Ascent Vaporizer by DaVinci

[CarolKing]

You get them off Amazon. They are glass pipe screens, we call them glass flowers. I would suggest more than 10. Get a 20 or 30 pkg at least.

Glass Screen Daisy Style Assorted Colors - Pack of 10
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Price:$3.26 & FREE Shipping

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• Handblown Glass Pipe Screen
• 1/4" in length
• Daisy Style
• Keep tobacco from getting into your pipe stem or mouth
• Assorted Colors

 

[Norcalsun]

@Davinci_vaporizer- Maybe you could drill some holes in the glass oil cans that come with the unit, or use it as the base for a spacer that allows more air flow. Doesn't have to be made from the existing oil cans, could design a simple glass insert for the bowl. Something that would distribute heat well.

 

[Amoreena]

Thank you for sharing the link and graphic, CarolKing.

Actually, I was inquiring about the borosilicate glass beads mentioned by Smknbud. I used glass flower filters for awhile with glass pipes so I know they're fragile. It's extremely unlikely a shard would be inhaled, but prefer using a lot (too much, really) of herb to risking it. With one lung lobe gone, I'm over-protective of what's left.

Norcalsun, that's an interesting idea. We already have a 3/32" Dremel drill bit for glass that my husband used to enlarge holes in uptake tubes.

 

[OF]

Please, what "various" sizes do you use? Beads should be less breakable (safer) than glass flowers.

Yes, but with less surface area for the mass and therefore less useful for us.

If you insist on beads, make them as small as possible, sphere's gain volume and therefore mass faster than surface and therefore ability to heat herb and make vapor. Volume is 4/3pi times the radius cubed, surface is 4pi times radius squared. So doubling the diameter gives four times the surface but 8 times the volume.

This is the reason the sun, planets and raindrops are round (smallest surface for the volume). Bowling balls are round for an entirely different reason........ And golf balls, while round, have dimples to fly further (even though they add surface area, the lessen 'wind resistance').

You're much better off, from the numbers side, with more smaller spheres. In the above example four of the smaller spheres would have the same surface but only take up half the room and weigh half as much. Heat recovery is also faster for the same reason. Flowers excel in this respect. If you go with beads, keep 'em small.

OF

 

[Amoreena]

Thank you, OF. I'm reconsidering the flowers; they're a bit sturdier-looking than the ones I bought locally which did not have stems. And there's still Norcalsun's idea about drilling those little jars. Will continue to watch this thread and be thankful I'm in a position to over-consume as needed.

 

[OF]

Thank you, OF. I'm reconsidering the flowers; they're a bit sturdier-looking than the ones I bought locally which did not have stems. And there's still Norcalsun's idea about drilling those little jars. Will continue to watch this thread and be thankful I'm in a position to over-consume as needed.

You're welcome.

Yeah, I know those guys. Not so much a flower as a fried egg if you asked me? I got some somewhere early on, I didn't pay attention to the photo and had lost enough of the 10 original ones I had (through breakage mostly, and I think I tossed some with ABV before I took to just dumping it all out into a tin). That's when I found I used the stem part to pick them up and keep them in place. Like laying on their sides in the bottom with lots of room for ground bud to get between or poking the stem down into the load from the top like a couple of thumbtacks. That last part made closing and opening the door easier to boot.

I quickly ordered more of the originals and tossed the flat ones.

IIRC a couple of guys have drilled holes in their jars with their Dremel (pointed diamond tip cutter). Some have broken the jar trying of course, but those that didn't reported 'sub wonderful' results? It was an effective way to reduce the volume of course, but it forces the herb against the bottom......where there is no heater. The heat is in the walls. Having lots of surface area and being able to spread the mass throughout the load is the key (along with giving it enough time to recover the lost heat from a hit: try a full minute?).

