Arizer Solo

[Buzzbomb Almighty]

Hello
I see you have a damaged solo ... you do not want to try my idea for free. I need someone who has it so damaged.
kilrtjat
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That looks like good work, did you program that into a CNC milling machine? It doesn't look like it would fit into a charging dock, but not many people have those anyway. I have 3 Solos, but the bottom is fine on all of them so far, no chips. I tried them, but don't see the need for any 0-rings and don't screw the top on tight, so hopefully I will never need one of your inventions, but thank you for offering them. Seeing people willing to help others out of the goodness of their hearts is reassuring. There were a few people on here who had broken corners on their bottom plates so did any of them contact you? If the add-on model is legal maybe you could buzz up a batch and make a deal with Arizer or one of the authorised dealers to offer is as an after-market fix.

 

[lookhigh]

I dont think Arizer would take up on that. Would be like admitting there is a problem with the bottoms. Never had any chipping on mine.

 

[Buzzbomb Almighty]

I dont think Arizer would take up on that. Would be like admitting there is a problem with the bottoms. Never had any chipping on mine.

From what's been posted on here I think tightening down on o-rings causes it (at least partially), so I stopped using them after a very short time. Even pinched and slotted o-rings provide some resistance, keep the cap from seating snugly and cause the user to keep tightening it (my take), and I'd rather just hang onto a stem with my finger if it's loose, and they aren't all loose. Agracan throws a couple of o-rings in a Solo kit now, but the Arizer international shop doesn't show any so they'd have no reason to accept liability for damage, especially if they put something in the instructions about not torquing the cap down onto the works. I like the look of those milled 'over the bottom' caps better than little washers, so if any of mine were damaged like that I'd probably want one.

 

[OF]

keep the cap from seating snugly and cause the user to keep tightening it (my take),

but the Arizer international shop doesn't show any so they'd have no reason to accept liability for damage, especially if they put something in the instructions about not torquing the cap down onto the works.

I think you're exactly right. Despite careful instructions otherwise guys started bragging on this here very forum about their prowess at gronking down hard to make the stem as tight as they thought it should be. Despite the ongoing warnings, this persisted. The ring was never intended to make the stem 'good and tight again', it was to stop the bent one from rotating....... Yet, guys would boast of being able to use the stem as a handle (again) getting the sheep to think this was a good thing. Sad, really.

I do, however, think you missed/forgot an important point about Arizer and warranty, they are on record here (several times?) at not considering the tabs essential to normal operation.....that is they (the tabs) are not covered under warranty no matter how you break them. We've discussed this before. The tabs are part of the main structure of Solo. "Everything" attaches to it. The PCB, the oven assembly, the front panel and display. Even the serial number. Not a simple part you can 'just replace' really.

I still stand by the ring in it's original use. But due caution got lost in the face of 'I read it on the web'....... Al Gore made at least one big error in inventing the Internet. It made it too easy for us to get together using fake names, pool our collective ignorance, and put it forth as 'expert advice'. We should, I think, remain vigilant about this. Question the advice given, why should you put more value on it when it comes by the web? IMO that calls for more 'vetting', not less.

OF

 

[lookhigh]

For sure you have to wade through some amount of crap to find a factual answer to a question on the net. Never felt the need to use the o ring, no broken tabs. word.

 

[OF]

For sure you have to wade through some amount of crap to find a factual answer to a question on the net.

Exactly so. And I would suggest that same idea holds true for life, only the scales change some? It's left to us to 'separate the wheat from the chaff'. Our responsibility if we want useful information for important decisions.

The net absolves us (at least in our minds?) of some of that responsibility by the assumption it's probably right which comes immediately before "it must be right, I read it on the web".

And while life is kind of a serial, one problem at a time deal with some time for reflection, the web brings new data at the speed of light.

IMO one of the great strengths of this Forum is the way we kind of watch out for the new guys and help each other identify what really works and what doesn't. We try to find a consensus of what is real (whatever that is.....) and not let random opinion pass as 'proven science'. Pooling our understanding and insights and even improving results from time to time.

And no name calling.......except @ataxian of course.

OF

 

[kellya86]

So just to confirm here, will I be fine taking an arizer solo on a British airways flight to Chicago, in hand luggage ???

 

[ataxian]

So just to confirm here, will I be fine taking an arizer solo on a British airways flight to Chicago, in hand luggage ???

