Ascent Vaporizer by DaVinci

[OF]

@Aelio: forget using the glass jar as a spacer, this is a bad idea... it might work, for a while, then one day you will not be able to remove it as it will be completely stuck to the bowl. You've been warned!

Ah, the voice of experience no doubt.......

IIRC part of the issues is getting glued in with condensate and resin? Not the same thing as"'shrink fitting" the big peg in the small hole, you've a chance to recover at least.

OF

 

[KeroZen]

Right, not exactly the same thing, but a bad idea in both cases!

Overall these glass jars are not the key selling point of this device, to say the least... IMHO it's a gimmick at best, but anyone serious about doing oils and concentrates would surely use a better suited vape instead.

But please let's not derail too much, @Davinci_vaporizer has resurrected and I really wish they will (at last) address the variable vapor/air ratio issue (see how I tried to stay polite by not calling it the awfuly embarrassing air leak from the bloody electronics section!)

I'm really afraid that it will end like in some other threads here where the manufacturer is present but carefully avoids all annoying comments... (I don't have any particular in mind but I recall having that impression while browsing)

Nah! Let's be optimistic! It's just a matter of creating a new mold for the buddy rim, and we know they can mold very fine details (cf the bowl lip-seal upgrade they did) and as @nigel noticed, this element (buddy rim) has already evolved over time (new V-shape)

 

[OF]

I'm really afraid that it will end like in some other threads here where the manufacturer is present but carefully avoids all annoying comments...

I agree, there's huge difference between stating your issue politely and clearly then backing off when the message gets through and beating up the poor fellow every time he shows. One is useful, the other flat out rude. One helps the community, the other drives off the resource. I think the record is Iolite? I believe we really outdid ourselves there and ran off 4 (?) different representatives with whining. Twice IIRC it got so bad that Iolite pulled all their prior posts....many of which had useful information in them.

These guys are our guests here, collectively we can greatly benefit from their participation as long as some (usually few) don't use the opportunity to grind their personal axe. Nobody likes to be treated the way we have treated some in the past. Like in the real world, where you use your real name, being rude to a guest is not the way to ensure a quick return visit.

Thanks for the reminder.

OF

 

[vzno]

I'll be really glad to help ! Still waiting for them to ask.

 

[Aelio]

@KeroZen Thanks for the input. I agree that the oil jars aren't the key selling point. They seem to be there now to further justify the v price of the unit. The fact it can do more than just dry herb sounds like a unique feature when purchasing.

I'm still scratching my head as to how well these glass flowers work. I've been seeing them in pictures and they just look huge with big stems coming off of them, but some seem to love them and have great success. I'd love to see one in a pic or video inside the unit. Or if someone can briefly describe how they fit. Any info is appreciated thanks.

 

[CarolKing]

All 6 glass pipe stem flowers in the bowl of the Ascent. Use however many fit in the bowl if your beads or flowers are larger. As you see sometimes the petals break off from the flowers.

Here is the flowers and how they work. It's not rocket science and they aren't very big. You can fit as many as about 8 at the max in the unit. This was posted about a month ago. Try going through about the last 20 to 25 pages of this thread. Some things like the flowers are repeated a lot. Skip over the repeated things, get yourself up to speed on the Ascent.

 

[Aelio]

Here is the flowers and how they work. It's not rocket science and they aren't very big. You can fit as many as about 8 at the max in the unit.

Lol wow those are so tiny. Lol ty I appreciate that.

Now I'd just like something I could place over bottom of bowl to keep herb and resin from collecting around the corners of the small circle in the bowl. When I was preparing my unit for the mailing system (warranty) this drove me crazy. Now I have a new unit and want to prevent that from happening. I think if I just clean after every session it'll stay clean but wanted another option.

