Locate someone with a iOS based device. BT on the Android OS has been half arsed for years.
Good Luck!
Crafty/Crafty+ by Storz & Bickel
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Locate someone with a iOS based device. BT on the Android OS has been half arsed for years.
Good Luck!
Mangos
Well-Known Member
Got my Crafty from a store called Vapefiend. Hope you get your crafty back soon dude, I will continue to stare at mine blowing kisses and good vibrations to it to avoid any future malfunctions.
elmomuzz
That just happened...
Don't forget there is also the vapelog app for osx. That is what I use to control my crafty.
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/the-crafty-by-storz-bickel.15984/page-110#post-715614
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/the-crafty-by-storz-bickel.15984/page-110#post-715614
mariocaruana
Member
Hey guys, so I bought a Mighty like 2 weeks ago, my serial number was very close to 5000. 49xx. Would it make sense that they are in order of the units produced/sold?
I remember reading someone saying that the crafty has more issues, then someone else replying that they've sold more Craftys, which is probably the case but how about someone who's recently bought their Crafty share the first 2 digits of their unit and where it was bought from. My Mighty was bought from SnB Germany for example. Maybe we could get an idea of how many units have been sold and how much more popular the Crafty is.
I remember reading someone saying that the crafty has more issues, then someone else replying that they've sold more Craftys, which is probably the case but how about someone who's recently bought their Crafty share the first 2 digits of their unit and where it was bought from. My Mighty was bought from SnB Germany for example. Maybe we could get an idea of how many units have been sold and how much more popular the Crafty is.
Pjake
It's all in the reflexes.
Hey man. I own both the crafty and the plenty so I wanted to share my opinion on the subject again. The plenty will rip equally as huge clouds as the crafty with even less draw resistance. However, be prepared to use a bit more material. If you are fully packing your crafty without liquid pad you will be able to use a comparable amount in the plenty with the liquid pad and get good rips. Personally I usually only pack 1/3 chamber in my crafty then put the liquid pad in. I've found that when I put that small amount of material in the plenty, the pulls are a bit more wispy. This is just my experience. To get more info definetly check the plenty thread. Happy vaping!
darkrom
Great Scott!
Huh? The problem lies 100% with S&B on this one. All other BT devices work fine on 5.0+ and the crafty works on 4.4.4.
BT is just fine on android, when S&B update their app to function properly.
Roth
Pining for the Mountains
Welcome to the Crafty Toilet Club! It's a small group so far (just you and myself), but we're warriors!
I didn't have a dehydrator with me when mine took the plunge, but leaving it in a bag of rice for 8 hours did the trick.
My Crafty fell in around the 3-4 hour mark, I believe, and still going strong (~30 hours right now).
darkrom
Great Scott!
Maybe if we raise enough cash he (or anyone really) would be willing to make a windows app? I'd say linux, but I don't think enough people would be interested out of such a small market size.
DoctorSleep
New Member
Im considering buying Crafty as my first vapo since its getting terrific reviews everywhere. You produced over 120 pages of posts about it and I read only couple of those but have the impression there are problems occuring, like overheating. Long story short: is it worth its high price? I don't want a device that will have to be send back to the manufacturers after a month or two of using...
Lemon Curry?
Have Bud, Will Travel
I don't have my own crafty yet, but I've used a friend's unit several times. The short answer - this is, hands down, the best performing portable relative to it's size. S&B really outdid themselves.
Sinclue
OK disagree with me, I can't force you to be right
Remember the caveat that satisfied people mostly don't feel the need to post. So these threads are often weighted towards folks having problems seeking assistance or wanting to vent. They've probably sold hundreds of units so only a small percentage are represented here.
I've got 51+ hours on mine, so far it works fine and I'm certainly enjoying it (as we speak as it were). The company has an excellent reputation and like with all new things there are bound to be some kinks to work out. Even vapes that have been in production for a long time have problems...that's what warranties are for.
Can anybody guarantee your unit won't have problems? Of course not. But I'd say it probably not likely, and if it does they will be fixed.
vapeppau
Well-Known Member
Man you surely nailed what I was just thinking! When people got their craftys, there was a lot of enthusiastic responses, but then they just kind of petered out....I know I did!
