Arizer Solo

[ru_frothi]

1. restrictive draw but really not many.
2. according to arizer no changes. They are always evolving their products.
3. yes I bought one for $155 from amazon and it was stinky and arizer replaced it no problem. (have bought 4 total, all frrom amazon or ebay)
4. I get 8-10 frrom 0.05g
5. $95 from arizer but DIY should be cheap and easy. see the thread here for more info.
6. $45
7. no it shuts off after 12 minutes and you turn it back on.
8. the sounds can be disabled

all this and more in the solo thread here.

thx for the reply, i know there is a great thread about it, but its kind of hard to find exactly the answer you are looking for when the search button just redirects you to the thread an not a specific page i did some reading on the first few pages, but i had no idea where to begin reading after that since it is quite a lot of info.

For question 5&6 : do you have to buy battery and charger from arizer, or will other models work too? and when using an adapter, does it impact the battery life in any way?

The only thing that is stopping me from buying it is that it stops after 12 minutes. I just like to take a few tokes whenever i feel like it without having to keep an eye on the time so the unit doesn't shut off. I see how this is good for preserving battery life, but it would have been more convenient to just set it at the '1' temp when it isn't being used.
If for example i change the temp setting after 10 minutes , will it still shut down 2 minutes later?

get a vape with a cord then would be my advice.

the unit shuts after 12 minutes regardless.

search function will show posts if you select the correct option. There is a tutorial here on using it.

 

[Greenscreen]

feel bad for the european folks having to deal with shipping issues across the pond.

Am UK based, and recently couldn't take the smell any longer and spoke to arizer about replacement, they said they would swap my solo if i send it back to them... they then later told me to make it easier for me they were going to pass me on to their UK company called Goodgets who would sort the situation for me. I contacted them but they said they were due to shut for 4 weeks in 3 days time, giving me no time to send mine off to them.

I was going to send it off when they're back but from reading the last few posts on this thread the new units don't sound much better, seems very much a game of stick or twist.. i might just stick, my unit stinks but if a new one is gonna smell more then i'd rather keep my ceramic m104..

poor show by Arizer with the solo to be honest... (still love my Q though until cloud that is!)

 

[MrNorml]

I have a few questions concerning the solo from arizer. I know there is a gigantic thread about it, but i didn't feel like plowing trough 168 pages since my search terms mostly redirected me to that one thread.

1. What are the downsides of this vape in your opinion?thx for your insight!

Are you going to use this as a primary unit, or something to take out and about? That should be your starting point I would think, although the Solo can act as a daily driver but not as versatile as e.g. Extreme Q which can do bags, blow smoke your way, stay hot for hours, etc. most of which you already have without worry about new batteries, etc. But I'm not dragging my Q around from place to place - it sits where it lives.
If out and about, upside of the Solo is long battery life and lots of really big hits on one charge. I get easily 5 sessions before even beginning to be concerned about batteries (haven't run out yet). Downside is you are carrying a piece of glass around which could break; it isn't 'stealthy' in terms of e.g. using it at a movie theatre or in a restaurant bathroom because couple minutes warm-up, filling stem, putting stem into unit, then hitting on an obvious inhalation device which is going to smell. Upside - you can carry it and charger out to friend's house easily, then share it with them easily. Basically zero learning curve, but don't hold by glass. Works well. Quiet. Beeps on/off user dependent. Timer 12 minutes to save battery life, not able to over-ride that. Beep lets you know of shut-off so you can turn it back on if you need. Variable temperature is a nice plus. Glass can potentially fall out. Some complain of taste/smell issues; others don't. Can be hard to draw upon - some have modified glass to provide more air intake. It isn't perfect but nothing is. It is a good solid portable. As good as anything I've tried, and better than many. Has issues, the stem is my issue. I haven't found a portable that doesn't have issues.
If pure stealth is the objective, consider the MFLB. But then you have to carry a gross of batteries. Otherwise I'd suggest looking at either the Solo or Iolite. Iolite is IMHO more 'stealthy' and more 'carry-able' but the Solo does give more vapor it seems and hopefully the Solo is very long-term reliable.