Just have one ordered and delivered to your HOTEL ROOM. But don't listen to me. I'm afraid of my shadow.

TRUST?

@lookhigh some crack and some don't?

 

[kellya86]

Just have one ordered and delivered to your HOTEL ROOM. But don't listen to me. I'm afraid of my shadow.

TRUST?

But then I may not be able to bring it home anyway....
If it gets taken I'll buy a solo2, but I won't let it go easy....
I can't see that it's any more potentially harmfull than a power bar..
Was hoping @OF could confirm that the batteries are allowed at least...

Its just a vaporizer eh????

 

[OF]

Just have one ordered and delivered to your HOTEL ROOM. But don't listen to me. I'm afraid of my shadow.

TRUST?

With da man here. It should pass muster, but is the risk worth it? For sure it should not be used/contaminated in any way. The longer it's looked at (let alone handled) buy the Blue Meanies the bigger the real risk becomes. A random security guy looking over another's shoulder as he looks at it saying 'hey, don't they smoke pot in those?' could well be a life changing adventure even if he's dead wrong on the smoking part. And tiny bits can be found, to me this means new. I'd even go so far as to gift wrap it, put a 'Happy Birthday' card on it and have a plausible story handy.

I tend to be on the 'better safe than sorry' bus....usually near the emergency exit.

Remember what no less an authority than Doctor Johnny Fever (WKRP in Cincinnati) said, "everyone is out to get you, paranoia is just good thinking".

Your call, but as @ataxian says, for mere money you can avoid the risk? Peace mind has real value.

OF

Edit:

But then I may not be able to bring it home anyway....
If it gets taken I'll buy a solo2, but I won't let it go easy....
I can't see that it's any more potentially harmfull than a power bar..
Was hoping @OF could confirm that the batteries are allowed at least...

Its just a vaporizer eh????

I think I did, more or less? As a device it's probably OK.....eventually. It's much more likely to raise question/suspicion than a cell phone or similar common product. The very minute it's connected to 'e-cigs' (which it will if they persist) problems go up a LOT. For sure don't carry it on board, check it at least?

I tend to take a wider view of these sorts of things, no telling what sort/level of security person you can run into. Lots of ambitious folks, some with issues, and lots of marginal/unpredictable sorts in the front lines. It can go bad fast, even before stuff with Li-ions started causing problems in public. "Just a vaporizer" can get you to answering questions you don't want, remember drug paraphernalia is a Federal bust, in play in airplanes even between states. "Tell me about your vaporizer...." is something I'd like to avoid 'at any cost' (well at least way more than the price of a Solo....original or Solo II).

Your call, your risk. If you want advice, I'm with Brother A, sidestep the risk.

Enjoy your trip.

OF

 

[lookhigh]

I brought mine before in Europe. Was giving a bag search and swab test. They looked at most stuff except the vape? I did sweat a Little.
Now i would bring my VapCap and buy a lighter on arrival.

 

[kellya86]

Thanks @OF...

I thought it cant go in checked baggage as li batteries are banned...???

And I was unaware of drug paraphernalia being illegal..

Some stuff to think about...
I don't wanna come to the land of choice, armed with only a vapcap for taste...

Surely if I bring some lavender I can blag it as an aromatherapy device, which is what it's sold as...

 

[ataxian]

With da man here. It should pass muster, but is the risk worth it? For sure it should not be used/contaminated in any way. The longer it's looked at (let alone handled) buy the Blue Meanies the bigger the real risk becomes. A random security guy looking over another's shoulder as he looks at it saying 'hey, don't they smoke pot in those?' could well be a life changing adventure even if he's dead wrong on the smoking part. And tiny bits can be found, to me this means new. I'd even go so far as to gift wrap it, put a 'Happy Birthday' card on it and have a plausible story handy.

I tend to be on the 'better safe than sorry' bus....usually near the emergency exit.

Remember what no less an authority than Doctor Johnny Fever (WKRP in Cincinnati) said, "everyone is out to get you, paranoia is just good thinking".

Your call, but as @ataxian says, for mere money you can avoid the risk? Peace mind has real value.

OF

Edit:


I think I did, more or less? As a device it's probably OK.....eventually. It's much more likely to raise question/suspicion than a cell phone or similar common product. The very minute it's connected to 'e-cigs' (which it will if they persist) problems go up a LOT. For sure don't carry it on board, check it at least?