I think it's a well thought out and functional unit, even kind of fun, as shipped. Keep it dry, grind it fine, pack it lightly and give it plenty of time for the heat to soak back in between hits. Adding the glass thermal reservoir makes more total heat available in the time the hit is happening making it easier to make vapor and possible to make more than otherwise? It's a bit fiddly, but IMO no big deal.

For ten bucks I think everyone should at least try it?

OF

 

[Smknbud]

Please, what "various" sizes do you use? Beads should be less breakable (safer) than glass flowers.

I only said various sizes and borosilicate glass since the glass bead/flower thing works well and has been beaten to death in this thread with different folks using different iterations, with the most important point of making sure they are lead free. I was trying to cover all bases with one stone. Apparently I wasn't as successful as I thought I would be.

My real point was that after this long I would have thought they would have come up with something. For me, in the end, I find the small square hollowed out beads work best.

 

[vzno]

Hi everyone, I'm new.
I just bought the davinci ascent yesterday, try it a few times with basil, mint and other herbs. The smell is horrible, taste too.
I cleaned it, heat it at max temperature 2 times for 10 minutes to get rid of I don't know what..
I'm a polymer engineer and this plastic (rubberlike silicon like) smell and taste is a sign of low quality of raw materials, manufacturing and/or assembly.
After a short inverstigation, I've found that the plastic (silicon or rubber) seal close to the mouth is not sealing the inner plastic pipe from the inner component (battery, circuit board). Thus, the air/vapor come from the furnace BUT also from the inner part of the ascent which contain the inner components.
So so disappointed! That's not high quality at all. Furthermore, good quality plastic don't smell or taste anything.

I send Davinci an mail and wait for answers...
I made a draft to try to explain the palstic smell and taste but I don't know how to post it....

Sorry for my english, I'm french.

Here is my draft :

 

[Delta3DStudios]

Hi everyone, I'm new.
I just bought the davinci ascent yesterday, try it a few times with basil, mint and other herbs. The smell is horrible, taste too.
I cleaned it, heat it at max temperature 2 times for 10 minutes to get rid of I don't know what..
I'm a polymer engineer and this plastic (rubberlike silicon like) smell and taste is a sign of low quality of raw materials, manufacturing and/or assembly.
After a short inverstigation, I've found that the plastic (silicon or rubber) seal close to the mouth is not sealing the inner plastic pipe from the inner component (battery, circuit board). Thus, the air/vapor come from the furnace BUT also from the inner part of the ascent which contain the inner components.
So so disappointed! That's not high quality at all. Furthermore, good quality plastic don't smell or taste anything.

I send Davinci an mail and wait for answers...
I made a draft to try to explain the palstic smell and taste but I don't know how to post it....

Sorry for my english, I'm french.

@Davinci_vaporizer - this is my biggest complaint about the Ascent currently

@vzno welcome to the club - when I am home, I like to use my 14mm GonG adapter as a mouth-piece. It is much longer than the retractable stem. You can push it tight to the bottom of that vapor path and eliminate your problem.

Also, @KeroZen has a fix for your problem, I can't find his post right now, but there are instructions how to close that gap

 

[vzno]

@Ratchett: thank you for your answers.
I don't have any 14 mm adapter (Is it the diameter? The inner plastic pipe is like 9-10 mm in diameter, how can you push it in?)

I haven't read the previous comments but I agree with you, and what a complaint ! I 've bought it, thinking it would be very clean.. Furnace opened and a finger on the bottom pipe (on the little holes), I can draw a smelly a tasty plastic air .... and that is definitely air from what's inside the vaporizer (battery, cicuits, etc).

What a poor assembly. I wonder if in Europe they are selling old stocks and if new versions are better elsewhere. Anyway, that's a big mistake from the manufacturer and I should have been more careful on the informations I gathered before buying it.

I will try to find the fix from Kerozen, but after this experience, I don't really feel confident with this device. The maybe only thing that could get me to keep it is the portability coupled with the temperature range choice.

For the same price, I could have bought a solo and a mflb... I think I made a big mistake thinking it was high quality.