 

[Vaped Ape]

1. Horrible taste, headaches, questionable materials, robotic fart smells. Those are all my personal experiences and not everyone is going to end up with a horrible one like mine, but the fact is some do.

I used to love it, now I hate it and got rid of mine and the warranty replacement. I don't trust the vape itself or the company anymore after my experiences.

My advice is to go to the search function, search for all posts by darkrom, read the Arizer/Solo related posts, and then decide how much credence to give this opinion.

@Darkrom

In your defense would you consider reposting your personal story from back on July 28, 2010 here on FC?? This would help some of the new members here to understand your position in life and maybe even help others in a similar situation. I hope things have improved for you in the past few months.

Da Ape

 

[pakalolo]

1. Horrible taste, headaches, questionable materials, robotic fart smells. Those are all my personal experiences and not everyone is going to end up with a horrible one like mine, but the fact is some do.

I used to love it, now I hate it and got rid of mine and the warranty replacement. I don't trust the vape itself or the company anymore after my experiences.

My advice is to go to the search function, search for all posts by darkrom, read the Arizer/Solo related posts, and then decide how much credence to give this opinion.

@Darkrom

In your defense would you consider reposting your personal story from back in July 2010 here on FC. This would help some of the new members here to understand your position in life and maybe even help others in a similar situation. I hope things have improved for you in the past few months.

Da Ape

I posted that precisely to try to prevent exactly what you suggest. How would repeating everything be better than doing what I suggested? This thread has been derailed enough.

 

[darkrom]

1. Horrible taste, headaches, questionable materials, robotic fart smells. Those are all my personal experiences and not everyone is going to end up with a horrible one like mine, but the fact is some do.

I used to love it, now I hate it and got rid of mine and the warranty replacement. I don't trust the vape itself or the company anymore after my experiences.

My advice is to go to the search function, search for all posts by darkrom, read the Arizer/Solo related posts, and then decide how much credence to give this opinion.

Yes you will see my obviously scam posts right?

http://www.fuckcombustion.com/viewtopic.php?pid=142624#p142624

"You CAN disable all sounds completely. I forget how, but I did it. It's listed in the manual. Right now my only issues with this vape are based on the stem itself, which could easily be re-designed and replaced cheap.

JoeFinny broke his stem putting in a screen slightly too big and forcing. I still get small scooby snacks with my screen that is too small. I guess I just need goldylocks to come cut me a screen that is just right.

I give this vape itself a 9/10 so far, and the stems a 7/10. Overall VERY impressed. If I broke mine today, I'd be ordering a new one within 2 weeks. It is already my daily driver. I'm even considering selling my DBV now since I find the effects to be comparable."



http://www.fuckcombustion.com/viewtopic.php?pid=142491#p142491


"I'm pretty damn sure the battery IS easily replaceable without even looking. It's gotta be 1 or 2 plugs max. You can only make hooking up a positive and negative terminal so difficult.

As far as the $100 thing being a downside, I can tell you having used the solo 3-4x so far (thanks finny!) and using mine for a quick test run, the vape is astounding. I prefer it to my MFLB and the jury is still out deciding if I like it better than DBV too. They all have pros and cons, but my first kneejerk reaction is to shout "this is the best vape I've ever used so far". I have used my fair share of vaporizers.

Stay tuned for my results of testing and experimentation with this vape. I'd buy a new one at full retail price every 2 years for the rest of my life if I had to.

I'd say the efficiency is unmatched by ANY vape I've ever used. It's worth noting that the only style I've never tried are the log vapes. I know they are really efficient. If I can get an accurate scale I'll let you know how much I used to produce lots of vapor, but by eyeballing I'd guess 1/30th - 1/50th of a gram. This was my way of testing the absolute bare minimum. I went for something so small that I expected to simply inhale the whole speck I put in, instead large clouds while vaping at a 3 heat setting.

I only hope Lwein tries this thing out so I can compare it to the log vapes. I view him as the king of the logs.

Much more to come."




