Arizer Solo

[Quetzalcoatl]

You accuse me of not providing any thing to back this up! I provide a couple of tests to perform , the one that i say to count # of sessions which will take a few days depending on how often you vape and you come back with one your "YOUR" old cut & pastes that you consider to be gospel in just a few minutes with nothing but a few numbers that don't explain battery drain in only a few minutes??
I have been reading this thread every day for a couple years, don't post much , but like to learn, i don't want to get into pissing match but come on! I've mentioned these things as well as others hundreds of pages ago and you don't regard what is being said and come back with one of your misinformed cut& pastes.
Like the o-ring deal, great idea, works awesome! The idea that it needs to be high temp is totally unfounded and not researched at all. I've worked in the industrial industry for years , did a lot of seal work and design. You would need a high temp o-ring if it was going in the stem because that is the only spot that reaches those temps. Here is a test for you, get yourself a digital temperature gun, heat solo up to the highest temp 7 , when it is up to temp have the gun ready, now pull out stem a hit with heat gun, this can be done in a split second, in that split second your going find that those stems will drop a couple hundred degrees in that time!
I do believe your health concerns were real but have no merit , I actually have a drawer full of high temps for planet vape buying Gong's that i don't use because regular o-rings are available anywhere and sizes better suited i run 14 x2 rings, they also have a softer durometer ( rubber hardness). Planet vape only supplies high temp o-rings because they also read this forum. If Ariser was going to put a seal in you can bet that they would use only what was necessary after doing some "Actual" research! And it wouldn't be high temp.
May I suggest that you spend less time cutting & paste and more time doing actual research that may help others rather than misinforming members with your unfounded beliefs. I used to read all your post's for the first couple months thinking you actually did research and knew what your talking about but I soon found out there's a lot of holes in your theories that you stand behind and everyone else is wrong??

Will

Not sure what your background is, but @OF doesn't talk too much about his... he taught this (electrical) stuff for years and worked with it before then... I think he knows what he's doing, his previous posts not only in this thread but in others lead me to believe what he says. You can risk using non-high temp o-rings all you want, I'll skip on that and use something I know will be fine. Take a peek at the current ThermoVape Cera thread and see what kind of experiments he was up to a while ago with it.

I don't have the time or knowledge to replicate his experiments with thermocouples and measuring volts and whatnot, but what he's said has matched my experience



Anyways... hope everyone has a good day. I just remembered a good friend of mine gave me some cannabutter and I still have it in my (mini) fridge... time to get Gucci

 

[esoh]

hey guys, arizer service just got back to me about my solo that fails to reach high temperatures, they sent me this email

i purchased the unit from ebay around 7 months ago, will i not be covered by arizer's warranty because of this? if ya'll figure i still am covered, what documentation should i send them back?



thanks for the help

 

[mystery3m]

i purchased the unit from ebay around 7 months ago, will i not be covered by arizer's warranty because of this? if ya'll figure i still am covered, what documentation should i send them back?
thanks for the help

Just copy them the ebay transaction. You should have a record of that in your ebay account.

 

[esoh]

Just copy them the ebay transaction. You should have a record of that in your ebay account.

thanks, i'll just do that then

 

[GenYHippie]

Hey all question about screens in the solo. I didnt like how the vapir ones fit and they seemed to reduce the amount of times i could use a load so im going back to the looser weave screens. Thing is with the usual ones if i dont pack a good size bowl they slip around. I was thinking i could maybe throw in one or two of those little turtle looking glass screens. Would that be ok in a solo? I figure best of both maybe, smaller loads without the extra fine mesh.

 

[unpro1]

Any idea the average life span the solo has? My batteries show no sign of dieing, even after a year and well over 1000 sessions this thing is a beast. I expect this to basically keep ballin' but I wanna be sure before I buy another portable vape.

 

[OF]

Any idea the average life span the solo has?

Wow! Good question, hard answer. Too much 'it depends' in there I think. Not by just a little bit, either. You can get several times 'normal' life (or several times less) depending on how you treat yours (and some luck perhaps?).

I'd say a reasonable (but conservative) number is 300 cycles, probably some more, if you don't hammer it too hard (keep it charged to the wall, deep discharges, get it hot, that kinda stuff). Average guys taking some care can make this pretty easy I think. At say 8 sessions per cycle, 2500 sessions should be easy to get. I suspect you have some fun days with the old girl ahead.

And it won't crash outright I'd think, you just start getting less and less sessions per cycle (recharge more often) until you replace it or go nuts.

OF

 

[Snappo]

Wow! Good question, hard answer. Too much 'it depends' in there I think. Not by just a little bit, either. You can get several times 'normal' life (or several times less) depending on how you treat yours (and some luck perhaps?).

