Camouflet Convector XL

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RedZep

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Blown said:
How fragile is the ceramo CL expected to be. If it fell from desk high onto a tile floor would it break?
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My ZX and ZX bowl are made from Zirc, and it seems incredibly sturdy. Feels entirely different to everyday ceramics like coffee mugs etc. I would be confident dropping my ZX bowl onto a wooden floor to he honest. The wood would probably be worse off.

Of course it won't be as sturdy as Ti. However ease of breaking shouldn't be a big concern imo.
 
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I have been using the Convector XL a lot these few days and have been experimenting. By using a coarser grind and filling three quarters full with no tamp I get, to my tastes, a perfect draw natively through the stem.

Have also been pushing it a bit with 14 pulses with the wand on the very tip of the cap (halfway into the wand is about right) and then 2 pulses with it inserted fully. Pause a few seconds before hitting for huge clouds. Am yet to get OHE natively but can completely vape the bowl with one or two more aggressive reheat of 8 pulses. With a torch I just heat till the tip glows (being sure to only heat the very tip; you can also come at the cap from the top moving the flame over the holes at a slight angle) then pause and hit. I think the draw speed also effects the vapor production. I get noticeably bigger hits if I slow my draw down.

This vape is fast becoming a favorite that I regularly reach for. The flavor and vapor production are phenomenal. With the super capacitor having 4 times the thermal capacity I am pretty confident one heat up would kill the bowl or allow you to sit and sip for longer between reheats.
 
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SlickHenry said:
I have been using the Convector XL a lot these few days and have been experimenting. By using a coarser grind and filling three quarters full with no tamp I get, to my tastes, a perfect draw natively through the stem.

Have also been pushing it a bit with 14 pulses with the wand on the very tip of the cap (halfway into the wand is about right) and then 2 pulses with it inserted fully. Pause a few seconds before hitting for huge clouds. Am yet to get OHE natively but can completely vape the bowl with one or two more aggressive reheat of 8 pulses. With a torch I just heat till the tip glows (being sure to only heat the very tip; you can also come at the cap from the top moving the flame over the holes at a slight angle) then pause and hit. I think the draw speed also effects the vapor production. I get noticeably bigger hits if I slow my draw down.

This vape is fast becoming a favorite that I regularly reach for. The flavor and vapor production are phenomenal. With the super capacitor having 4 times the thermal capacity I am pretty confident one heat up would kill the bowl or allow you to sit and sip for longer between reheats.
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Thanks for the excellent tips and insights. I agree so much with your opinion and findings on the XL. I am also using the Wand so the tips are helpful to me. I had been wondering what Camouflet would do next and as usual they were way ahead of me. I love the simplicity of the designs. Not much to go wrong.
 
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Eloh said:
Also pre-ordered the Ceramo XL today.... can't wait to try it :)

What would be potential mouthpieces, that could fit this?
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Cap so far but I'm really tempted. There is no separate cooling tube and also no view looking inside the stem. Is it basically just like the regular CXL stem but just a different material?
 
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zeebudz said:
Cap so far but I'm really tempted. There is no separate cooling tube and also no view looking inside the stem. Is it basically just like the regular CXL stem but just a different material?
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That's what it sounds like. It may indeed cool sufficientlyl. It's also unclear but the condensers (and DV ones) may still fit it if the bore is consistent the length of the stem.
 
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zeebudz said:
Cap so far but I'm really tempted. There is no separate cooling tube and also no view looking inside the stem. Is it basically just like the regular CXL stem but just a different material?
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Looks like it, I'm just being optimistic with this tbh, but I'm positive there will be a relatively easy way to mod this if necessary. We'll see.

Are there any glass or even zro2 mouthpieces that are dv compatible? I guess not, but maybe I'm wrong?
 
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coolbreeze said:
That's what it sounds like. It may indeed cool sufficientlyl. It's also unclear but the condensers (and DV ones) may still fit it if the bore is consistent the length of the stem.
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I'll bet it all that it won't cool the super capacitor sufficiently. I think it will cool the standard XL cap well depending most use cases.

A zirc MP with zirc cooling spiral would be nice
 
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Looks like it, I'm just being optimistic with this tbh, but I'm positive there will be a relatively easy way to mod this if necessary. We'll see.

Are there any glass or even zro2 mouthpieces that are dv compatible? I guess not, but maybe I'm wrong?
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I'd love to find any ceramic 8mm mouthpiece, doesn't have to be zirconia. Pretty sure I've seen one around before.... as the mouthpiece to a whip I saw somewhere...

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A zirc MP with zirc cooling spiral would be nice
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Yeah, that'd be nice. I think some nice quartz or ruby beads inside the ceramic stem would be good too. As @coolbreeze says, maybe the existing ceramic condensers on the CXL could be used too.
 
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My xl has been stuck in Canadian customs for over a week. Maybe the pre orders will show up first?

Has anyone used the ronxs on this?
 
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UhuM said:
It's a pitty, that it uses 8mm diameter for mouthpieces, else you could use the Dani Fusion mp and helix for cooling.
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But I think it's only the Fusion and Stunner that are 9mm, all the other stemmed vapes are 8mm, creating a much broader ecosphere. There doesn't seem to be any particular advantage to 9mm, so it would be better ideally if those two joined the rest than to create another outlier, imo.
 
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coolbreeze said:
But I think it's only the Fusion and Stunner that are 9mm, all the other stemmed vapes are 8mm, creating a much broader ecosphere. There doesn't seem to be any particular advantage to 9mm, so it would be better ideally if those two joined the rest than to create another outlier, imo.
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That's correct, but I do like the Fusion mp and helix, especially for the price point. It's pure personal preference ;)
 
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So just a thought, and I have said the same on the Ceramo XL thread: The Super Capacitor is still getting to the same temperature as the standard XL cap (vaporization temperature). Due to its larger thermal mass it just holds more heat and cools down slower so requires less reheats per bowl. By this logic it isn't any "hotter" than the standard XL cap. It's the same principle as the VC armored cap. I am not a scientist though! 🤣
 
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Steel28 said:
Do you have one bro??
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I do, yes. For me it's necessary for the Injector (unless I've got it in a wireless coil). I assume it is for the Zooter too. It's great with the Convectors, as well. I don't use it as much with my other vapes because I mostly use a torch, but I think i've seen examples of the Inductor being used with everything. Folks provide timings and voltage levels for various vapes so have a look back and see what you think. The only problems I've had is taming the Thermocore and going too hard on the Lotus and the Dynabox Titanium Heating Component.
 
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Steel28

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coolbreeze said:
I do, yes. For me it's necessary for the Injector (unless I've got it in a wireless coil). I assume it is for the Zooter too. It's great with the Convectors, as well. I don't use it as much with my other vapes because I mostly use a torch, but I think i've seen examples of the Inductor being used with everything. Folks provide timings and voltage levels for various vapes so have a look back and see what you think. The only problems I've had is taming the Thermocore and going too hard on the Lotus and the Dynabox Titanium Heating Component.
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This is super helpful! My only concern is the service in the future as I'm in Canada..
 
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SlickHenry said:
So just a thought, and I have said the same on the Ceramo XL thread: The Super Capacitor is still getting to the same temperature as the standard XL cap (vaporization temperature). Due to its larger thermal mass it just holds more heat and cools down slower so requires less reheats per bowl. By this logic it isn't any "hotter" than the standard XL cap. It's the same principle as the VC armored cap. I am not a scientist though! 🤣
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I expected a higher rate of extraction, and therefore higher vapour density. If those two variables are kept the same, then that would be great. I hope you are right!
 
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