Vestratto is 100% owned by John Mumford. Planet Haze has no financial interest in Vestratto or the Anvil Technology. Planet Haze tested early portable vapes made by Vestratto but did not at any time contribute financially to the Anvil technology specification or development. Planet Haze has not been involved in any testing since before the COVID outbreak began two years ago. Planet Haze has NEVER ordered any Anvil vaporizers from Vestratto and has no right to claim ownership of the technology or influence in Vestratto's business operation. There is a lot of history here but the bottom line is that, as is industry custom, Vestratto launched its proprietary Anvil product first. Subsequently offering products for sale to Dealers including Planet Haze. Clearly Planet Haze felt they had a more significant interest in Anvil because of the many year personal friendship between John and Robert. This was completely unrealistic given zero investment or assumption of any risk on Planet Haze' part. Planet Haze began hosting this FC thread to introduce the Anvil product and as a manufacturer we welcomed that exposure. The technical content of every post was provided to Planet Haze by Vestratto and reposted by Planet Haze with their own spin. Vestratto had no intention that Planet Haze be perceived as an owner of Anvil or to mislead the FC community as to who the real owner of Anvil is.
First who is Venturig? Why doesn't John address questions people have including us? This sounds like a well written legal speak. We have never claimed ownership of any part of Vestratto, which like we said, only came into existence several months ago. We might not have contributed cash money, but 15 years of vaporizer and vape industry experience, shipping knowledge, as well as hundreds of hours of involvement in helping to design and come up with ideas based on this background knowledge counts as a contribution to the creation of this product. Every time John needed something like a DynaVap to examine its build , o-rings, screens, heaters, torches, and other vapes were mostly provided for free to John from us.
PlanetHaze was involved in testing right up until the design was finalized a few months ago. We were the only ones with an Ispire Wand, so without us that could have never been tested with the Anvil, so we definitely were involved in testing, including trips to tester's houses.
The bottom line is that Vestratto (John) allowed us to conduct business with our original agreement that we would be the vendor that was doing the release. As commented, Vestratto provided the information for us to post and read all the comments and allowed us to continue promoting the Anvil under our original agreement and that was how we conducted ourselves. If John had wanted to change how he was going to launch his product he could have at ANY time during our daily conversations made that knowledge known to us.
We didn't post on here publicly to post dirty laundry. Once we saw that John had launched his own site and started selling the Anvil after all this time of allowing us to think that we would be the ones launching the preorders, we had over 600 people signed up on our website to be notified when they became available for purchase. Of course, since John just went and sold them behind our back, all the while concealing what he was doing, none of our registered customers received an email that the Anvils could be purchased. We came here to let everyone know the reason why they didn't receive an email from PlanetHaze about the launch. If you read back in this thread you will see there was a lot of confusion and upset customers that missed out from not receiving an email notification from us.
We apologize for this confusion and regret that Planet Haze has chosen to make a delay of two days in their ability to sell Anvil a Public Dispute on FC. Ask yourself one pertinent question. If Planet Haze had even one nickel of risk in the Anvil Project why did they choose to burn the house down publicly?
Before posting here, yesterday, we attempted to text and call John several times to ask why he had done what he had done. We even waited until the next afternoon for him to respond. Normally he would respond within minutes to hours, but this time, no response. We had no choice but to come here to explain why customers registered on our site didn't receive a notification. This has nothing to do with any dollars invested into the development of the Anvil. We take fault at not having anything in writing and trusting someone who we believed was more than just a business associate. Vestratto burned the bridges, not us. Again, sorry to our customers and supporters for the confusion and upset, that was not and never has been our intentions.