You will notice that when I first got this vape I LOVED it, and I still agree it is very good at extraction. My issues came up afterwards and are severe IMO. I think it is perfectly clear to anyone who actually does what YOU just said to do, that I am about as legitimate as it gets. If I was some shill or something shady I wouldn't have given it such high praise originally. I review vapes as honestly as humanly possible. When I'm loving something I tell people, but if I start to hate the experience suddenly I'm the bad guy? Its like feeling strongly about how awesome I thought it was at the time was fair and great, but as soon as I stopped enjoying the vape I am a jerk for mentioning my issues? They are valid issues. SOME but not all are addressed by Arizer. That is the whole point of the forums. Just because my experience flip flopped doesn't mean yours will, but there is no reason to be personally upset with me for being vocal on a vaporizer discussion site when I think the product has issues worth mentioning to someone asking for opinions on the product.

 

[Vaped Ape]

^^^ Pakalolo I see your point but I thought you could have put it a little softer.

I was one who jumped him way back when and now that I know more about Darkrom and his MMJ needs I have been able to accept where he is coming from. Not my intent to derail the posts here but rather to be compassionate about others on the forum that might be on another page so to speak. We all have a story to tell. I give it to him for being open.

Back to the Solo specific and the general discussion on vaping with the Solo.

Da Ape

 

[mari]

Just tried cigarrette filter cut in half and stuck it in my homemade stem for a screen. Works great in case you are out of the real thing!

 

[Lostclusters]

Jens:

Some units smell. This is mainly to do with a small circuit board under the bowl assembly. There is flux on it that was not cleaned away when it was assembled. Denatured alcohol and a half dozen or so Q-tips should take care of that.

I would not use the Solo as your main/party vape. I believe the twelve minute cycle is there to prevent the bowl assembly from melting, or causing to off gas, a flimsy plastic plate between the bowl assembly and the battery (very poor idea in my opinion). Arizer has said this is all made of a mica substance. I agree that most of the stuff there is. Except the plate I mentioned. I posted about this a few pages back. I had mine apart and a few seconds with a lighter and I melted it pretty good. It is VERY close the mica block around the bowl (underneath) which gets hot enough to hurt the back of finger on a setting of 4 (m105). I can post a picture if Arizer dispute this.

The Solo (cleaned) makes a great portable/casual vape. In that capacity I think the Solo is the most efficient vape I have ever used. Kept to one twelve minute cycle. After a half hour to forty-five minutes it would probably safe to use again. In my opinion I would not worry about the battery. If you are still using it when it needs one, worry about it then. With casual use the battery with last you a long time. I use my SS one more now that is clean and does not smell any more.

 

[mari]

I would not use the Solo as your main/party vape.

That is your personal preference, and is fine to share.

Kept to one twelve minute cycle. After a half hour to forty-five minutes it would probably safe to use again.

This is pure speculation to imply that the Solo is unsafe.

 

[tokinginger]

Mine dies after less than 2 hours of use. I don't always use it for the full 12 minutes, but it dies out around 90 min (meaning 1 light when turned on). Is this normal? I was under the impression that the battery was to last 3-4 hours. I have an M105

 

[Jens]

thx for al the replys guys

i'm still kind of doubting due to the size of it. I have used an mflb but that just didn't provide satisfactory hits for me. I'm used to the larger tokes from a da buddha so thats (kind of) what i'm looking for here as well.
Are there any pictures comparing it to a redbull can on here? I heard the comparison being used alot but couldn't find a picture when typing solo rebull can in the search button.

(it just redirects me to this thread. Can anyone perhaps explain how i find the page the search is directing me to ? When i just click on the name of the thread after using the search button, page 1 opens and there is no indication on what page i should be)

also this wouldn't be my daily driver since my da buddha is, i would like something more portable because taking my buddha to a friends house is kind of a drag.

If you 'got busted' with your solo in public, what would you say it is so you do not to look suspicious?

thx for all the input!

 

[Frederick McGuire]

Are there any pictures comparing it to a redbull can on here? I heard the comparison being used alot but couldn't find a picture when typing solo rebull can in the search button.

Here ya go.

 

[Jens]

thx, it's smaller than i imagined it to be, stealth might not be so 'bad' as i tought!

