Yeah, Inductor with Anvil is great too, if you can accommodate a plugged in IHI haven't tried the VHB, but my @Camouflet Inductor is at least as effective as a torch for the Anvil.
Yeah, Inductor with Anvil is great too, if you can accommodate a plugged in IHI haven't tried the VHB, but my @Camouflet Inductor is at least as effective as a torch for the Anvil.
Whewww! Gang Starr Mass Appeal?! The song was extra funky when it came out and then they went and put it on Tony Hawks pro skater. I spent hours shreddin with mass appeal on loop, just vibing out. Thanks for the throwback. You’re gonna make me load the anvil, throw mass appeal on loop and vibe out…
You got the newest model, great choice. Durocore is a older model. prepare for face melting hits.So I snugged an Anvil Thermocore for around ~180 €. Is that a good deal?
I couldn't find much information on whether to chose the Thermocore or the Duracore.
I literally only found one informationally post comparing those two - Thermocore is supposed to have even more mass and thus working better with induction heater like the Wand.
Did I chose the right one?
How does the airflow system work? Is it basically just twisting with covering those 3 oval holes?
Does it actually work well with the Wand?
How does it compare to the Tempest? Originally that was my goto but then I found this offer and thought I could just save 80 € and receive a similar product .
You grabbed a good one. The Thermocore is the last version of the oven. It works great with a torch and the Forge.Did I chose the right one?
LCV summer offer with 10% discount code? I got the same and loving it so far!Thanks for the quick replies!
I'm glas I chose a good one .
Are there any custom stems or things like that? Maybe wooden ones?
As for the torch I have literally no idea. I only have some weaker one or two flame models which I'm not sure will be powerful enough. Are there any good (cheap) recommendations?
@Kaluvap is making very nice wood and glass stems (more for the usa kit) and wooden heatshields, as @azzwoodcustom tooThanks for the quick replies!
I'm glas I chose a good one .
Are there any custom stems or things like that? Maybe wooden ones?
As for the torch I have literally no idea. I only have some weaker one or two flame models which I'm not sure will be powerful enough. Are there any good (cheap) recommendations?
thanks for the mention but i only make leather sleeves or parchment cases. Azzwood is the master of Anvil's heatshieldsFor custom/wood stems mr Duba above makes some wonderful ones.
Oops sorry, saw a wooden stem at the Labetkomp website and assumed it was you. Thanks for setting the record straight!@Kaluvap is making very nice wood and glass stems (more for the usa kit) and wooden heatshields, as @azzwoodcustom too
thanks for the mention but i only make leather sleeves or parchment cases. Azzwood is the master of Anvil's heatshields
you're right that I do, the ones on my site were made by Azzwoodcustom (I still have one in black wood available).Oops sorry, saw a wooden stem at the Labetkomp website and assumed it was you. Thanks for setting the record straight!
You put your herbs in the cap .So I gave it a try in my wand. Went a few seconds beyonq the click and literally thought i combusted as the vapor was as thick and harsh on the throat. Let it cool down, opened up and it wasn't even dark brown? wtf.
It also gets very, like VERY, hot above the colored heatshield - I guess that's supposed to be like that? Means I have to set the 'airflow' before I start heating it and can't play with it while inhaling?
Just wondering if I'm doing things correctly.
Also am I supposed to load the 'head / cap' or the stem?
Edit: sorry more questions.
How am I supposed to do back to back sessions? Like the device gets so damn hot I can't take off the cap like I do on my Vapcaps.
And are there some stashes like the dynavap ones available? Unfortunately the diameter on my dynastash is just a little to small to fir the heatshield.
Also my heatshield came with two small scratches already. Bit of a bummer on a 250 € device. Is that normal?
Also, does anyone have a good timing recommendation for the ispire wand?
