Crafty/Crafty+ by Storz & Bickel

UnshavenFish

Well-Known Member
I'm sorry to be a broken record here but my Crafty comes today (feel like a kid on Christmas) and I want to make sure I do it right. Seems like people say use a screen rather than the liquid pad for small loads, does it matter which extra screen? Then just trim the screen so it doesn't scratch the oven and press it firmly down on the bud, correct?

To be honest whichever way you do it you should get good results :tup:

First I would just load however much you want then tamp it down with the orange poker tool, see how that works before cutting any screens.

If you find the load doesn't stay put then try a screen,any screen will do, and yes either cut it smaller or as @h3rbalist said cut from the edge to the middle (making almost like a pacman shape but mouth closed if that makes sense :rolleyes:) then it can be pushed to make the diameter smaller.

The good news is the crafty is very noob friendly :clap: compared to some other vapes that need to be used a certain way to get good results.
 

Divorced Dad

New Member
Hi, ive been reading this thread for a long time and is what made me get my crafty. But i have a question, i only have 6 hours on it and last night it was in the middle of charging and just stopped. I plugged it in again the lights flashed red green and blue. Idk what to do, it will still heat up, but it wont charge now. Should i drain the battery then try to charge it? I hope my crafty isnt broken after 6 hours:cry:

Update: I let the battery run out and sit for a little. I plugged it back in and it started charging again, so i am okay now:tup:
 
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So I just upgraded to the crafty and am enjoying it so far. I was wondering if every crafty overheats when on the maximum temperature. Mine says that the battery is too hot and to let the unit cool down. But I haven't gotten much more than a minute or two on the high setting before it starts saying that. Any help is appreciated.
 
joeblowssmoke,

BillClinton

New Member
To be honest whichever way you do it you should get good results :tup:

First I would just load however much you want then tamp it down with the orange poker tool, see how that works before cutting any screens.

If you find the load doesn't stay put then try a screen,any screen will do, and yes either cut it smaller or as @h3rbalist said cut from the edge to the middle (making almost like a pacman shape but mouth closed if that makes sense :rolleyes:) then it can be pushed to make the diameter smaller.

The good news is the crafty is very noob friendly :clap: compared to some other vapes that need to be used a certain way to get good results.
Thanks a lot! It just came :) :) :)
Downloaded the app and put in my serial #, do I need to do anything else to register it for the warranty?
 

alecsys

New Member
Hi, ive been reading this thread for a long time and is what made me get my crafty. But i have a question, i only have 6 hours on it and last night it was in the middle of charging and just stopped. I plugged it in again the lights flashed red green and blue. Idk what to do, it will still heat up, but it wont charge now. Should i drain the battery then try to charge it? I hope my crafty isnt broken after 6 hours:cry:

try charging another 5V device (e.g. cellphone) with the supplied cable and wallwart. if it will charge your phone, you´ll know it is not the usb cable or the power adaptor. it also could be a defectice usb port on the crafty itself.
 
alecsys,

grokit

well-worn member
So I just upgraded to the crafty and am enjoying it so far. I was wondering if every crafty overheats when on the maximum temperature. Mine says that the battery is too hot and to let the unit cool down. But I haven't gotten much more than a minute or two on the high setting before it starts saying that. Any help is appreciated.
What firmware version are you running?
 
grokit,

Divorced Dad

New Member
Save your proof of purchase, the box, and packing material.
What happens if i threw my box away because i cant keep the box. I have hide my vape from my mom:ninja: Oh and i dont have a proof of purchase because my local smoke shop doesnt give reciepts. Will i be able to send it in if it ever breaks?
 
Divorced Dad,

t-dub

Vapor Sloth
I have hide my vape from my mom:ninja:
First of all, please don't talk about hiding shit from your parents it breaks this rule:
The FC Forum Rules said:
This forum is for mature adults only. We don’t want to hear about you needing to hide things from your parents.
Second, you will have to hope S&B still gives you warranty service without proof of purchase. It seems they might but you never know . . .

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The box you can get by without, here is what they say about it on their website:

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http://www.storz-bickel.com/shop_us/en/repair-info/
 
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Stinky

Well-Known Member
What happens if i threw my box away because i cant keep the box. I have hide my vape from my mom:ninja: Oh and i dont have a proof of purchase because my local smoke shop doesnt give reciepts. Will i be able to send it in if it ever breaks?

Is it legal for a retail shop not to provide a tax receipt?
 

wolf1027

Well-Known Member
I just talked to a repair man for S&B. They told me that the overheating popup on the app is a normal function of the crafty and nothing to be concerned about.

I was going to upgrade to Mighty but they wanted 50$ to do it and I am broke after vacation. Gonna stick with crafty. Which is good since I really do love the size. This thing is so tiny.

Very friendly cs at S&b.
 

Vambo1980

Well-Known Member
Hi, ive been reading this thread for a long time and is what made me get my crafty. But i have a question, i only have 6 hours on it and last night it was in the middle of charging and just stopped. I plugged it in again the lights flashed red green and blue. Idk what to do, it will still heat up, but it wont charge now. Should i drain the battery then try to charge it? I hope my crafty isnt broken after 6 hours:cry:

Update: I let the battery run out and sit for a little. I plugged it back in and it started charging again, so i am okay now:tup:

If you have been using the unit for a couple of bowls, or a long single bowl the safety feature will not let the crafty begin charging if the temperature of the battery is above a certain level, the more you use the crafty the higher the battery temp, especially when the battery is nearly flat anyway the battery temp will rise more so.