 

[mari]

thx for al the replys guys
i'm still kind of doubting due to the size of it. I have used an mflb but that just didn't provide satisfactory hits for me. I'm used to the larger tokes from a da buddha so thats (kind of) what i'm looking for here as well.

The largest hits i have gotten from a portable have been from the VaporGenie coil.

The Arizer Solo chamber measures 11 mm diameter (inner) by 10mm deep equaling 691 cubic millimeters or 0.7 cl volume. This is smaller than the VG coil, but larger than the effective material volume on the MFLB. Heating this up to temperature (evenly) and then passing heated air through it will vapoise the material, up to the point when you want to stop.

If you require your vaporisation experience to be PUNISHING, I would suggest the VG over the Solo.

 

[Jens]

thx for al the replys guys
i'm still kind of doubting due to the size of it. I have used an mflb but that just didn't provide satisfactory hits for me. I'm used to the larger tokes from a da buddha so thats (kind of) what i'm looking for here as well.

The largest hits i have gotten from a portable have been from the VaporGenie coil.

The Arizer Solo chamber measures 11 mm diameter (inner) by 10mm deep equaling 691 cubic millimeters or 0.7 cl volume. This is smaller than the VG coil, but larger than the effective material volume on the MFLB. Heating this up to temperature (evenly) and then passing heated air through it will vapoise the material, up to the point when you want to stop.

If you require your vaporisation experience to be PUNISHING, I would suggest the VG over the Solo.

i don't want it to be punishing, but i also don't want it to take too much time. The thing holding me off from buying a vaporgenie is the fact that it apparently goes trough lighters really fast. I will take it into consideration tho since it only costs $40 (wich makes me wonder about quality and efficiency)

 

[ru_frothi]

Mine dies after less than 2 hours of use. I don't always use it for the full 12 minutes, but it dies out around 90 min (meaning 1 light when turned on). Is this normal? I was under the impression that the battery was to last 3-4 hours. I have an M105

perfectly normal. I'm sure on setting 1 or something it lasts 4 hours. with real use around 8-12 10 minute cycles for me.

 

[ru_frothi]

thx for al the replys guys
i'm still kind of doubting due to the size of it. I have used an mflb but that just didn't provide satisfactory hits for me. I'm used to the larger tokes from a da buddha so thats (kind of) what i'm looking for here as well.

The largest hits i have gotten from a portable have been from the VaporGenie coil.

The Arizer Solo chamber measures 11 mm diameter (inner) by 10mm deep equaling 691 cubic millimeters or 0.7 cl volume. This is smaller than the VG coil, but larger than the effective material volume on the MFLB. Heating this up to temperature (evenly) and then passing heated air through it will vapoise the material, up to the point when you want to stop.

If you require your vaporisation experience to be PUNISHING, I would suggest the VG over the Solo.

i don't want it to be punishing, but i also don't want it to take too much time. The thing holding me off from buying a vaporgenie is the fact that it apparently goes trough lighters really fast. I will take it into consideration tho since it only costs $40 (wich makes me wonder about quality and efficiency)

The Solo is nothing like the MFLB. I have an MFLB. first was replaced becsuse it ran too cool. I think #2 does as well but after months of playing, new batteries, being chastised on this forum, and reading FAQ's after 10 minutes of puffing on that silly box I can barely medicate. Solo pulled out of the box and 10 minutes later was ripped. This thing is way more effective than the MFLB in delivering a larger dose in a short amount of time.

 

[Frederick McGuire]

The Solo is nothing like the MFLB. I have an MFLB. first was replaced becsuse it ran too cool. I think #2 does as well but after months of playing, new batteries, being chastised on this forum, and reading FAQ's after 10 minutes of puffing on that silly box I can barely medicate. Solo pulled out of the box and 10 minutes later was ripped. This thing is way more effective than the MFLB in delivering a larger dose in a short amount of time.

This sums up both my opinion of the MFLB and the Solo.