I'd say a reasonable (but conservative) number is 300 cycles, probably some more, if you don't hammer it too hard (keep it charged to the wall, deep discharges, get it hot, that kinda stuff). Average guys taking some care can make this pretty easy I think. At say 8 sessions per cycle, 2500 sessions should be easy to get. I suspect you have some fun days with the old girl ahead.

And it won't crash outright I'd think, you just start getting less and less sessions per cycle (recharge more often) until you replace it or go nuts.

OF

I have adhered to @OF's advice for the year now that I've had my Solo with regard to o-ring temp grade and battery preservation methods, and I have to say that he's been spot on on all of it, given my experience. My Solo/battery, after 4 weeks of non-use (I've been enjoying my E-Nano & Lotus of late), just cranked up at level 6, and gave me 7 full sessions @ levels 4-7, as always. My Solo performs as well as the first day I got it! The Solo, with the right care and methods of use is a champion performer ...and thanks to @OF, IMO, that will continue to be the case!

 

[Dr. Soxhlet]

poonman said: ↑
Here was my test results using a PA on a Fully Charged new Solo

I used it for a full hour straight on level 7 with the PA . 5 sessions
It didn't tripped the charge sensor , not once .
By that , I mean the green flashing light didn't come on .
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Now, I also was able to keep the green charge light from coming on (even at level 3)by setting the temperature before the green light flashes.
But I notice the charge level goes down.
Does this procedure merely turn on battery power without charging?
Is PA mode being bypassed anyway?
Can anyone else with a newer model Solo and an 8.5 volt 5 amp or more PA run this test also and report back?

 

[poonman]

poonman said: ↑
Here was my test results using a PA on a Fully Charged new Solo

I used it for a full hour straight on level 7 with the PA . 5 sessions
It didn't tripped the charge sensor , not once .
By that , I mean the green flashing light didn't come on .
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Now, I also was able to keep the green charge light from coming on (even at level 3)by setting the temperature before the green light flashes.
But I notice the charge level goes down.
Does this procedure merely turn on battery power without charging?
Is PA mode being bypassed anyway?
Can anyone else with a newer model Solo and an 8.5 volt 5 amp or more PA run this test also and report back?

My next testing , the green charge light came on after 6 session
on straight PA usage .

But I think you may have something , in regards to setting the temp before the charging process kicks in . I will try to be faster
on the next testing ...

I'd unplugged the PA after the charging flashed .
But I shouldn't have , because I wondered what the lights would look like , when it's heating and charging .
ie what if I set the temp at level 4 , but the charging level is at 6 . What would that look like ?

I think @OF said it was just Masking the display of the charging light . Which sounds very plausible , because we know the battery does get drained when using the PA .

Also when I unplug the PA , and there is still some lights left on .
I think it's just some Leftover power circulating in the Solo . jmo

 

[Dr. Soxhlet]

When the Solo is plugged into the PA and heating(red light flashing), it will stay on and continue to flash the heating light when it is unplugged without turning off.. That is why I suspect the PA is not really working? Anyone else try this?

 

[Pipes]

The Solo doesn't turn off when the external power is disconnected until it finishes it's heating cycle.
However, I believe it likely changes it'd power routing internally somehow and switches to battery to complete so it adds to the battery consumption there as well.
A block diagram of the charging and power supply logic would sure be nice. I am still convinced it's all just software controlling the power routing path and mix making the differences between the "old" verses "new" units. With exception to the air path having larger holes.
In which case, Arizer could be making small changes more than we know.
Ideally, you'd think they would keep a benefit of owning an "optional" Power Adapter alive.
Has anyone actually inquired about this with the dealers?
I did find where I saw that letter from Arizer and it does state the new Solo's run in true PA mode when fully charged.
The testing you guys are doing is great and really helps figure out what changes have been made. Keep it coming....

 

[Dr. Soxhlet]

The Solo doesn't turn off when the external power is disconnected until it finishes it's heating cycle.
However, I believe it likely changes it'd power routing internally somehow and switches to battery to complete so it adds to the battery consumption there as well.
A block diagram of the charging and power supply logic would sure be nice. I am still convinced it's all just software controlling the power routing path and mix making the differences between the "old" verses "new" units. With exception to the air path having larger holes.
In which case, Arizer could be making small changes more than we know.
Ideally, you'd think they would keep a benefit of owning an "optional" Power Adapter alive.
Has anyone actually inquired about this with the dealers?
I did find where I saw that letter from Arizer and it does state the new Solo's run in true PA mode when fully charged.
The testing you guys are doing is great and really helps figure out what changes have been made. Keep it coming....

