Arizer Solo

[olivianewtonjohn]

Gentle Friends,

Coming 'up to speed' on Solo I thought I'd share a couple of thoughts/discoveries I've been having. First off, I too have followed the 'my stem's too loose' saga with some interest. I think there's some useful and fun play here for those inclined. I'm a bit worried about hardware store (plumbing) o-rings. IMO they're not a good choice of materials due to temperature concerns. There's a long way between boiling water hot and were we vape. I can see they may well get overheated, being BunaN or Neoprene rather than Viton or Silicone. They're also soft intentionally (better to seal water leaks), I'm not sure that's what we want? I also think the normal cord folks are using (1/8 Inch) is a bit too thick (witness the trouble some have getting the lid all the way down), 3/32 cord seems better sized. Likewise, half inch ID means it has to stretch a lot to pass the stem. I think the size we want is (industry standard size) -113? And in some high temperature material.

However, I think the idea is not to seal but to grip? A line contact like a ring is not really what we want, making the washer type seal a good idea if the hole is right and the thickness OK. Along those lines I'm having very good luck with a very short piece of 550F Silicone tube. Even though it's nominally small (half inch) being as short as it is (about 3/32 as best I can cut with scissors) it easily stretches and being as soft as it is it adjusts easily without problems. Mine is working very well for the last several days, if you have high quality silicone tube in that size I recommend trying it.

In a whole other area I too have had my white knuckle time staring at the lights. I have a very nice 9 Volt six Amp switcher here I'd love to use as a PA but it won't work. Even after dealing with the funny connector. It's giving the 'bottom 3 LED light show' instead. I just did a little test that I think has tied a bunch of this all together. Someone suggested a similar set of problems with charging being erratic was the result of under voltage from a defective wall wort. That got me to thinking about the auto switching that has to go on inside Solo. It has to sense that the 12 supply is good for charging but not for PA. Likewise, it has to 'know' the nine Volts it sees is not to charge with but to use for PA mode. No switches involved. So, I rigged it up to a variable supply and had a watch. That's exactly it. A solid 12 Volts is fine, but it 'yanks a bit' on it and if it sags too low it starts light shows. Several different ones that no doubt spell something useful out to those in the know. A bit above 9 Volts the 'last 3 together' show happens and stays the thing to do until just under 9.0 Volts when PA mode kicks in. As luck would have it my '9 Volt' supply reads 9.2 unloaded. Notice the '9 Volt' supply they sell (and label the unit for) is actually 8.5 per the nameplate? Clue there I think. It's not '9 Volts' for PA it's "at least a bit under 9.0" that's called for. Or so it seems. Next step I lower my supply down a mite and see if that makes everyone happy again. I bet it does.

I think there's more here than meets the eye. Randomly trying supplies is likely to not come out the way you'd normally think. Unless you've a taste for such stuff, sticking with the factory gear is probably the best call?

OF

I had a response written out disagreeing with you as I was testing the solo, but I just noticed something. The part that is in direct contact with the o-ring barely gets warm. I also have found memories of touching the old facet in our kitchen after some hot water was running through it. The facet would be really HOT anywhere near where the spout, the oring would obviously get even hotter being inside the facet. One issue I see is when you take the stem out the hottest part will pass through the o-ring. Do I think its hotter than what the oring would experience in normal use?-Probably not. I did leave the stem barely in so the hottest part rested on the oring as it cooled and I did not notice any damage. I guess better safe than sorry though so if anyone finds a good alternative I would gladly upgrade.

An upgrade would have to be nontoxic (we know the oring is safe since its used with drinking water), and would have to be able to grip and squeeze, and would have to be able to handle very high temperatures (part that might be missing from the orings)

 

[ataxian]

Is there a company that makes an inline water attachment for the Solo? Could one like this be modified to work? The way the whip end looks it seems like (and remember, I've never worked with glass so I could be way off) you could heat up the end and work it out to the correct size. Also seems like it wouldn't be too hard to craft one with the right know-how; maybe even rig one up with the straight stem and a bottle or something.

http://www.planetvape.ca/vaporizer-accessories/glass/water-tools.html

 

[kingofnull]

Hey everyone! I've been lurking on the forums for a while now and with your advice and some other research I made the plunge and bought the Solo. I've owned an EZ Vape, Vapir One v5.0 and an NO2 previously and none were nearly as good!

I did a search and couldn't find a similar question on this, so forgive me if it's a repeat.

Is there a company that makes an inline water attachment for the Solo? Could one like this be modified to work? The way the whip end looks it seems like (and remember, I've never worked with glass so I could be way off) you could heat up the end and work it out to the correct size. Also seems like it wouldn't be too hard to craft one with the right know-how; maybe even rig one up with the straight stem and a bottle or something.

$99

 

[michaelstone]

where?

 

[VaPeD&CoNfUsEd]

That particular tube is from glassblowersdirect.com
I also believe that the new watertool for the pinnacle would be awesome with the solo.

 

[OF]

One issue I see is when you take the stem out the hottest part will pass through the o-ring. Do I think its hotter than what the oring would experience in normal use?-Probably not.

I'd have to say without a doubt it's way hotter, wouldn't you? It's between a SS wall and a load of herb, both of which are 400F near enough. That's WAY above the typical 160F of domestic hot water.

I agree, 'worst case' is the metric here.

How much of a risk that is, each guy gets to pick for himself. But my experience around vapes is some guys can be extremely demanding. I'll be happy to lay out what I see and let folks decide on this one I guess, I'm sure not going to try to reason with some of the guys who take safety way more seriously than I do.

OF

 

[michaelstone]

That particular tube is from glassblowersdirect.com
I also believe that the new watertool for the pinnacle would be awesome with the solo.

yes the HT for pinnacle is nice...at least it looks nice in vid with solo

 

[Dreamerr]

I just got the PN and yes the WT works fine with the solo. I am still learning the WT and have to figure out the water level.