 

[Norcalsun]

I've also given up on the glass oil jars. I'd rather use 4 or 5 flowers packed in a full bowl, I get much better results this way. I've pretty much fined tuned my method now and I have no real complaints. I'm blowing out clouds at below 390F, usually keep it between 380 and 385. After vaping with the Ascent for over 6 months I can still say that there is definitely a difference in the high between combustion/joints and vaping. I have a place and time for both. Although I would like to stop combusting completely there are benefits that I get from it that I haven't been able to get from vaping. I've tried lots of different temps and different varieties of bud but still can't get that certain body high thing that helps me so much. I still like the Ascent a lot and plan on using it consistently along with my other techniques. I agree the price should be a little lower but I've noticed just about all the vaporizers out there are over priced as well. The more I use this unit the more I like it.

 

[Davinci_vaporizer]

@vzno : bonjour !

At least you took the time to draw a better schematic than what I did, this is very nice because it will be easier to explain the problem to @Davinci_vaporizer (although I suspect that they are well aware but don't acknowledge it officially... they mentionned air leaks though...)

As you intuited properly, the quick fix is far from perfect but it really works. You will just have to recclaim your upper straw 'in-place' using ISO+q-tip, then recclaim from the q-tip to pure ISO in a second pass... but as we know, most of the good stuff is in the lower stem anyways.

I had to redo the fix with mine the other day when I did a thorough cleaning, and yes it's risky because the switch wires are super tiny and the solders are just the size of a pin-head. That being said it's a very basic soldering job if ever you unfortunately break one...

So first question for DaVinci: could you please acknowledge the problem officially? I care about that way more than the spacer (in fact I'm of the "pack the puck hard" school and don't use glass flowers so I could hardly care less...)

Second question for DaVinci: do I need to ask @Ratchett to produce you a 3D model of the revised silicone buddy rim or are you smart enough to figure it yourself? I tried to explain it in plain english already, and it shouldn't be hard to do. We need a protruding cylinder on the bottom part of the silicone rim, it should be about 5mm long and its external diameter should match closely the internal diameter of the plastic tube (air tunnel) inside the body of the device, in which it should slide-in when it's in place. Its internal diameter should be larger than the current rim "hole" as to not create too much friction with the upper glass straw (ie it needs to be larger than the hole) That should completely seal the air-leak and if it's long enough it should even allow for some play once the buddy rim gets warped with time.

As for the silicone curing / off-gassing, and in general, I'm growing tired of having to be @Davinci_vaporizer's advocate, they have been absent for so long we had to stand behind their product when it should clearly have been *their* job! So I will let them repeat their official bla-bla about using high-temp food-grade silicone and that any fume or smell should be safe...

I even proposed them to include silica dessicant packs inside the box to remove excess smells, as their competitors are doing that, but they should cure/post-cure their silicone for longer and honnestly they should be the ones doing the factory burn-in's instead of us...

So my dear @vzno, do not let these problems discourage you, after 5+ burn-ins all smells should be gone, and once the vapor/air ratio is fixed, this device compares favorably to the Solo (ie I think it's amongst the best portables currently out there) and welcome on board!

Thank you so much for standing behind us in while we were not active on FC. However, the voice of our customers is something we value tremendously and we have always kept up with new discussions and comments going on about our products. This is what motivates us to continue innovating and creating.

The glass spacers are in production now and will be ready in the coming months. We have identified 90% of the air leaks. We are ever working on the remainder. We are looking for a way to provide the thickest clouds possible while providing a clean, quality vapor. As always any suggestions or experience shares are welcome and we thank you for your patience.

 

[OF]

I'll be really glad to help ! Still waiting for them to ask.

What was it Chruchilll said? "They also serve, who only stand and wait....". Stand tall.

I'd rather use 4 or 5 flowers packed in a full bowl, I get much better results this way. I've pretty much fined tuned my method now and I have no real complaints. I'm blowing out clouds at below 390F, usually keep it between 380 and 385. After vaping with the Ascent for over 6 months I can still say that there is definitely a difference in the high between combustion/joints and vaping.

Good point, this vape, perhaps more than most others, tends to respond well to 'personal techniques'. I think an owner should keep and open mind and experiment with it, there are lots of ways to get marginal and OK performance, but there are also techniques that excel above the others.