I can add:
- tip of the mouth piece with the edge damadged on arrival (sharp glass on your lips, first thing you try when you open the package...), Fortunately, there is a second set.
- I can see some glue on the face with the OLED screen (a very little amount, but I can see it...)
- There is a very small half elliptic bublle behind the screen on the edge of the screen.
- The first time I pushed the minus button, it got stuck... It continues since, half the time approximately.
- Well, I think that's already a lot for a 230 euros high quality device

 

[Delta3DStudios]

@Ratchett: thank you for your answers.
I don't have any 14 mm adapter (Is it the diameter? The inner plastic pipe is like 9-10 mm in diameter, how can you push it in?)

I haven't read the previous comments but I agree with you, and what a complaint ! I 've bought it, thinking it would be very clean.. Furnace opened and a finger on the bottom pipe (on the little holes), I can draw a smelly a tasty plastic air .... and that is definitely air from what's inside the vaporizer (battery, cicuits, etc).

What a poor assembly. I wonder if in Europe they are selling old stocks and if new versions are better elsewhere. Anyway, that's a big mistake from the manufacturer and I should have been more careful on the informations I gathered before buying it.

I will try to find the fix from Kerozen, but after this experience, I don't really feel confident with this device. The maybe only thing that could get me to keep it is the portability coupled with the temperature range choice.

For the same price, I could have bought a solo and a mflb... I think I made a big mistake thinking it was high quality.

I can add:
- tip of the mouth piece with the edge damadged on arrival (sharp glass on your lips, first thing you try when you open the package...), Fortunately, there is a second set.
- I can see some glue on the face with the OLED screen (a very little amount, but I can see it...)
- There is a very small half elliptic bublle behind the screen on the edge of the screen.
- The first time I pushed the minus button, it got stuck... It continues since, half the time approximately.
- Well, I think that's already a lot for a 230 euros high quality device

http://www.davincivaporizer.com/glass-straight-water-tool-adapter-14mm/ - This is made to connect your Ascent to a water pipe, but I like it as a mouthpiece. This piece will replace the retractable mouthpiece glass stem.


I agree with you - I believe the Ascent is too expensive for the quality. Theye ither need to lower the price, or raise the production quality and fix the air leaks

 

[sektr]

Question for you guys, I was cleaning my Ascent today and I noticed that the rubber oval that surrounds the passage where the glass stem is inserted to (the bottom part of the stem with the screen, the part inside the DV not on top) is separated from the unit on one side. Like around the bowl it's all one solid seal but if I flip it over and look at the matching oval around the screen one side of it seems to have a gap between the rubber and the outside part of the unit.

Anybody else seen this on theirs? Should I be concerned?

EDIT: Here's a picture, note the left side (of the rubber, not around the glass but the part the glass goes into) where there's a larger gap between the outer shell and the rubber.

 

[vzno]

@Davinci_vaporizer - this is my biggest complaint about the Ascent currently

@vzno welcome to the club - when I am home, I like to use my 14mm GonG adapter as a mouth-piece. It is much longer than the retractable stem. You can push it tight to the bottom of that vapor path and eliminate your problem.

Also, @KeroZen has a fix for your problem, I can't find his post right now, but there are instructions how to close that gap

Ok I tried what Kerozen suggested in #5733:
That works.....it draws less air from the inside.

BUT that can't be a permanent solution because you need to take out the glass straws for cleaning, which inevitabely means that you will have to do the little trick again and again, because the small seal won't be aligned anymore or fall inside.

The problem here is that this trick is risky , you can disconnect the wires from the switch quite easily by doing it. I managed to do it but I wasn't really confident on this.

Well, I'll have to buy the 14 mm adapter, that is also expensive.... I'm still waiting for answers form Davinci and the supplier in Amsterdam.

I think of buying a mflb and an arizer solo, so far the Davinci acsent is not a high quality product : if you can smell it, and worst TASTE it (the plastic, rubberlike, silicon like whatever it is...) that's not good at all, and that's the polymer specialist who speaks.