Apart from other non-resetting final safety features like the thermal fuse, final operation of the crafty is ruled by the resistance of the thermistor attached to the Panasonic NCR18650PF 2700mah battery inside; the potentially dangerous part of the unit. This thermistor will be linked to the control software with a warning trigger and/or high limit trigger assigned to a specific resistance relative to temperature, with high limit triggers shutting down the unit, and also preventing the unit from recharging.

I have kind-of tested this, if I separate the thermistor from the cell completely so its not affected by any heat at all I could run the crafty continuously full to flat and still plug in the charger and it will begin charging straight away.

I've said this previously, but the crafty treats it battery (temperature )like a baby. It's a bit too protective. I love that they are trying to protect us with these features but I think they could perhaps loosen up the temp limits. I mean millions of people (myself included) didn't mind putting the original Pax to their face to vape and I never heard of one exploding.. the pax used a unprotected Panasonic ( NCR18650PF 2900mah )cell right next to the heater/air path without a thermistor strapped to it & shutting down every session and a half... I know it did have a temp lock out integrated to pcb though I think.
 
What firmware version are you running?

2.07. I believe this is the newest update. It will keep letting me vape, but a little notification pops up in the app and tells me the battery temp is too high. I don't want to ruin it so I just let it cool down. I was using the highest temp to finish off a bowl and that's when it popped up. I just wouldve thought it could be used more than that.
 
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Stinky

Well-Known Member
I just talked to a repair man for S&B. They told me that the overheating popup on the app is a normal function of the crafty and nothing to be concerned about.

I was going to upgrade to Mighty but they wanted 50$ to do it and I am broke after vacation. Gonna stick with crafty. Which is good since I really do love the size. This thing is so tiny.

Very friendly cs at S&b.
Which S&B location did you contact? Most people have said they paid $30US or $30EU.
 
Stinky,

BillClinton

New Member
Did you change the temp at all or is it the same low temp? Just curious.

Started at 338, boosted to 365, took a few hits as it cooled.

This hasn't been my experience. It's better if I try to cool the chamber by taking a couple draws after powering it down but I still find reheating a chamber not very enjoyable.

I just pack less if I want less and always finish the bowl.

Maybe it is because this is my first time vaping so I'm not extremely picky, but it really did taste fresh the second time around.
 

BioSector

Well-Known Member
Started at 338, boosted to 365, took a few hits as it cooled.



Maybe it is because this is my first time vaping so I'm not extremely picky, but it really did taste fresh the second time around.

Nice. I may not have let it cool enough. Greatest thing about these 2 vapes is that it seems there is no wrong way to enjoy them. :)

Sorry, didn't meant to insinuate your experience wasn't valid. :)
 

Saman65

Well-Known Member
I'm considering buying a second( a larger) bubbler for my crafty. Right now, fc cake is my only piece of glass. and I'm exteremly happy with the combination of crafty and fc-cake. I don't even know if I should get another one or not.
I'm not a collector and therfore really picky on spending money on glasswares. Your's thoughts would be really appreciated.
I'm undecided between FC-1000 and Mothership straight fab? which one whould I pick and why?
Do I get better reults with a larger glass?
 
Saman65,

Ricchini

Well-Known Member
Fire up your Craftys in the name of liberty!

Been hitting mine through water finally, it definitely tames the vapor.

Sometimes hitting straight from the cooling unit gets you a bit more intoxicated, but the water is worth the tradeoff.

I'm hitting my Crafty driving home at 1:00 AM and I've almost puked out of the car because I was vapor choking. That never happens with the waterpipe, even when I've packed full chamber plus oil.



If you are looking for a real cheap easy way to connect your Crafty to a waterpipe:

Sandpaper, a drillbit, and a wine cork. You figure the rest out.
 
I got my crafty a few days back and so far I'm really disappointed. I've had the original davinci and the solo before this. A .05 bowl in the solo seems much better than a full bowl in the crafty. Can any other solo users relate to this?
 

h3rbalist

I used to do drugs. I still do, but I used to, too
I got my crafty a few days back and so far I'm really disappointed. I've had the original davinci and the solo before this. A .05 bowl in the solo seems much better than a full bowl in the crafty. Can any other solo users relate to this?
Can you elaborate on 'better'?

It was the complete opposite experience for me.

Replaced my Solo (which was a replacement of my orginal da vinci) with a Crafty and never looked back.

The Solo was more of a session vape though. Because it eeks the vapor out in small hits (with the stock stem) a smaller amount would last longer in my Solo than slightly more in my Crafty bowl.

But I think my Crafty is 'better'.
 

Stinky

Well-Known Member
Can you elaborate on 'better'?

It was the complete opposite experience for me.

Replaced my Solo (which was a replacement of my orginal da vinci) with a Crafty and never looked back.

The Solo was more of a session vape though. Because it eeks the vapor out in small hits (with the stock stem) a smaller amount would last longer in my Solo than slightly more in my Crafty bowl.

But I think my Crafty is 'better'.

I replaced my solo with a Mighty and found the Mighty to be a huge improvement.
 
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