore.
The ff had its own production issues (don't know if all has been resolved). I'm on my 3rd and had a good experience with customer service. If you have a problem, you can only go direct with them if you buy direct from them. Also, each of my ff's performed differently. It has to do with the heater performance. I describe using it as finicky. You "control" the temperature by holding in the button. But you never know what the actual temp is. It requires stirring (which is a pain and a little messy). The build quality is excellent and cleaning is simple. When you get everything just right, flavor is the best. But that doesn't happen often enough. Short battery life, but replaceable batteries.
The Crafty doesn't taste quite as good, but it's not far off and flavor stays much more consistent. I love the flavor the Crafty puts out. No stirring and easy to use. You know about its battery life. I'm not a fan of its cu cleaning/maintenance and recommend getting at least one extra cu. I've had no problems with my Crafty, but I treat it pretty gingerly.
I describe the Crafty as a utilitarian design and the ff has a better aesthetic. Between the two, for me it's a no brainier - get the Crafty. And if you want a true pure convection vape, consider waiting for a grasshopper.
Hope this helps.
UniqueCrafty
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Alan Partridge
Smell my cheese
How are you pulling on it- straight to lung like a bong or mouth then lung like a cig? It works best straight to the lung.
UniqueCrafty
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Hey there again.
Im very happy with my crafty, but need a few more detailed info from you please.
Can i smoke 3 bowls one after the other with friends ?
And what about the perfect temperature to smoke, what do you think ?
How many hits can i expect from one bowl ?
Thanks!
Im very happy with my crafty, but need a few more detailed info from you please.
Can i smoke 3 bowls one after the other with friends ?
And what about the perfect temperature to smoke, what do you think ?
How many hits can i expect from one bowl ?
Thanks!
ambitiouscat321
Well-Known Member
Straight to lung. I guess I'm not used to the "different" high of a vaporizer...
MinnBobber
Well-Known Member
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As others have said, the vape high is different.
A combustion hit is 90% plus combustion by-products (nasty chemicals) while a vape hit is 90% "the good stuff".
Taking in a combustion hit is like hitting your body/brain with a hammer---kind of an emergency response like it's being invaded by all these toxic chemicals. POW
Vaping does not cause these bodily emergency responses so it is not as noticeable and the high also takes a little longer to come thru.
After you get used to vaping you will find the combustion hits nasty and disgusting.
Give it some time.
Try the max temp 410 F and please don't give up as vaping is MUCH better
vapviking
Old & In the Way
As long as you are all consenting adults!
But, seriously, the answer is yes, though it might be good practice to allow maybe 5 minutes in-between for the Crafty to cool a little. If it does overheat, it will shut itself down and not turn on until it's cooled. We try to avoid that!
Well, that's twice, so I'm going to correct you. Maybe it's a language thing, but "smoking" would be combustion, and you can see how we feel about that! We call it vaping or vaporizing.
Too many variables and preferences for there to be an ideal temperature. Even one person's temp. preferences will vary. This is part of the learning. To begin, the defaults are pretty good!
Again, lots of variables, but 15 to 20 is not uncommon. High temp.= fewer (though stronger) hits, or lower temp and you can have a session last much longer. Dealer's choice!
UniqueCrafty
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@vapviking Thanks for your fast reply and yes we are all consenting adults
What about the battery charge, vape till the battery die or charge it up before ?
btw, im from Germany i will try my best english
What about the battery charge, vape till the battery die or charge it up before ?
btw, im from Germany i will try my best english
tdriver
Well-Known Member
from Greece to Germany and back took 10 days.
biohacker
HREAM
Use max temp (210c) and take huge hits and hold them for as long as you can. Enjoy fucking combustion
JayDay
Newbs
@vapviking Thanks for your fast reply and yes we are all consenting adults
What about the battery charge, vape till the battery die or charge it up before ?
btw, im from Germany i will try my best english
A full charge should accomodate 3 loads. I also do back to backs with the Crafty.