Anyway I'm still happy with my crafty as I'm sure those people who don't post as often here too
El Barto
Well-Known Member
It's common for new products and technology to have some bugs and problems. If sending your Crafty in is a concern for you, you might want to consider waiting or buying a more time-tested vape. For me, it was very well worth the price. Despite some minor kinks, I love this thing.
It would be my suggestion to take a moment and educate yourself over at the XDA forums.
I've been developing ROM's for years and the issues with BT are well documented. Just because it works for the select few devices you own does not mean it's working 'fine', as you put it.
In the end if it's such an issue, write the code.
Best Regards
darkrom
Great Scott!
Yeah which Roms and devices do you support? I've been over at XDA for years. I don't know of major BT issues on anything since they changed the BT stack in the HTC thunderbolt era. Basically only with devices so old they don't have BLE and are of no use to a crafty owner anyway.
lwien
Well-Known Member
While I totally agree that what you said above is true in general population, I don't think that holds true here at FC with product that hasn't yet matured in the marketplace. Members here seem to be just as active and passionate about their vaporizers that work well as those that don't work well (just reading this thread makes that a bit obvious, eh?). What you said though, I believe does come into play here after a vaporizer has been on the market for a few years.
I think it holds very true for the Crafty and the Mighty. Reading this thread makes a person believe that there is a very high failure rate with the Crafty. Your poll you started did not reflect this failure rate to be as high as it appears in this thread last time I checked, I also don't see a poll anywhere for how many people have over 40hrs of use on their Crafty. For ever person that had a problem there have been multiple posts by OP and those discussing it, even on FC.
So while S&B might be new to the portable game it is the only flower vape I have in circulation and for me the only one I have that Hits so smooth, tasty, and Stoney with so little effort to set up and use. So where exactly do they need to catch up in this portable game? I have seen what people report in this thread of how they use and charge their Crafty, they obviously have never read up on longevity of battery health. Cracked, broken cooling chamber attachments problems are going to happen in this vape until that gets strengthened, I have dropped or banged my Mighty many times in the 30-40hrs of use it has seen, when I break it I guess that will be S&Bs fault since they are so new to this portable game.
mitchgo61
I go where the thrills are
There is literally no way to accurately glean the failure rate from an FC thread. As we say in statistics, the sample size is at once unknown and likely way too small. None of us can extrapolate larger trends from our personal experience. I just ate a big meal...but that doesn't eliminate world hunger.
That said @lwien makes a good point...only the passage of time will tell the story. For 45 days it was all sunshine and rainbows, and then Crafty failures became much more prevalent. Same as it ever was...every first gen portable starts looking ugly 60-plus days in, at least to those of us glued to FC threads.
As for SB's foray into portables, I think the only criticism arose ftom reports of poor customer service and lack of communication. And since we heard this from like three users, again, sample size, too small...no way to know if it's indicative of a more systemic service problem. Back to @lwien's point...in a year we will have a much clearer picture of SB's portable device stability and service.
darkrom
Great Scott!
Let me stir the pot a bit just for fun. Is there a way to track how many people have downloaded the android and IOS app? I'd wager that is VERY close to the total number of crafty's sold. I don't think more than a handful, if any, would buy the crafty not use the app.
The mighty is anyone's guess as there are no app download statistics to accompany it.
So in a year or so we can know if S&B can make a legitimate portable vape? If this was a new company that couldn't ride out a few bumps that would be different, this is one of the oldest vape companies so I personally won't worry to much with a 2 year warranty, pretty sure S&B will still be here and so will the Mighty and Crafty. If not it won't be the lonely, I have a bunch of vapes from companies that couldn't ride out the bumps.
My Mighty has seen more hours of use then any other portable vape I own except for the Cera with an oil cart which I have owned for two years instead of 2 months. My Solo is over a year old and has been used for less then 10 hours with a multitude of different stems. The Pax I got I gave away after 5 bowls, even my tried and true Desktops no longer come out of their storage now that the Mighty is here. I have one desk top I love from a great company that has been traveling or at the shop getting worked on more then I have had it my possession, still the best vape I have ever used when it is working, they answer all my questions, calls, emails, sweet talk me all day long but it still doesn't make the vape work for more then 3 days and this vape has been available for well over a year.