As to vaping and blazing being different, that's for sure. Unfortunately your brain/experience is tied up there too. Smoking is not a natural thing and your body is quick let you know. It took conscious effort for us all to get off by smoking dope. We had to ignore/force our way past some nasty reflexes trying to prevent it. The rewards made the effort worth it, soon our brains linked to two......smoking makes you high......to the point you can then get off smoking other herbs with no THC under the right conditions.

Vaping is the reverse of that in some aspects. As a blazer, your brain is still running the same drill on you. There is really no physiological basis for this: Vapor can contain the 'right' active components and the garbage in smoke doesn't contribute past the same buzz you get from sucking on a bus tailpipe or huffing spray paint......neither of which is very attractive from a health standpoint.

I suggest you try completely stopping blazing for a while. A couple of weeks is what it seems to take most of us, long enough for your besieged brain to figure out 'I don't have to stick my face in the campfire to get off'. By then your lungs should be starting to clear and you'll find smoking is every bit as disgusting as it once was and no longer necessary to 'get to the good stuff'.

Best wishes to all.

OF

 

[Delta3DStudios]

Thank you so much for standing behind us in while we were not active on FC. However, the voice of our customers is something we value tremendously and we have always kept up with new discussions and comments going on about our products. This is what motivates us to continue innovating and creating..

Air leaks have been my biggest remaining complaint regarding the Ascent's design. When used while traveling without my 14mm straight GonG adapter (my preferred mouthpiece), I can only extract my glass mouthpiece about 6mm - just enough to get my lips around in order to reduce the clean air entering from the bottom of the outer glass stem.

If there is a major update to the Ascent's vapor path or other updates including firmware, will older Ascent's under warranty be covered for refurbishment to improve vapor production?

 

[Smknbud]

If there is a major update to the Ascent's vapor path or other updates including firmware, are older Ascent's under warranty be covered for refurbishment to improve vapor production?

The eternal optimist surfaces from within I'll be there right behind you if they actually do this.

 

[Delta3DStudios]

The eternal optimist surfaces from within I'll be there right behind you if they actually do this.

Never hurts to ask!

 

[KeroZen]

@Davinci_vaporizer : Ha! Excellent news!

You know, sometimes a few words are enough to restore a lost faith... I must say that I was starting to think that you guys were letting us down!

I'm eager to test the new spacer, I hope the price will be sweet (some of your accessories are a bit over-priced for me)

But as I said several times already, I don't think flowers or any kind of spacer are needed once the vapor/air ratio is right (remember @OF that the ceramic bowl was upgraded to have more mass and a protruding extension towards the grill, and I'm not 100% sure but I think @nigel's device which you used for your tests did not have that reworked bowl)

With my device (and also the way I draw) I wait about 10 seconds between hits and that's more than enough, so nowhere near the full minute you keep recommending! They might also have set the PID coeffs to something more aggressive, I don't know... I'm not saying it's not possible to overwhelm the heater, as there are only that many amps available and it's just a portable vape, but since I applied the leak fix this is really a steam machine and I can almost hit it back to back non-stop until the temp level is depleted.

So back to the leaks, I don't know how to interpret the "90% identified" part as I imagined DaVinci engineers had a clearer view of what's going on. But afterall this is no rocket-science: there were leaks at the bowl/hinge level (fixed with the silicone lip), there were leaks at the bottom of the air tunnel (remember the exposed wires pictures?) but @JCat ensured me this was good now, I suspected at some point that there could be leaks 3/4 down the air tunnel but apparently it's a single piece of plastic (can you confirm?) so the only place left is the buddy rim vs air tunnel junction and I think we documented that more than enough for you to take action now.

The quick fix I proposed is a proof that it works, and people also reported improvements using the GonG adaptor or Ed's stems because they achieve the same end result.

Now I realize I was asking the impossible when I said I wanted an official acknowledgment because it would be hell for your company as all the current user base would request an upgrade for free and would send their devices back under warranty, you would lose a lot of money. And as it is, the device is indeed working: extraction is not optimal, but there's vapor, it's not deffective per se, hence your official "it's working as designed" stance.