I always charge my crafty after 2 loads from a full battery. Depleting might weaken your battery so dont let your battery die.
Vapinmofo
Well-Known Member
OK first of all an "almost" full oven will not work as well as a full oven or half oven with a "liquid" pad.
it takes a little practice to get it just right but I grind pretty fine a pinky tip size bud and pack it into the oven. You do not want to use too much or pack it too hard because this will reduce the flow of vapor.
MAX temp? I do not agree I find that too hot and irritating to the lung. Personally I use 374°F and a 15 degree boost which I use rarely. I heat the bowl and start hitting the crafty. hit it hard try to get the light to change from green to red. it will take one or two HITS to get it going. The Flavor will be best at this point as well it should have an almost menthol/pinesol sort of flavor thats the terpines. keep hitting it. as you hit it you are moving hot air into the oven this releases the vapor and if you continue to hit it it will continue to produce vapor.
Some people insist that a good hit deserves a COUGH. the act of coughing can give you a rush. so once you have had 5-8-10 good solid hits you can then hit the BOOST this will heat the oven up and the higher temp terpines will be released.
IMHO higher temps may produce a better high. or MAYBE NOT! Depends on you.
I may not be a good example. I toss ABV. I do not like HIGH TEMPS because the Crafty is not the best at cooling the vapor so it can be hot enough to irritate my lungs and make me cough. So I rarely go over 375F.
Like I said hit it hard and continue untill you get at least 5 hits bit as many as 10...
After a while vapor will no longer be produced at 375. Turn it up to get more BUT be prepared for crappier tasting vapor at this point.
Have fun. do not give up HIT IT HARD!!
biohacker
HREAM
That's you, he's coming from combustion, what's hot and irritating to you may be a walk in the park to him and furthermore using a simple piece of silicone and bong make it a non-issue - gigantic thick white bong hit toke. Hold that shit in for 10-15 seconds..... soooo smooth! EFFECTS!
Once again, that's you and not reflective whatsoever on the Crafty not being the "best at cooling the vapor", because in fact - it's the complete opposite, the Crafty is remarkable at cooling the vapour, this is why it has an actual dedicated proprietary Cooling Unit and it works great as has been reported by members quite frequently. It's a definite pro of this vape and the Mighty. What other portable vape do you think cools the vapour better than the Crafty?
vapviking
Old & In the Way
The Mighty, but only by a little bit.
These cool so well that they double as reclaim makers.
People look for ways to mitigate the cooling/condensating by replacing the cooling unit with muzzmods, etc.
vapviking
Old & In the Way
My experience;
I had seen, in S&B's FAQ on website, that batteries for a Crafty would be $50 US (some months ago). At that time, I sent a Crafty in for repair and got a call that battery was spent (too many charge cycles, I've posted about this before). The bill would be $70 US, I was told. After aggravation and discussion, I authorized a charge for battery replacement, $70. What came back was a new, boxed piece, and I had been charged $50. I dunno. I think that with a $20 discount they were attempting to smooth over my frustration, work with me, or whatever. I was happy enough to have a good working piece back! Good working for 2 months, then that one went bad and I was finally allowed to 'upgrade' to a Mighty. I think that was $80, but my recall may not be exact, a bit of a long road. (EDIT; correction, the cost was $60, listed on Invoice as 'Warranty Replacement")
The FAQ area was edited at some point now says battery for Crafty would be $70 US (and $90 for the Mighty's 2). It's possible that they realized that the site had not yet been updated to the new price and seeing that, charged me the original price.
My lingering question, that I haven't posed to S&B yet, is about the term of my warranty. After 3 Crafty's (in 8 month's time) now I have this Mighty, acquired on an 'upgrade/warranty' deal. Did my Mighty warranty begin a new 2 year period, or am I on the original clock form first Crafty purchase in Feb. '15? I have a funny feeling I'm going to need it!
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