I tend to take a wider view of these sorts of things, no telling what sort/level of security person you can run into. Lots of ambitious folks, some with issues, and lots of marginal/unpredictable sorts in the front lines. It can go bad fast, even before stuff with Li-ions started causing problems in public. "Just a vaporizer" can get you to answering questions you don't want, remember drug paraphernalia is a Federal bust, in play in airplanes even between states. "Tell me about your vaporizer...." is something I'd like to avoid 'at any cost' (well at least way more than the price of a Solo....original or Solo II).

Your call, your risk. If you want advice, I'm with Brother A, sidestep the risk.

Enjoy your trip.

OF

@OF I appreciate you expert thoughts!
I only grew 5 acres at a time in my 20's.
At least we KILLED the MALE PLANT's.

I travel the WORLD and just sent stuff to my room.

Maybe it's just a cultural thing?

I'll stay out of LEGAL issues.

Sorry!

OUTDOOR SOLO GROW = CIVILIZED

 

[Jambi619]

Having some issues with my Solo. Reddit says to just take it apart or bang it on a table, but figured I'd ask FC in case there's a better solution.

The symptoms: The blue idle light flickers constantly. When I plug it in the idle and 7 light just blink in an alternating pattern.

I Reached out to Arizer and they suggested I reset it but plugging it in, holding both buttons for a few seconds, and then unplugging it. That did nothing.

In case it helps, I had trouble with the standard charger at some point, but started using the old AC brick adapters they had to get them to run while on the charger, QILI POWER class 2 power supply, 8.5v output.

Any help is greatly appreciated

 

[lemmeadem]

Hey y'all, we need a migration into the Solo 2 thread because I'm craving the FC ferver I need to evaluate my next purchase.

 

[OF]

Having some issues with my Solo. Reddit says to just take it apart or bang it on a table, but figured I'd ask FC in case there's a better solution.

The symptoms: The blue idle light flickers constantly. When I plug it in the idle and 7 light just blink in an alternating pattern.

"Spit in the back, and whomp it a good 'un!"? There's technical expertise worth perusing...... After a couple of brief forays there and other 'lesser forums' I confined myself to FC, thanks for reminding me why.

I've never seen this so have no personal experience to offer. I do think, however, we've 'heard this before'? I think it was a battery failure (something like a shorted cell in the pack preventing charging past 4.2 Volts, short of the normal 8.4 typical of Solo)? Hopefully someone with better memory or more useful experience with 'chime in'?

But let's back up a bit? This is not a new unit, right? How was the battery life doing before it packed it in?

TIA

Hey y'all, we need a migration into the Solo 2 thread because I'm craving the FC ferver I need to evaluate my next purchase.

Not sure what you mean, there is a Solo II thread thriving 'as we speak', right? Lots of 'I can't wait for mine', a repeat of the 'conduction/convection' discussions we've had here and on several other threads, 'this thing is smaller than I expected' and so on. By all means join in the fun there if you're interested. Guys are just getting the first ones delivered confirming fancy display, same stems, faster heat up and longer battery life.....if that sort of stuff interests you, it's over there right now.

However, I think it's only fair to keep this thread active while there's interest in this product? Folks will naturally go where they're interested......

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/arizer-solo-ii.23703/

OF

 

[lemmeadem]

"Spit in the back, and whomp it a good 'un!"? There's technical expertise worth perusing...... After a couple of brief forays there and other 'lesser forums' I confined myself to FC, thanks for reminding me why.

I've never seen this so have no personal experience to offer. I do think, however, we've 'heard this before'? I think it was a battery failure (something like a shorted cell in the pack preventing charging past 4.2 Volts, short of the normal 8.4 typical of Solo)? Hopefully someone with better memory or more useful experience with 'chime in'?

But let's back up a bit? This is not a new unit, right? How was the battery life doing before it packed it in?

TIA



Not sure what you mean, there is a Solo II thread thriving 'as we speak', right? Lots of 'I can't wait for mine', a repeat of the 'conduction/convection' discussions we've had here and on several other threads, 'this thing is smaller than I expected' and so on. By all means join in the fun there if you're interested. Guys are just getting the first ones delivered confirming fancy display, same stems, faster heat up and longer battery life.....if that sort of stuff interests you, it's over there right now.