In that same vein, I imagine it would be impossible for you to just list a "revised buddy rim" accessory on your site, as people would undoubtly wonder what it is about, and would thus discover the leak existence... and admitting there's some air coming from the electronics can't be good for your reputation... (plus: you can't expect your average user to have the skills to apply the fix without damaging their device)

I'm afraid we are in a dead-end. If you fix the new devices produced that would be a partial victory for us already, but what about the existing users? Would it be possible to arrange some kind of special deal for FC members? As I said I'm even willing to pay for a revised buddy rim... Maybe the interested parties could contact you by PM as to not make too much waves?

 

[vzno]

@Davinci_vaporizer : Ha! Excellent news!

You know, sometimes a few words are enough to restore a lost faith... I must say that I was starting to think that you guys were letting us down!

I'm eager to test the new spacer, I hope the price will be sweet (some of your accessories are a bit over-priced for me)

But as I said several times already, I don't think flowers or any kind of spacer are needed once the vapor/air ratio is right (remember @OF that the ceramic bowl was upgraded to have more mass and a protruding extension towards the grill, and I'm not 100% sure but I think @nigel's device which you used for your tests did not have that reworked bowl)

With my device (and also the way I draw) I wait about 10 seconds between hits and that's more than enough, so nowhere near the full minute you keep recommending! They might also have set the PID coeffs to something more aggressive, I don't know... I'm not saying it's not possible to overwhelm the heater, as there are only that many amps available and it's just a portable vape, but since I applied the leak fix this is really a steam machine and I can almost hit it back to back non-stop until the temp level is depleted.

So back to the leaks, I don't know how to interpret the "90% identified" part as I imagined DaVinci engineers had a clearer view of what's going on. But afterall this is no rocket-science: there were leaks at the bowl/hinge level (fixed with the silicone lip), there were leaks at the bottom of the air tunnel (remember the exposed wires pictures?) but @JCat ensured me this was good now, I suspected at some point that there could be leaks 3/4 down the air tunnel but apparently it's a single piece of plastic (can you confirm?) so the only place left is the buddy rim vs air tunnel junction and I think we documented that more than enough for you to take action now.

The quick fix I proposed is a proof that it works, and people also reported improvements using the GonG adaptor or Ed's stems because they achieve the same end result.

Now I realize I was asking the impossible when I said I wanted an official acknowledgment because it would be hell for your company as all the current user base would request an upgrade for free and would send their devices back under warranty, you would lose a lot of money. And as it is, the device is indeed working: extraction is not optimal, but there's vapor, it's not deffective per se, hence your official "it's working as designed" stance.

In that same vein, I imagine it would be impossible for you to just list a "revised buddy rim" accessory on your site, as people would undoubtly wonder what it is about, and would thus discover the leak existence... and admitting there's some air coming from the electronics can't be good for your reputation... (plus: you can't expect your average user to have the skills to apply the fix without damaging their device)

I'm afraid we are in a dead-end. If you fix the new devices produced that would be a partial victory for us already, but what about the existing users? Would it be possible to arrange some kind of special deal for FC members? As I said I'm even willing to pay for a revised buddy rim... Maybe the interested parties could contact you by PM as to not make too much waves?

It is a dead end indeed... I'm trying to find a temperature resistant medical grade o-ring which could fit and fill the gap, but not as tight as the piece of silicone provided with the ascent which is too tight.

I think that the message from davinci is a joke "we identified 90% of the leaks". Really ??? Their engineer are not testing/using/trying their device or what ?

You (members of this site) have been talking about air leaks for several months now... They should come more often to take into account your suggestions.

I'm also willing to pay for a revised buddy rim. But don't hope too much, there will be a new 250 euros revised ultra high quality ascent version Davinci² Pro, before a new buddy rim comes, made from their super engineer thanks to your super comments and suggestions. As you said, they just can't sell a fix on the same page as the ascent

And if you want it, you'll have to buy it.

 

[CarolKing]

Why wouldn't Davinci just keep working on fixing air leaks until everything is just right with the Ascent? It seems like that's what they've been doing. They just haven't said anything about it recently. I'm sure they will come out with a newer version at some point. I'm sure that's a while away off in the future.