I think that everybody is triying to fix a very expensive product that should work instantly, and I am too. Instead, we should all send it back with this smelly complaint and ask for our money back.

Sorry but I'm very disappointed.

 

[Davinci_vaporizer]

My Ascent has been used almost daily for going on 10 months and has been a faithful companion. I have been using some glass beads as filler and it's worked perfectly. That being said, in that same time period I have been hoping that DaVinci would have gotten around to designing a spacer by now, especially since I was put on a list to receive one once they came out in that same time frame. Suggest during the interim you folks should include some various sized borosilicate glass beads packaged with the Ascent as a tide over.

I apologize for our delay in getting these made. We are still working on it and the project is not forgotten.

@Davinci_vaporizer- Maybe you could drill some holes in the glass oil cans that come with the unit, or use it as the base for a spacer that allows more air flow. Doesn't have to be made from the existing oil cans, could design a simple glass insert for the bowl. Something that would distribute heat well.

We are still working on new designs all the time to figure out what will work the best. I agree that it should be shaped similar to the bowl to disperse heat as evenly as possible. I have seen the posts from people that have drilled holes into the oil jars, way to vape intelligently Has anyone else done it and been pleased with the results? What are some other remedies you guys have used besides glass flowers?

 

[sektr]

Question for you guys, I was cleaning my Ascent today and I noticed that the rubber oval that surrounds the passage where the glass stem is inserted to (the bottom part of the stem with the screen, the part inside the DV not on top) is separated from the unit on one side. Like around the bowl it's all one solid seal but if I flip it over and look at the matching oval around the screen one side of it seems to have a gap between the rubber and the outside part of the unit.

Anybody else seen this on theirs? Should I be concerned?

EDIT: Here's a picture, note the left side (of the rubber, not around the glass but the part the glass goes into) where there's a larger gap between the outer shell and the rubber.

Pic deleted for space saving.

Somebody please give me an answer for this on if I'm alright to still use this! I never noticed this gap before, that being said I never really looked.

Sorry to essentially double post, this is my only vape currently (working on getting an EVO so it can just be a portable for when I'm on the go), so I need answers ASAP as I don't want to medicate and inhale potentially harmful fumes!

 

[CarolKing]

Pic deleted for space saving.

Somebody please give me an answer for this on if I'm alright to still use this! I never noticed this gap before, that being said I never really looked.

Sorry to essentially double post, this is my only vape currently (working on getting an EVO so it can just be a portable for when I'm on the go), so I need answers ASAP as I don't want to medicate and inhale potentially harmful fumes!

Maybe you need to send your unit back and get another one. My silicone is tight I have no gaps on my Ascent. My vape is 9 months old. Her b-day is in October, that's when I received it.

Good luck with that and fuckcombustion

 

[sektr]

Maybe you need to send your unit back and get another one. My silicone is tight I have no gaps on my Ascent. My vape is 9 months old. Her b-day is in October, that's when I received it.

Good luck with that and fuckcombustion

I sincerely hope not, I'm Canadian so shipping a used vape to their facility in the US doesn't seem like the brightest idea.

I've seen a few stock photos on Google that seem to have something similar so heres hoping its ok...

 

[CarolKing]

Does it feel like you have air leaks? If not and it works fine I wouldn't worry about it.
Does it give off a smell?

 

[KeroZen]

@vzno : bonjour !

At least you took the time to draw a better schematic than what I did, this is very nice because it will be easier to explain the problem to @Davinci_vaporizer (although I suspect that they are well aware but don't acknowledge it officially... they mentionned air leaks though...)

As you intuited properly, the quick fix is far from perfect but it really works. You will just have to recclaim your upper straw 'in-place' using ISO+q-tip, then recclaim from the q-tip to pure ISO in a second pass... but as we know, most of the good stuff is in the lower stem anyways.