However, I think it's only fair to keep this thread active while there's interest in this product? Folks will naturally go where they're interested......

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/arizer-solo-ii.23703/

OF

I'm there already, ye olden timer. And loving it. A little surprised to see the conduction/convection argument still in swing there. I thought that one was dead and buried a time ago!

I was commenting more on the fact that a few pages here and there on the Solo 2 surprised me, being that the original Solo has been touted at times as the best-selling portable... Not to mention a few other threads I've followed quickly toppled over the 50 page mark within a few days of release and under relatively new companies to the vape game.

ALL ABOARD THE HYPE TRAIN.

As an aside I've recently purchased the Solo 2 from Agracan and am waiting for delivery - great company to buy from!

 

[OF]

A little surprised to see the conduction/convection argument still in swing there. I thought that one was dead and buried a time ago!

Not to mention a few other threads I've followed quickly toppled over the 50 page mark within a few days of release and under relatively new companies to the vape game.

ALL ABOARD THE HYPE TRAIN.

I get it, I think. Guys have been 'sold' the idea that conduction is somehow dirty or substandard and is to be avoided if you know what you're doing. Wonder how they got that idea........ 'It's really convection....' comes up in other vapes, too. Ascent comes to mind. And VM (a personal favorite). In fact, there (on VapMan) convection claims (based on the tiny, very thin, brass tubes leading to the inlet (no useful heat capacity to offer) also was coupled to claims of Radiation heating (only possible with a very large temperature difference, Bender has a glowing source.....). Hope springs eternal they say?

You wouldn't be talking about the GH thread by chance? A couple of others come to mind, but I think GH is the champ for thread activity with precious little to back it up besides wild claims, missed deadlines and promises. I understand when they work they do a good job (that is they have the predicted shortcomings but make vapor and are tiny) but reliability seems dicey at best? I don't think we have another vape with a dedicated 'how to fix your broken XXX' thread? I lost interest a year or more back, and have not had interest return. Yet.

These days I try to avoid traffic on the highways and rides on the 'hype train' if I can. Let the others take the ride. If I see a lot of very happy folks around the station, getting off the train with big grins and great stories to tell maybe I'll by a ticket for the next trip?

Regards to all, be their Solos old, new or yet to be.

OF

 

[Buzzbomb Almighty]

Thanks @OF...
And I was unaware of drug paraphernalia being illegal..
Surely if I bring some lavender I can blag it as an aromatherapy device, which is what it's sold as...

There's been trouble at US land crossings, some of their border guards were asking Canadians travelling south if they smoke marijuana, and then refusing them entry if they say yes. Personally, I'd hesitate to carry a vape through the border, even a new one. If you could find someone in Chicago to lend or rent you a Solo while you are in the US I would consider that a better plan.

 

[Jambi619]

"Spit in the back, and whomp it a good 'un!"? There's technical expertise worth perusing...... After a couple of brief forays there and other 'lesser forums' I confined myself to FC, thanks for reminding me why.

I've never seen this so have no personal experience to offer. I do think, however, we've 'heard this before'? I think it was a battery failure (something like a shorted cell in the pack preventing charging past 4.2 Volts, short of the normal 8.4 typical of Solo)? Hopefully someone with better memory or more useful experience with 'chime in'?

But let's back up a bit? This is not a new unit, right? How was the battery life doing before it packed it in?

OF

Bought it in 2013. I sent Arizer a video and they suggested it might be a battery also. I can't really say whether the battery life was diminished since I haven't really used it in a few years, loaned it to a buddy who reported it was having issues. He definitely put it through it's paces! Another friend of mine has a Solo so as long as I get Arizer's blessing I'm gonna try his battery in mine to see if that fixes the issue.

I'll make sure to report back.

 

[OF]

I can't really say whether the battery life was diminished since I haven't really used it in a few years, loaned it to a buddy who reported it was having issues. He definitely put it through it's paces!

I'll make sure to report back.

Makes sense to me now. I'll bet it got run into the mud (until it locked out due to discharge) and got the 'use while charging' treatment when it was most vulnerable over and over until the weaker of the two cells gave up under the abuse. Just enough charge to get through another session again leaving the pack crashed and the weaker cell a bit weaker still.