If you are not happy with the Ascent let Davinci know and maybe you can get the Original Davinci at a reduced price.

Vzno, Remember no disrespecting folks on the forum. Just a friendly reminder.

 

[OF]

But as I said several times already, I don't think flowers or any kind of spacer are needed once the vapor/air ratio is right (remember [USER=7683]@OF that the ceramic bowl was upgraded to have more mass and a protruding extension towards the grill, and I'm not 100% sure but I think @nigel's device which you used for your tests did not have that reworked bowl)

With my device (and also the way I draw) I wait about 10 seconds between hits and that's more than enough, so nowhere near the full minute you keep recommending!

[/USER]

I follow (I think) what you're saying, I just don't agree with it. Adding mass and changing the shape of the bowl will not improve it's ability to transfer heat in during the hit, in fact it will make it worse (but not by much). The problem is the layer of insulation (glass) between it and the load. Almost immediately there develops a 'temperature drop' there. The sensor (inside the heater) is more isolated from what's going on in the load, not less (which is what we need). And I have objective test results that I believe support that. In fact, in 'true science fashion' the results of the tests led me to the conclusion.

Those same tests also objectively measured the time involved. Nothing subjective. This led to the observation that performance is improved by longer 'soak times'. This has, I believe, been confirmed by LOTS of users? Am I wrong here? Haven't others reported improvements by waiting longer than 10 seconds between hits?

Folks, anyone agree with 'waiting more than 10 seconds between hits is a waste, there is no improvement'? I'm happy to do some subjective testing, but (due to my background) I put much more faith in data collected without 'the human element'. I favor hard, repeatable tests with real numbers. I know at least one Member repeated my experiments and reported the same results. That's how science works......or did when I went to school.

[QUOTE="CarolKing, post: 639449, member: 16359"]Why wouldn't Davinci just keep working on fixing air leaks until everything is just right with the Ascent? It seems like that's what they've been doing. They just haven't said anything about it recently. [/QUOTE]

Well put. It's logical (and a good sign) that they continue to refine the product. But I think it's off base to assume they are stupid, or didn't test well, or fully consider what any user thinks is so important or obvious a flaw (to him/her). Capitalism will quickly fix that if it's happening (and I surely see no evidence it is). Any product is a compromise. Well, almost any product. One can argue a Rolls is the 'best motor car possible', or that Tiffany cut no corners. I think we can see evidence of sound Engineering principles played off against the needs of Marketing. That compromise can, of course, change over time. Very few of us are willing to pay the high cost of 'the best possible'. We want 'bang for the buck'.

OK, some want it all, I get that too.

I can fully understand DV (or any maker) keeping interim details confidential. In fact, I recommend it. Look at what happens otherwise......nay sayers and second guessers have a field day. And with them are otherwise good customers who don't buy since they're waiting for something better. And those who were quite happy to buy as soon as they could but expect free exchanges when the new model comes out (try that one on Toyota or GM) as if the costs of this don't exist. I'm against such upgrades since I believe that 'there is no free lunch', the cost of this will be paid by other customers as those costs show up 'at the pump'. Someone (else) will pay for it. I get how that's not important to some.

OF

 

[vzno]

Why wouldn't Davinci just keep working on fixing air leaks until everything is just right with the Ascent? It seems like that's what they've been doing. They just haven't said anything about it recently. I'm sure they will come out with a newer version at some point. I'm sure that's a while away off in the future.

If you are not happy with the Ascent let Davinci know and maybe you can get the Original Davinci at a reduced price.

Vzno, Remember no disrespecting folks on the forum. Just a friendly reminder.

I did let them know it, here and directly. Still waiting.
Sure they keep working on fixing air leaks, I just think that they just won't provide official individual solutions for us.
I agree with you for the new version, but they still need to sell their stocks and the suppliers too.
Sorry for the disrespect, as I said, I'll be very glad to help, moreover that was my job a while ago (design, materials, assemby, etc.).

 

[CarolKing]

OF, You always find the perfect thing to say.