Don't know how I missed that posted letter from Arizer, but that certainly answers the question. At this point I will go back to using my newer model Solo with the PA like I did with my old one before it was replaced. Thanks for linking that.

 

[Propaganja]

hey guys, arizer service just got back to me about my solo that fails to reach high temperatures, they sent me this email

i purchased the unit from ebay around 7 months ago, will i not be covered by arizer's warranty because of this? if ya'll figure i still am covered, what documentation should i send them back?



thanks for the help

Hey esoh, I believe that's the norm reply from arizer service when u need a repair under warranty. U just need receipt of purchase so they know u are the original owner (didn't buy it second hand) and that the receipt date is less than whatever warranty date expires. I'm new to vaping and the solo was my first vape a month ago, and it died last week, sent arizer an email, sent it in last Tuesday, they received it Thursday and sent me A brand new replacement Friday express which got to my postal office the same day, but they don't ship on weekends. They didn't charge me return shipping due to my solo dying under a month of use, and at first they took long to respond, but once u get ur msg through, there service is amazing with there compliments. They don't have any problems helping/replacing your solo as long as u have receipt and are within the warranty. Can't wait to receive my replacement solo tomorrow. I have a feeling it's an m1y. Will keep everyone updated!

 

[OF]

I think @OF said it was just Masking the display of the charging light . Which sounds very plausible , because we know the battery does get drained when using the PA .

I think it's just some Leftover power circulating in the Solo . jmo

Actually that's just an educated guess. It seems reasonable, we've seen it done on other vapes, but I have't tried it out......in fact I've never seen, let alone tested, a new version.

The Solo doesn't turn off when the external power is disconnected until it finishes it's heating cycle.
However, I believe it likely changes it'd power routing internally somehow and switches to battery to complete so it adds to the battery consumption there as well.

Good insight, I'd never tied the timing to anything. Makes sense, it will cycle off in half a minute or less.

I agree, the 'power mix' has to shift from sharing the load when the PA is available to running on battery alone for a bit......absent the magic electricity Poonman suggests...... The battery is the only source of the power obviously being used.

In the end, though, Solos are for making vapor and enjoying. Not worrying about what the numbers might mean to someone else or worrying too much about how it uses electricity.......I'm quite happy to leave it at 'it uses electricity very well' for the most part.

Regards to all......on this the day we pause to reflect 'on she who gave us life'.

OF

 

[tdriver]

a thought about solo's that suddenly die and need replacement......

I have my solo a couple of months , and I have read a few hundred pages back.
I'm in Europe so my worst fear is a bad solo that would need a warranty claim......in the US or Canada..!
I'm thinking every day of this, and how to prevent it (if that is even possible)

It seems there are some units that die after some time, others sooner others later.....
and it is not serial number related, all are affected.
but what is not clear is how these units have been treaded.

if I leave my solo on for 12 minutes it gets kinda hot, so I usually switch it off after I'm done.
that is usually 5-8 draws in about 5 minutes. less than 10 minutes with another person.
this way my solo is only just warm to the touch, not too warm or even hot.
at first I started this to save the battery, but I think less heat inside is better anyway in the long run....

so my thought is:
a solo after say 2-3 12-minute sessions is hot to the touch, and not only where the heater is, but everywhere. can the heat affect the pcb and burn/hurt some components?
I think yes, but I may be all wrong........as I wrote it's just a thought.
am I paranoid? or could there be something to it?

 

[olivianewtonjohn]

a thought about solo's that suddenly die and need replacement......

I have my solo a couple of months , and I have read a few hundred pages back.
I'm in Europe so my worst fear is a bad solo that would need a warranty claim......in the US or Canada..!
I'm thinking every day of this, and how to prevent it (if that is even possible)

It seems there are some units that die after some time, others sooner others later.....
and it is not serial number related, all are affected.
but what is not clear is how these units have been treaded.

if I leave my solo on for 12 minutes it gets kinda hot, so I usually switch it off after I'm done.
that is usually 5-8 draws in about 5 minutes. less than 10 minutes with another person.
this way my solo is only just warm to the touch, not too warm or even hot.
at first I started this to save the battery, but I think less heat inside is better anyway in the long run....

so my thought is:
a solo after say 2-3 12-minute sessions is hot to the touch, and not only where the heater is, but everywhere. can the heat affect the pcb and burn/hurt some components?
I think yes, but I may be all wrong........as I wrote it's just a thought.
am I paranoid? or could there be something to it?

Does arizer have someone who does warranty service in Europe like vapefiend? I never worry about heat and what not but I dont have the same concerns as you (you being in Europe and all). From what I have seen it seems like once you have a good working arizer solo they are tanks. I have had mine for like 1.5 years and it works great

 

[as]

a thought about solo's that suddenly die and need replacement......