I had to redo the fix with mine the other day when I did a thorough cleaning, and yes it's risky because the switch wires are super tiny and the solders are just the size of a pin-head. That being said it's a very basic soldering job if ever you unfortunately break one...

So first question for DaVinci: could you please acknowledge the problem officially? I care about that way more than the spacer (in fact I'm of the "pack the puck hard" school and don't use glass flowers so I could hardly care less...)

Second question for DaVinci: do I need to ask @Ratchett to produce you a 3D model of the revised silicone buddy rim or are you smart enough to figure it yourself? I tried to explain it in plain english already, and it shouldn't be hard to do. We need a protruding cylinder on the bottom part of the silicone rim, it should be about 5mm long and its external diameter should match closely the internal diameter of the plastic tube (air tunnel) inside the body of the device, in which it should slide-in when it's in place. Its internal diameter should be larger than the current rim "hole" as to not create too much friction with the upper glass straw (ie it needs to be larger than the hole) That should completely seal the air-leak and if it's long enough it should even allow for some play once the buddy rim gets warped with time.

As for the silicone curing / off-gassing, and in general, I'm growing tired of having to be @Davinci_vaporizer's advocate, they have been absent for so long we had to stand behind their product when it should clearly have been *their* job! So I will let them repeat their official bla-bla about using high-temp food-grade silicone and that any fume or smell should be safe...

I even proposed them to include silica dessicant packs inside the box to remove excess smells, as their competitors are doing that, but they should cure/post-cure their silicone for longer and honnestly they should be the ones doing the factory burn-in's instead of us...

So my dear @vzno, do not let these problems discourage you, after 5+ burn-ins all smells should be gone, and once the vapor/air ratio is fixed, this device compares favorably to the Solo (ie I think it's amongst the best portables currently out there) and welcome on board!

 

[nojail101]

Mainley the herbalizer but the davinci and the pinnacle are in the video too better video to come bets test iphone took 10 min to make video and upload lol as u can tell

 

[Aelio]

Hey everybody,

Thought I'd give you an update on my recent experience with DV customer service and warranty process. I'm happy to report that the package sent back to me from DV contained a brand new Ascent. I was very excited by the fact that they gave me a new one, it was exactly what I wanted.

Quick question/concern though... I never used the oil jars/cans that came with the unit but I pulled them out today and tried to put them into the bowl but they wouldn't fit. I kept wondering if I was doing something wrong but there is only so many ways to do it... Like the jar got stuck and wouldn't even go into the bowl... Has anyone else experienced this before? The only reason I'm even trying this is because I heard you can use it as a spacer and back smaller bowls with it but I can't even get them to fit in the damn thing... I had a pair of pliers out earlier trying to grab the jar to pry it out...

 

[OF]

Like the jar got stuck and wouldn't even go into the bowl... Has anyone else experienced this before? The only reason I'm even trying this is because I heard you can use it as a spacer and back smaller bowls with it but I can't even get them to fit in the damn thing...

Some have reported a tight fit, but under no conditions should you try to fit that cold jar in a warm unit......right?

OF

 

[Aelio]

Some have reported a tight fit, but under no conditions should you try to fit that cold jar in a warm unit......right?

OF

Wasn't attempting to put it into the ascent warm... Honestly I hadn't even turned the thing on since I took it out of the box before attempting to put the oil jar into it. At this point though... they don't fit at all. Guess I'll be following up with DV customer service, yet again...

 

[OF]

Wasn't attempting to put it into the ascent warm... Honestly I hadn't even turned the thing on since I took it out of the box before attempting to put the oil jar into it.

Cool, I figured as much, I just wanted to be sure you knew not to 'give it another try' once the oven is warm.

It's entirely possible you know........ You know why not, right?

OF

 

[KeroZen]

@Aelio: forget using the glass jar as a spacer, this is a bad idea... it might work, for a while, then one day you will not be able to remove it as it will be completely stuck to the bowl. You've been warned!