Well, I'll include my technique as well (TL; DR version... lol) Note that this is for an XL thermocore (and is technically a USA kit -- you can see it a few posts up). Also, I like riding the line, so if you don't... adjust the timings (you'll see me say this a couple of times)
IMO, in order to get the most out of the device, I use something that carried over from time spent with music -- somewhat precise internal counting. The wand does not blink in precise 0.5s intervals on / off. So I count internally. And I count from 1st click. That way, if you're still a bit hot, when I go for the second heat cycle... I'll still hear a click for reference.
You know what a good reference is, for counting? (provided you don't play an instrument...lol) A microwave oven. It probably won't take long to get the hang of it That level of 'precision' is going to be just fine, for our purposes.
Get a magnet that you can rest the oven / clicker on. Most times, I can draw and get vapor for several pulls, and the 1st cooldown click has either already occurred, or does so right about when I put it on the magnet.
Take a look at where the two pieces meet (oven / clicker and the receptacle it screws into). Right at that junction is where I keep the height of my anvil, at the point the rising past the red ring on the back. I use one hand to grip my anvil rig, and the other with roughly that same grip, but with the back of it facing me (not the button end). The two hands come together at roughly 45 degree angles, with the hand holding the wand ready to double-click the button (auto mode) with my thumb. If I'm resting them somewhere (belly, table, etc), I have three point reinforcement (a triangle, if you prefer).
Note I haven't mentioned a temperature to set the wand at, yet. Or a timing. Get familiar with the above, first. Modify as you need to. Ready?
Set the temp to 470F. Note that this isn't really the temp the device will heat your Anvil to; it's more of a timer. 470F provides enough time for me on the second cycle so as to not 'time out'. I never need to change from 470F, btw.
Dblclick the button with your thumb, and listen (and feel!) that first click. Count 7-8 seconds after that click, and remove the Anvil from the wand. Draw using your method of choice. I do the first one natively, since that's where the flavor is. I hear hitting an Anvil natively can be a bit harsh, so if you need to put the Anvil into a WP, there will be no penalties assessed As a side note, if you're counting correctly, the second click will come along on a cold unit somewhere around 5-6s after the first one. But click #2 is only an acquaintance... not someone you trust. Because sometimes he stiffs you, like a BM plug you don't know well. So only your first click is your buddy, here.
Note that I'm NOT counting from 'on' until the first click. That's about 30 seconds, but don't waste time / energy. You'll get an audible / tactile click; count from there. Much easier
One other thing... I'm drawing wide-open airpath, and DTL. (This may be a bit much to start with!)
Now your first draws are done; vapor has died down, and you can taste it lessening down to nothing. Put the unit standing up on your magnet, so that the magnet draws the heat from the unit. You now have a choice to make...
- If you want the oven to cool down quickly, and go through the 2nd click... unscrew the oven from the unit, and let it sit. You'll also get a view of how dark your bud is getting. This allows you to cycle the quickest, and you'll usually always get the 2nd heatup click. (I don't do this)
- If you want to maximize the heat soak of the oven, and reuse some of the heat you already put into the device... you can go for the 2nd heat up cycle anytime AFTER the first cooldown click. Position your device, double-click once more, and this time, go +15s past that first click. You won't hear a second click. Don't worry about it. Just don't go much past 15s, or you'll risk pyrolization.
Your AVB will be 'ground coffee brown'. Adjust timings downward on that second heat cycle, if you like a lighter extraction.
While I hit the first cycle natively, I do use a WP for the second hit. I can draw the 2nd one natively, but it's nice and smooth with the water.
I tolerate this procedure well -- e.g.; very little / no coughing. And I can repeat it over and over, as quickly as I can debowl / reload, if I want to do that (I almost never do this, though). In that way, this becomes an algorithmic process -- once you get it down 'your way'... it's really foolproof.