I have my solo a couple of months , and I have read a few hundred pages back.
I'm in Europe so my worst fear is a bad solo that would need a warranty claim......in the US or Canada..!
I'm thinking every day of this, and how to prevent it (if that is even possible)

It seems there are some units that die after some time, others sooner others later.....
and it is not serial number related, all are affected.
but what is not clear is how these units have been treaded.

if I leave my solo on for 12 minutes it gets kinda hot, so I usually switch it off after I'm done.
that is usually 5-8 draws in about 5 minutes. less than 10 minutes with another person.
this way my solo is only just warm to the touch, not too warm or even hot.
at first I started this to save the battery, but I think less heat inside is better anyway in the long run....

so my thought is:
a solo after say 2-3 12-minute sessions is hot to the touch, and not only where the heater is, but everywhere. can the heat affect the pcb and burn/hurt some components?
I think yes, but I may be all wrong........as I wrote it's just a thought.
am I paranoid? or could there be something to it?

All the computer stuff is down low and dose not get any where neer as hot as the top plus the battery's will shut down before the unit gets to hot

Try using it with eds wooden stem may just be me but my solo get a hell of a lot hotter at the top below the top cap its cool

 

[EveryDayAmnesiac]

Woo hoo! Let the charging commence!

Good ol' Solo, just like I remember it. Going to treat it right this time... and not lend it out.

 

[OF]

Going to treat it right this time... and not lend it out.

Great news indeed, by all means enjoy it.

I hear you about that 'not lend it out' part. I did that a lot with one of mine. It had some adventures it seems. Picked up some dents and dings, lost a stem or two along the way and finally showed up back home 'ridden hard and put up wet'. The battery was on it's last legs (still ran fine in PA mode).

A little minor cosmetics and a new battery and it's now my main vape (again). The newer one is the backup. Tough little rascals, this one's seen a lot of herb and a fair bit of abuse and yet a new battery makes it fit for duty.

I got my money's worth......and then some.

OF

 

[poonman]

Woo hoo! Let the charging commence!

Good ol' Solo, just like I remember it. Going to treat it right this time... and not lend it out.

This is what I wanted to see , what it looks like when it's charging
and heating at the same time . You have a Green Heat light on .
I don't think I've seen that yet .

But what if you wanted to heat at level 5 , and the charging level is at 7 ? What will it show ? The temp level or the charge level ?

 

[EveryDayAmnesiac]

Great news indeed, by all means enjoy it.

I hear you about that 'not lend it out' part. I did that a lot with one of mine. It had some adventures it seems. Picked up some dents and dings, lost a stem or two along the way and finally showed up back home 'ridden hard and put up wet'. The battery was on it's last legs (still ran fine in PA mode).

A little minor cosmetics and a new battery and it's now my main vape (again). The newer one is the backup. Tough little rascals, this one's seen a lot of herb and a fair bit of abuse and yet a new battery makes it fit for duty.

I got my money's worth......and then some.

OF

What a little beast!

My first made its way through three friends before it became lost... so it's probably still being used by a fourth person!

Mananged to turn one friend into a full-time vaporist, one into a part-time vaporist, and one.... into an anti-vaporist! Can't win 'em all...

This is what I wanted to see , what it looks like when it's charging
and heating at the same time . You have a Green Heat light on .
I don't think I've seen that yet .

But what if you wanted to heat at level 5 , and the charging level is at 7 ? What will it show ? The temp level or the charge level ?

At that point, I had only plugged it in to charge. Hadn't turned it on. Just the lighting?

 

[OF]

Mananged to turn one friend into a full-time vaporist, one into a part-time vaporist, and one.... into an anti-vaporist! Can't win 'em all...

Cool. This one made a couple converts I know of (one asked me to 'ghost buy' one for him). I also 'lost' one that way, loaned it out and it decided it wanted to live there instead. My friend didn't want to wait, used the old 'I'll pay you for this one and you keep the new one' ploy on me. Which is also cool, IMO.

As far as someone not getting with the program, that too it cool......we need a 'you don't really want to end up like him' to point out to the new guys, right?

OF

 

[Propaganja]

My replacement solo arrived at home. Can't wait to get home and open it up. Arizer service is amazing and really fast, one of the main reason I baught a solo because it's made in my province lol.

 

[OF]

My replacement solo arrived at home. Can't wait to get home and open it up. Arizer service is amazing and really fast, one of the main reason I baught a solo because it's made in my province lol.

It's on the porch right now? Give us your home address, we'll get a Member to go keep an eye on it until you get home........

OF