 

[michaelstone]

this one looks nice too:

 

[Chill Dude]

I really don't see the problem. So what if some of the solo stems fit a little loose. Unless you hold it upside down and shake it, the stems not going anywhere. Moreover, With the PVHES Stems, the airflow is great , you can get huge clouds and not to mention very medicated. IMO, having a slightly loose stem does not hinder performance at all and is not a big issue to me. However, the issue has been brought up in the past, so obviously some people see it as a problem, but I'm not one of them....

 

[Dreamerr]

I really don't see the problem. So what if some of the solo stems fit a little loose. Unless you hold it upside down and shake it, the stems not going anywhere. Moreover, With the PVHES Stems, the airflow is great , you can get huge clouds and not to mention very medicated. IMO, having a slightly loose stem does not hinder performance at all and is not a big issue to me. However, the issue has been brought up in the past, so obviously some people see it as a problem, but I'm not one of them....

Here is my reason, one it comes out if using it in bed, two and more important it comes out when you are upright if it sticks to your dry lips. Well they are both important to me.

 

[kingofnull]

this one looks nice too:

I think that's a glycerin tube.

 

[michaelstone]

I think that's a glycerin tube.

idk says

"Liquid chilled tube 18mm
Take the harshness out of a hot hit, and cool it with this liquid chilled, black light reactive tube w/ 18mm phat female joint. Can be used with vapes and other glass adapters and accessories."

 

[VaPeD&CoNfUsEd]

It's just a glycerine filled tube to put in the freezer. There's no liquid filtration taking place at all.

 

[michaelstone]

oh lol that sucks then....

 

[Chill Dude]

Here is my reason, one it comes out if using it in bed, two and more important it comes out when you are upright if it sticks to your dry lips. Well they are both important to me.

That's weird, I've never had my stem come out even once. Sorry you're having problems with it. I guess everyone's experience is different......

 

[olivianewtonjohn]

I'd have to say without a doubt it's way hotter, wouldn't you? It's between a SS wall and a load of herb, both of which are 400F near enough. That's WAY above the typical 160F of domestic hot water.

I agree, 'worst case' is the metric here.

How much of a risk that is, each guy gets to pick for himself. But my experience around vapes is some guys can be extremely demanding. I'll be happy to lay out what I see and let folks decide on this one I guess, I'm sure not going to try to reason with some of the guys who take safety way more seriously than I do.

OF

Hmmmm not sure if we are talking about the same thing? I use the oring which goes on top of the factory (teflon?) ring and in between the cap. This part does not get even close to 400 degrees because I can put my finger on it an leave it there (after it has been sitting @7 for awhile.

 

[ataxian]

$99

Those are easy to find at Smoke Shops that have glass:
I got this one so it's not so high:
$24.00 and no shipping! (ASH CATCHER):

I like the one you posted and it's worth $99 since you can use it right off the SOLO.
I'll get one for sure!
The Smoke Shop called PURPLE HAZE has them!
My setup does work and taste so sweet.
I run the VAPOLUTION and the BENDER through it.
Now I need to set up the HERCULES then I'll be set for now.
Water path takes it to a whole new level!

 

[OF]

Hmmmm not sure if we are talking about the same thing? I use the oring which goes on top of the factory (teflon?) ring and in between the cap. This part does not get even close to 400 degrees because I can put my finger on it an leave it there (after it has been sitting @7 for awhile.

I thought we were. I was responding to the specific point you brought up.....the one I quoted?
"One issue I see is when you take the stem out the hottest part will pass through the o-ring. Do I think its hotter than what the oring would experience in normal use?-Probably not."

Specifically, I'm talking about "hottest part [that] will pass through the o-ring".

OF

 

[olivianewtonjohn]

I thought we were. I was responding to the specific point you brought up.....the one I quoted?
"One issue I see is when you take the stem out the hottest part will pass through the o-ring. Do I think its hotter than what the oring would experience in normal use?-Probably not."

Specifically, I'm talking about "hottest part [that] will pass through the o-ring".

OF

I see that makes sense. How are you liking your solo so far? It got me and 3 others vaped out. Used alittle kief and two bowls later people were falling asleep on the floor and I was getting some crazy tunnel vision and felt like I could feel the earths rotation. It was like I was on brownies

 

[Yoshi]

I'd just like to go over my SS screen mod, as to increase airflow.

I found that tugging on this thing wasn't cutting it, and I have heard of tintest's SS disk mod so I thought I'd use my Da Buddha screen to raise the glass sitting on top of the holes. I haven't gotten to test it thoroughly, but it seems to increase airflow and have no negative impact on vapor production, so why not?

Here's a picture:

 

[Dreamerr]

So it is shoved down but not quit to the bottom or is it all the way down?

 

[Frederick McGuire]

So is the DBV screen trimmed, or domed in there, because I wouldn't've though it would fit otherwise.
Pretty cool idea

 

[Yoshi]

So it is shoved down but not quit to the bottom?

It's all the way to the bottom. Screens already have a set thickness, it only needs an extra millimeter or two to increase the airflow. It's basically the concept of people lifting their stems to increase airflow, as to not let the glass sit right on the holes, but it's always going to be a millimeter or two off of the screen. Also, no more charred herbs!

Edit to Fred: I literally plopped it in there, no trimming necessary. Although it might be a bitch to get out, though () , but I don't see any reason to take it out other than to clean so I'll figure out how to get it out in due time.

 

[Dreamerr]

That is getting done tomorrow if I can stand to wait that long. I wonder, but doubt it, if it will stop the little bit that gets through the holes

I have to find the right size screen but I will cut if I have to.