You might leave it 'trying to charge' for several hours (say overnight?) and see if it's the protection PCB that's hung up. If the 18650 attached to that channel (there are two) is still game enough it could unlock and behave more or less normally.

I believe Arizer pulled the taboo about opening them up when the started selling replacement battery packs......pretty hard to swap them without cracking it open?

I suspect you're going to be 'good to go' once the battery pack is sorted out.

Good luck with it, a working Solo is a useful tool, a dead one not so much.

OF

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Bought it in 2013. I sent Arizer a video and they suggested it might be a battery also. I can't really say whether the battery life was diminished since I haven't really used it in a few years, loaned it to a buddy who reported it was having issues. He definitely put it through it's paces! Another friend of mine has a Solo so as long as I get Arizer's blessing I'm gonna try his battery in mine to see if that fixes the issue.

I'll make sure to report back.

These damn things are so well-built, somewhere in the thread hundreds of pages back a guy managed to run it over with his car and it still worked. If I recall correctly, the Solo will also still work normally without the battery connected but with the unit connected to the power adapter. At least mine did when I checked... years ago... @OF's diagnosis sounds spot-on, it should just be a matter of swapping out the battery pack. Percussive maintenance may be in order, but not yet.

 

[Jambi619]

Makes sense to me now. I'll bet it got run into the mud (until it locked out due to discharge) and got the 'use while charging' treatment when it was most vulnerable over and over until the weaker of the two cells gave up under the abuse. Just enough charge to get through another session again leaving the pack crashed and the weaker cell a bit weaker still.

I bet you're 100% correct about that. I'd be surprised if Arizer has any qualms about me playing with the battery since they offered to sell me a replacement, but you can never be too sure. I work for a weasley cunt who tries to get out of honoring warranties at every turn. Def gonna test it with my friend's before ordering a new pack, and I'll try that long term charging tip to see if it helps resurrect my Solo.

 

[OF]

I work for a weasley cunt who tries to get out of honoring warranties at every turn. Def gonna test it with my friend's before ordering a new pack, and I'll try that long term charging tip to see if it helps resurrect my Solo.

I know that one, mine was a guy, but you never can tell these days.......

Used to drive me nuts, you should treat customers who trusted you honestly and with respect. But some bosses only see 'bottom line'.

Even if you breathe new life in the pack (get lucky with the trickle charge) I'd still plan on replacement as I'm sure you won't get 8 or 10 sessions per charge any longer. But if can be made to limp along it gives you time to make plans.

Good luck with it, sounds like you're on the right track and know what you're doing.

OF

 

[lemmeadem]

I get it, I think. Guys have been 'sold' the idea that conduction is somehow dirty or substandard and is to be avoided if you know what you're doing. Wonder how they got that idea........ 'It's really convection....' comes up in other vapes, too. Ascent comes to mind. And VM (a personal favorite). In fact, there (on VapMan) convection claims (based on the tiny, very thin, brass tubes leading to the inlet (no useful heat capacity to offer) also was coupled to claims of Radiation heating (only possible with a very large temperature difference, Bender has a glowing source.....). Hope springs eternal they say?

You wouldn't be talking about the GH thread by chance? A couple of others come to mind, but I think GH is the champ for thread activity with precious little to back it up besides wild claims, missed deadlines and promises. I understand when they work they do a good job (that is they have the predicted shortcomings but make vapor and are tiny) but reliability seems dicey at best? I don't think we have another vape with a dedicated 'how to fix your broken XXX' thread? I lost interest a year or more back, and have not had interest return. Yet.

These days I try to avoid traffic on the highways and rides on the 'hype train' if I can. Let the others take the ride. If I see a lot of very happy folks around the station, getting off the train with big grins and great stories to tell maybe I'll by a ticket for the next trip?

Regards to all, be their Solos old, new or yet to be.

OF

^.^ VM and convection. I remember that one. And, yeah, I'm not too sure why conduction has taken on a bad name around here recently.

You can cook eggs in the pan or poach them and even though the end result is a little different, you're still getting your eggs (not that the analogy holds water).

And yay - it was the Hopper thread. Probably shouldn't compare the two seeing as they're night and day. I think I recall the Pax 2 and Firefly threads shooting up pretty quick though as well. Wonder if Arizer banks very heavily on marketing or if they just cover their base and gradually build steam.