I am very happy with my purchase. Only a few post here have people who have stated otherwise, that means something in my statistics of real world info. Just like if someone told me I just ate a big meal at that restaurant and it was the worst experience and food of my life, most likely I won't eat there unless I here two to three people say different.
I downloaded it twice, I don't own the Crafty. Lol
My Mighty has seen more hours of use then any other portable vape I own except for the Cera with an oil cart which I have owned for two years instead of 2 months. My Solo is over a year old and has been used for less then 10 hours with a multitude of different stems. The Pax I got I gave away after 5 bowls, even my tried and true Desktops no longer come out of their storage now that the Mighty is here. I have one desk top I love from a great company that has been traveling or at the shop getting worked on more then I have had it my possession, still the best vape I have ever used when it is working, they answer all my questions, calls, emails, sweet talk me all day long but it still doesn't make the vape work for more then 3 days and this vape has been available for well over a year.
I am very happy with my purchase. Only a few post here have people who have stated otherwise, that means something in my statistics of real world info. Just like if someone told me I just ate a big meal at that restaurant and it was the worst experience and food of my life, most likely I won't eat there unless I here two to three people say different.
I downloaded it twice, I don't own the Crafty. Lol
DoubleVanos
Well-Known Member
As a long time S&B fan and customer, I can confidently say that their products are built to last. Their craftsmanship and engineering are second to none. I've owned the Cano for 3 years, and the gf and I have used it heavily every single day. The device still performs as new. In this day and age of dollar stores and cheap Chinese copies and manufacturing, it's refeshing to buy products with a quality and engineering first mentality. If you have the cash to spend on the crafty... I say go for it.
They've probably sold hundreds of units so only a small percentage are represented here.
I'm willing to bet this number is easily in the thousands.
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darkrom
Great Scott!
Only one should count (per account I believe). But you are right people can download it without owning it, but we could use the total number of downloads as a theoretical maximum number of craftys sold. I'm sure theres a few out there who use no app with it, but I doubt they will make up a statistical portion of crafty owners.
mitchgo61
I go where the thrills are
No one said SB would be out of business. The speculation was "if they don't have a support staff dedicated to servicing their portables they may have a tough time competing in the portable space." Will SB be around in two years? I would assume so. Will the Crafty have a failure rate of x percent in a year? We don't know yet. That was the point. All we know is there are failures and the failure rate therefore is not zero. Other than that, we need time and data.
If you want to extrapolate the entire universe from your experience, feel free, but it's still meaningless in terms of an accurate picture of what other users are seeing. Or, to approach it from the other side...if/when your Crafty fails, will you assume most of the others have failed too?
Apple, Google, and S&B know. I don't know how any of us in the public would know the answer to this.
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Vapoz
Well-Known Member
I'm also on XDA and it doesn't work on a few select devices on different ROMs. The app uses Android 4.3 or newer and you must use BT 4 so even if you own a iPhone with BT 3.0 you won't be able to connect. My iPad 2 can't connect to the Crafty while on my Nexus 7 it works with CM11 (4.4) and stock 5.0.2.
I've shown my Crafty to some friends and three already have bought Crafty's! On counting the app downloads, the Play Store says it has 1000~5000 downloads.
vaporlee
Well-Known Member
I am not saying Crafty is a bad vape, It does gives me good fresh taste for first 2~3 tokes, and it gives me very good high, but rest of sessions after few tokes, I get a lot of plastic taste, when I use boost temperature of 385 F to finish the bowl I get really harsh and unpleasant taste. I get better taste from Indica's (Conduction vaporizer) highest heat setting.
I think the crafty is definitely overpriced!
Damn little expensive thing,, that only last 3 sessions(25~30 mins), take almost 2 minute to reach my desired temperature, take 2hrs and 20min to fully charge from drain, no user replaceable battery, and mostly importantly, its just made of plastic..
I don't know, maybe my crafty is faulty.. But at this point I prefer the experience from Daisy and Indica..
I think the crafty is definitely overpriced!
Damn little expensive thing,, that only last 3 sessions(25~30 mins), take almost 2 minute to reach my desired temperature, take 2hrs and 20min to fully charge from drain, no user replaceable battery, and mostly importantly, its just made of plastic..
I don't know, maybe my crafty is faulty.. But at this point I prefer the experience from Daisy and Indica..