There are a couple of vape companies that announced that they would be coming out with a new improved version of their product, just recently. That's nice that they are telling the customers. So the smart people will wait for the new improved version to come out four or five months to a year down the road.

IMO I don't know if giving out too much info would also be good for their company. I think if I was this guy's boss I wouldn't be happy with him telling customers that until the product was almost ready for sale.

I think it's best for companies to quietly improve products. It's great they come on forums and help to answer questions about their products. I think some info should be kept between employees of that company.

Sometimes these representative from companies promise too much and can't deliver. Then the folks on that particular thread really get pissed. Then the members start attacking the company and they stop coming on the forum to answer questions.

I'm glad Davinci is back adding to the Ascent's thread. Welcome back Davinci.

 

[OF]

OF, You always find the perfect thing to say.

I think it's best for companies to quietly improve products. It's great they come on forums and help to answer questions about their products. I think some info should be kept between employees of that company.

Sometimes these representative from companies promise too much and can't deliver. Then the folks on that particular thread really get pissed. Then the members start attacking the company and they stop coming on the forum to answer questions.

I'm glad Davinci is back adding to the Ascent's thread. Welcome back Davinci.

Thanks for the kind words. I disagree with "perfect" (as is my nature) but I do strive to be honest (which is, IMO, more important......imperfection is reality, honesty is a goal?). FWIW, I consider you just as guilty in this area......

I too think maker's presence here is a HUGE plus. One we should carefully protect for our mutual benefit. That goose is laying golden eggs, not all the time of course, but it's not wise to try to squeeze more out. I also fully agree that this can lead to unfortunate expectations, something for the makers to be aware of constantly. A fine balance at best.

You know there's a lot of truth to the observation that many employees are very happy with their jobs, until the find out someone else is being paid more........ Nothing has changed, save their attitude.

Thanks once again for your excellent insights, sharing such is the true value of Forums like this. Ya done good.

Again.

OF

 

[Davinci_vaporizer]

Why wouldn't Davinci just keep working on fixing air leaks until everything is just right with the Ascent? It seems like that's what they've been doing. They just haven't said anything about it recently. I'm sure they will come out with a newer version at some point. I'm sure that's a while away off in the future.

If you are not happy with the Ascent let Davinci know and maybe you can get the Original Davinci at a reduced price.

Vzno, Remember no disrespecting folks on the forum. Just a friendly reminder.

That is exactly it. We are always working on new designs and improvements for both units. For example, we released a new flexi straw for the original DaVinci that is much more durable. Manufacturing things takes a lot of time from development, to prototypes, to functional testing then you repeat that about a gazillion times. Finally you market it. There are a lot of solutions that we have been playing with (and a lot of amazing and really simple suggestions on here as well) but these things take time. We want to please everyone.

 

[OF]

There are a lot of solutions that we have been playing with (and a lot of amazing and really simple suggestions on here as well) but these things take time. We want to please everyone.

"Good things come to those who wait". Worked for Grandma, works for me.......

I'd advise rethinking that pleasing everyone thing, looking back that's the bad idea that destroyed my love life.....

OF

 

[Aelio]

I don't know much about the company as a whole and have never owned any of their vapes other than the ascent but so far they have done good by me.

You can't get much better than a manufacturer mailing you a brand new unit to replace you're defective one using 2 day priority mail

So far this vape has been the best vape I have ever owned. The only one I've used that I can say is good is a volcano, but those are in a different league all together, and that includes the price tag...

There are many more good things to say about this vape than bad. You can also tell by the way DV customer service operates and the overall effectiveness of the unit that these guys aren't here to rob you of your money. A company can always change but for now I'd say their doing good work. I'm also thankful that a manufacturer such as DV even exists and spends time creating devices to support our maybe not so productive habits lol.

 

[CheeseHead]

Was buying my first vaporiser a few weeks ago, although used a friends Volcano for a few years now and again. After reading about all the problems with the Ascent, and how the Solo was the much better / reliable choice, I went for that.