 

[Vaped Ape]

Mine dies after less than 2 hours of use. I don't always use it for the full 12 minutes, but it dies out around 90 min (meaning 1 light when turned on). Is this normal? I was under the impression that the battery was to last 3-4 hours. I have an M105

The partial sessions you mention sort of cloud the battery assessments a bit. If you are concerned I would set down with a fully charged Solo and make sure it is set up to beep. Then turn it on and see how long it takes to heat to say 5. Then jot that down on a notepad. Stay on 5 as that is a good average and then run full 12 min cycles documenting the time on each one until it runs down to idle and total it up. The beep will help you get good data. Henceforth try not to let it get down so low the charge lite comes on. Never let it get so low that you don't even see the charge lite.

It is important when you are taking down your notes that you do not load it and hit it and then that way you will get your best baseline numbers. You should get 8-10 cycles of 12 min. That would be about 1.5 hrs of steady usage but remember that also equals at least 1 bowl for each session and that is a shit load of herb. I can sometimes get two bowls out of a session, depends on the herb.

The higher the temps the more battery you will use. You did not say what temp you vape on. I like 4-5.

Da Ape

 

[Vaped Ape]

Mine dies after less than 2 hours of use. I don't always use it for the full 12 minutes, but it dies out around 90 min (meaning 1 light when turned on). Is this normal? I was under the impression that the battery was to last 3-4 hours. I have an M105

The partial sessions you mention sort of cloud the battery assessments a bit. If you are concerned I would set down with a fully charged Solo and make sure it is set up to beep. Then turn it on and see how long it takes to heat to say 5. Then jot that down on a notepad. Stay on 5 as that is a good average and then run full 12 min cycles documenting the time on each one until it runs down to idle and total it up. The beep will help you get good data. Henceforth try not to let it get down so low the charge lite comes on. NEVER let it get so low that you don't even see the charge lite.

It is important when you are taking down your notes that you do not load it and hit it and then that way you will get your best baseline numbers. You should get 8-10 cycles of 12 min. That would be about 1.5 hrs of steady usage but remember that also equals at least 1 bowl for each session and that is a shit load of herb. I can sometimes get two bowls out of a session, depends on the herb.

The higher the temps the more battery you will use. You did not say what temp you vape on. I like 4-5.

Da Ape

 

[Lostclusters]

I would not use the Solo as your main/party vape.

That is your personal preference, and is fine to share.

Kept to one twelve minute cycle. After a half hour to forty-five minutes it would probably safe to use again.

This is pure speculation to imply that the Solo is unsafe.

So, it is safe to have plastic exposed to temperatures that could at least cause off gassing in the air path? Yes you are probably right about the speculation. But I would also speculate that if I was hit by a car I would suffer some sort of injury.

The Solo has plastic in the air path. Plastic that melts easily. The "smell" everyone here is posting about comes from below this plastic. It is in the air path. You can either stick you head in the sand and pretend it is not so or take the appropriate precautions. The proof is in the hands of every Solo owner. Look for yourself.

 

[tokinginger]

Mine dies after less than 2 hours of use. I don't always use it for the full 12 minutes, but it dies out around 90 min (meaning 1 light when turned on). Is this normal? I was under the impression that the battery was to last 3-4 hours. I have an M105

The partial sessions you mention sort of cloud the battery assessments a bit. If you are concerned I would set down with a fully charged Solo and make sure it is set up to beep. Then turn it on and see how long it takes to heat to say 5. Then jot that down on a notepad. Stay on 5 as that is a good average and then run full 12 min cycles documenting the time on each one until it runs down to idle and total it up. The beep will help you get good data. Henceforth try not to let it get down so low the charge lite comes on. Never let it get so low that you don't even see the charge lite.

It is important when you are taking down your notes that you do not load it and hit it and then that way you will get your best baseline numbers. You should get 8-10 cycles of 12 min. That would be about 1.5 hrs of steady usage but remember that also equals at least 1 bowl for each session and that is a shit load of herb. I can sometimes get two bowls out of a session, depends on the herb.

The higher the temps the more battery you will use. You did not say what temp you vape on. I like 4-5.

Da Ape

I vape at 4, unless the bud has given up the ghost at 4 and then I bump to 7 to get the most out of it.

 

[mari]

Plastic that melts easily.

Where are the pics of melted Solos?

 

[Kaptan]

Plastic that melts easily.

Where are the pics of melted Solos?

None have ever been posted.