TL; DR version:
- Learn the grip
- 470F +8s past 1st click
- 470F +15s past 1st click
Edit: 500 on ispire wand later in the night. Got a great hit out of it and the tast is the best I've had in this vape tbh, lingering taste minutes later like i had a mint or some taffee (something of the like). Really good and not the usual, apparently rtl hits have been hiding this vapes flavor from me, really good. I checked the avb and got a yellowing roast with still a good amount of green (light-mediumish). I then went back in, and got it to a yellowish roast before giving up lol. Great bowl though, just left a lot unextracted. I finished the night with a 580 on the Ispire Wand. Flavor was not as good but was also not bad. Bigger hit for sure (i did pack a bit more into it though...). Roast was yellow with some of the bowl being a light brown. I'll try 600+ tomorrow. I'm also gonna switch wands to a full battery because I'm below half at this point. Great hit at 580 but not an rtl yet. I'll try again tomorrow.
hahah sorry about that, didn't wanna hog thread with multiple posts last night. I'll be updating things further with new posts going forward with numbers and results if I continue this (which is likely).(just 'fyi'... with info like this, it's better to create a new post, or at the very least -- don't bury an edit in the middle of a long post. No worries, but I was interested in your update -- when I found it... lmao) Netiquette, if you will.
I've found the Anvil to be a pretty forgiving device, in combo with a wand. Pyrolization is definitely possible, but actual combustion takes some work (aka: stupidity). If you don't already have these... get two sets of good 16850s and a good / cheap charger (I use an Xtar). As long as you can keep a set of batts at the ready, you'll be set.
Appreciate your information.Last night that I'll post something on the Ispire Wand.
I'm running the wand at 635 the whole night, I'm going to see if it stays pretty consistent throughout the wand battery life. I'm at nearly half battery atm. I will also test 635 on the other wand tonight to see if things are consistent between wands.
I will say though on the first bowl that 635 blinked 7 times tonight and last night it blinked 7 times at 630. So that's either some variable like the ambient temperature outside or my wand positioning being slightly different, etc. But atm I'm thinking it is likely because the wand has gone from full battery down to maybe 50-60% tonight, so maybe that drop caused that difference.
Second bowl of the night at 635 ended up blinking 8 times this time around with the same wand with a lower battery. This is consistent with yesterdays temps around 600+ and the idea that+5 is equal to one blink past the click. So maybe the first bowl was just a fluke or some wind was cooling the vape or something. I do vape outside, so that's one uncontrolled variable but the weather is relatively nice atm. Regardless, 635 got me an rtl looking roast with no bad taste, overall and enjoyable hit. I will do one or two more bowls with this wand at a lowerish battery before switching wands to continue. So far, the battery level on the Ispire Wand does not seem to affect the performance of the wand. I'm hoping that holds true as I go a bit lower in battery.
Thrid bowl at 635 had a similiar roast and I messed up on counting after the flashes. I ended up getting 2 clicks extremely close together and it threw me off. I'm thinking it was my bowl that only clicks once but i'm not sure. Either way, the roast was the same as before and my battery is getting low. I could and might test one last bowl on a lower battery to make sure. Then I'll maybe do one last bowl with the other wand to see if the 635 ends up giving me a similair roast or not. Then I'll call it on hogging this thread lol and I'll leave this here for other ispire wand users with Anvils.
Fourth bowl had similair roast. But it went 15 flashes after the click. It only clicked once so I'm questioning if only the first click went and not the second lol. I did not expect my one click bowl to throw off things these last couple bows the way it has lol. I can say the roast is the same though or similiar enough, so I'd say the wand retains power or barely loses it. If You do feel like it is losting power,maybe you'd notice it when it shows 1-2 bars left (after 6 or 7 bowls maybe), I didn't tbh. But if you did, maybe bump it up +10 or +20 and see how it goes for you. I'm personally gonna just keep it at one number and not care what the battery is at, I didn't notice anything different between full battery and low battery with the ispire wand.
I will do one last bowl with the other wand to see how 635 goes, then i'll call it on this thread for now lol.