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Camouflet Convector XL
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Thanks for this. I have the right size. This is one of those incredibly rare user errors on my part.
Sorry, Camouflet.I'll be happy to use the XL exclusively for bong rips once my Ceramo arrives.
SlickHenry
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Have a look at post #167 above. Wondering if you have the same issue as this user with the stem? Maybe worth getting in contact with Camouflet.Thanks for this. I have the right size. This is one of those incredibly rare user errors on my part.
I'll be happy to use the XL exclusively for bong rips once my Ceramo arrives.
zeebudz
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"Super Capacitor can be heated with any heat source, for optimal performance, we recommend using the Super Capacitor paired with the Inductor." https://camouflet.com/products/super-capacitor
I get why they want to push the Inductor, but seeing how widespread the Wand is they should mention if it's compatible (I assume it is.)
Testersinc
Active Member
100% I'm waiting for there response before pulling trigger to pre order super capacitor. Easy buy for me if compatible with wand. Wand is my only heatsource atm. Sorry guys i dont have inductor yet=)
zeebudz
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Currently it's torch only for me for the XL.
EDIT: OK, I couldn't resist, I'm in for the Super Capacitor
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This company has put a spell on me!! I have ordered 3 XL's and just ordered the ceramic unit on the pre-sale. I will probably have to get the super capacitor cap as well. These people are moving fast with design and manufacturing. I love the XL used natively and this new one should be even better. I am using the Wand and the new ceramic unit should make it easier. Just hope the heat up time doesn't go up too much. I would love to have an Inductor but it just does not fit my personal use cases.
What would be the best model for microdosers? The OG or the XL?
VAS is acting up
Good question. I have the OG Titanium and 2 XL's. The XL can thoroughly kill a full chamber very quickly and very evenly and thoroughly. I have not tried it with a partially filled chamber. The OG is much smaller and more tricky to get right. It can be very effective as a micro doser.
I have been thinking Camouflet might come out with a vape in between the OG and XL relative to size. But, if they came up with a ceramic stem for the OG it would make it easier to use with a variety of induction heaters. I started using it in a Koil Boi IH and it worked in 10 seconds but I realized I was defeating the purpose of the convection design. I have a VHB IH with adjustable chamber and I can raise it up to the point where only the heater plates are exposed to the coil.
I use the Wand to heat the XL's but have not used it for the OG as I prefer the VHB with the adjustable chamber height.
I just jumped in on the new ceramic XL and the new super capacitor cap.
Please update us when you make your decision? I am a big fan of Camouflet!! The support has been super and I am very impressed with their engineering and design capabilities! I am blown away by how fast they are moving. These intro prices are unreal deals when you consider other highly rated devices run $ 300-$450 and have a lot that can go wrong. Not much to go wrong with Camouflet products.
TigoleBitties
Big and Bouncy
If I had to guess, I would hope that the heat up time for the CeramoXL should be very similar to that of the ConvectorXL with the Wand and the regular titanium XL cap. If anything, the time to heat could possibly be shorter on the CeramoXL because the Wand won't heat the ceramic bowl at all so all the energy will have to flow into the metal cap. The nearby ceramic acts as an insulator and shouldn't conduct much heat away from the cap in the way that the titaniumXL bowl does.
Can you share your Wand timings for the regular ConvectorXL (CXL)? I'm thinking it's around 14 flashes from cold to get vapor? The OG Convector I have takes around 12-13 flashes from cold.
I do 12 flashes on the tip and then 2 more all the way at 400 degrees.
Cacahuates
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Would it be worth getting the ceramo xl if I'm going to primarily use it with a torch? Seems like a great deal and I think an inductor is in my future.
TigoleBitties
Big and Bouncy
I would think so. They claim it can be used with pretty much any heater and it ships with a torch in the Bambox it comes in if I'm not mistaken. Sounds like a sign to me
.Although if you're planning to get an Inductor soon, they're bundling them both now for $379.
Inductor - Limited Time Offer - Inductor + Ceramo XL Bundle
The Inductor is Camouflet's unique and incredibly powerful desktop induction heater for battery-free devices and accessories. Built around a tabletop power unit that incorporates a removable rolling tray, adjustment dial, and voltage meter display. A modular head is used to heat your device and...
coolbreeze
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I don't see why not. the OG XL works well with a torch, and if you're going convection-heavy you can point directly down onto the matrix and isolate the heat to the top of the heater. This should work even better.
Cacahuates
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Trigger pulled! Now more waiting
coolbreeze
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Same! If worse come to worst, I'm sure a Firefox or equal will have no trouble.Trigger pulled! Now more waiting
Oden
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Do you use your CLX with an induction device, or only with a torch?
I know that the Wand will be my option for induction heating, but I am really lost in choosing an efficient torch suitable for the CLX.
Do you have any torch models to recommend please?
SlickHenry
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I mainly use the Wand, which works well.
It comes with a single flame torch, which is fine. For more heat and slightly faster heat up times you could look at some duel flame torches like the Palio Pistola, or wider single flames like the Blazer Firefox, Stingray, Jobon Bullet, Zoocura ice blue.
There is a useful torch thread HERE that I used to choose the Bullet.
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coolbreeze
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Mostly torch but sometimes the Inductor. Large Eagle torches are also great with it, they're a little less powerful than the firefox but are also great for bricks, dynavaps, etc. They (or something just like them) are sold in Europe by another common name, but I can't think of what it is atm. But I think the Blazer Firefox would be slightly easier to heat it quickly. It's also a great torch for smaller glass vapes and so forth.
Durbandream
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I heated my CXL with a torch for a while but I stopped after getting a wand, it works a lot better in my experience. A torch is still great though, you'll just want something moderately powerful for best results.
Your thoughts make good sense to me. It will be awhile before we get the new units but I will post once I get a little experience. I use mine outside on a screened in porch. I have noticed with very cold outside temps in January and if I leave the XL outside that I need 1-2 seconds longer over the 14 secs most Wand users have found to work well.
I was in a hurry to order the new cap which Camouflet confirmed has 4 times the mass of the standard XL cap. I read the description after I placed the order and better understood the differences. I am very interested to test these new components but have to be patient.
TigoleBitties
Big and Bouncy
That's great! 14 flashes seems to be the average number I'm hearing to heat up the Convector from cold. This new generation of larger-than-dynavap TEDs, specifically the Tornado and the Convector are really impressing me with their evolution in efficiency. I had a Dani V3Ti that needed about 1min with the Wand to get some back-to-back hits and now this new generation is producing vapor with the Wand in as low as 14 secs!
Also with Camouflet introducing the stainless Super Capacitor cap, they are allowing for a vaping style where you don't need to have a speedy heat-up and cool-down workflow that leverages titanium's strengths if you don't want that. The Tornado can do a OHE of a full bowl in about 21sec with the Wand. I'm curious to see if this timing will hold true for the heavier stainless cap.
I love how you pulled the trigger first and then asked questions later
. Camouflet's reputation is growing and now when they introduce a new product there's a feeding frenzy! 
Oden
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Thank you for sharing, it is much appreciated
Thank you very much! As always, your advice on this forum is a great help to me and, more broadly, to the community.
I ordered a Blazer Firefox thanks to your advice and SlickHenry's.
It’s going to be fun switching from induction heating to butane heating to play around with this Ceramo XL.
Testersinc
Active Member
fun times with cxl