Took a bit of getting used to, however now, i love my solo but that's chat for another thread. Anyway, fast forward 2 weeks and the Solo has died. Wasn't dropped or anything, just decided to not come on.

So yesterday when sending it back to the place I bought it, I decided to order an Ascent (with Pinnacle water tool and straight glass water adapter ) for £239 - so £100 more than my Solo, to use while it was being returned..

I read the last 50 pages or so on here, and was convinced I would be on here today as one of the few praising the Ascent for a change...

So I opened the box, pulled it out and put it on charge. Before I had even turned it on, I noticed a strong smell / taste of plastic or silicon. Thought, no problem, a couple of burn in sessions should do the trick..... 40 mins later at full temp and the smell is still there, although not nearly as strong.

So I decided to put in the provided screen at the bottom of the bowl, and fill it up with a nice kush to see if it was disappear after being contaminated with weed lol. Had a few bowls at 190C and worked my way up till it was all gone, alternating between the water tool adapter etc. just trying things out.

Was quite impressed, very nice taste, not sure if I could smell / taste the silicony plastic smell, was a bit weird but i've never vaped this strain before in the Solo, so taste could be coming from the weed, not sure, but it was especially smooth with the bubbler water tool.

Long story short, after I emptied the bowl, I was messing around with the buttons, temp settings, checking out the menu etc. the screen just went off and won't come back on. The vape is still heating up etc when you push the buttons, but who knows what temp, and due to the lack of LED indicators or beeps, i can't even tell if it's on or not.

Just phoned vapefiend (UK shop) I bought from, and they are saying prob just send it back and they'll send a new one..... not sure i want a new one now, might just ask for refund instead.

So now, i'm yet again vapeless, sitting here rolling myself a nasty joint to combust like the rest of the fools lol!

EDIT: Just as i pick the unit up in despair again and press the buttons, the screen has came on again and it seems to be working fine?!?!

 

[KidFated.]

Was buying my first vaporiser a few weeks ago, although used a friends Volcano for a few years now and again. After reading about all the problems with the Ascent, and how the Solo was the much better / reliable choice, I went for that.

Took a bit of getting used to, however now, i love my solo but that's chat for another thread. Anyway, fast forward 2 weeks and the Solo has died. Wasn't dropped or anything, just decided to not come on.

So yesterday when sending it back to the place I bought it, I decided to order an Ascent (with Pinnacle water tool and straight glass water adapter ) for £239 - so £100 more than my Solo to use it was being returned..

I read the last 50 pages or so on here, and was convinced I would be on here today as one of the few praising the Ascent for a change...

So I opened the box, pulled it out and put it on charge. Before I had even turned it on, I noticed a strong smell / taste of plastic or silicon. Thought, no problem, a couple of burn in sessions should do the trick..... 40 mins later at full temp and the smell is still there, although not nearly as strong.

So I decided to put in the provided screen at the bottom of the bowl, and fill it up with a nice kush to see if it was disappear after being contaminated with weed lol. Had a few bowls at 190C and worked my way up till it was all gone, alternating between the water tool adapter etc. just trying things out.

Was quite impressed, very nice taste, not sure if I could smell / taste the silicony plastic smell, was a bit weird but i've never vaped this strain before in the Solo, so taste could be coming from the weed, not sure, but it was especially smooth with the bubbler water tool.

Long story short, after I emptied the bowl, I was messing around with the buttons, temp settings, checking out the menu etc. the screen just went off and won't come back on. The vape is still heating up etc when you push the buttons, but who knows what temp, and due to the lack of LED indicators or beeps, i can't even tell if it's on or not.

Just phoned vapefiend (UK shop) I bought from, and they are saying prob just send it back and they'll send a new one..... not sure i want a new one now, might just ask for refund instead.

So now, i'm yet again vapeless, sitting here rolling myself a nasty joint to combust like the rest of the fools lol!

EDIT: Just as i pick the unit up in despair again and press the buttons, it's came on again!?!?

I would try again with either solo or ascent, vape fiend is taking care of you, so what's the risk? Are you paying return shipping?

Sounds like you need a flame powered backup?