You guys take such nice 2ZM pics!
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I finally got to try the 2ZM and I'm finding it easier to use than my Milaana 1 but with more power. You can ride the button and get it dark but it's also much easier to manage super terpy hits that keep the herb green. I've been leaving a packed stem in the 2ZM and grabbing a hit or two every couple hours and it works great. Then I tried crushing 3 bowls in one sitting and had to take a nap lol. Loving it so far
If it is now 19/26 it would actually be really nice to use all the variety of lamart stems...
Yep it's 19/26 german glass!
Quick question, can a 18-14mm adaptor be used? I used to love ripping little bowls out of my mi.
Yes absolutely you can connect 18/14mm adapter! The efficiency will be insane with the 14mm bowls
Yeah, I tried a few then just got one from ddave back in the day. I'm basically sold, just need to see some usage videos to allay my final concerns!
We do have a Herbaltherm Youtube with lots of vids but no 2ZM usage yet. I'll be posting usage vids here on FC as well as Youtube and Instagram. You can always stop by our Instagram Lives on Mondays @ 7pm pst--we use the 2ZM a ton! I'm happy to answer questions and make whatever type of usage videos you want to see
2ZM basics video Here's a video from Ryan showing the basics of the 2ZM in the meantime
Based on my experience with the Zion style heater, and considering the increased surface area of the heater on this device, i know it is a beast.
I like the increased depth of the female joint, making it very adaptable to tons of glass options that i already own, and more that are readily available.
Size is big, but seems to be a more around the house style portable, or even a beautiful piece you can leave out as a "portable desk top" instead of the alternative true corded desktop.
The real cold to on demand style of almost instant and powerful convection heavy vapor has really never been matched outside of what Ryan had produced IMO. Tafee comes to mind, not nearly as powerful but fun quality vapor. Tiny Might? Great (better) vapor quality too but always a pain in the ass to clean/maintain IMO, and doesn't have the top end power as Ryan's products.
Is this run expected to be short like many other products produced?
Definitely an around the house portable. But if you really wanted you can throw it in a backpack since the button pressing isn't as much of an issue now. I feel a lot safer taking the 2ZM outside than then the Zion or Milaana since those have exposed glass. I can't break anything on the 2ZM which is a relief. Also the extra battery life of the 2ZM is nice for passing it around to friends without needing to bring extra batts
I agree, I love the vapor these heaters produce. Really brings me back to things like the Vriptech wand. First time I hit that glass wand I thought I combusted because there was so much vapor but nope, the vapor was blue-ish and the weed was still green? That's what got me hooked and I've been searching out pure, simple vapor experiences that provide huuuuge performance ever since
Yes this 2ZM run will be short! If you want a 2ZM please order asap so you can get the exotic woods you are after! We only have so much and once we finish we will be moving on to the desktop vape I believe. Buy a piece of vaporizer history when you get a 2ZM! Plastic vapes & internal battery vapes come and go but artisanal wood vapes are forever
I know you weren’t asking me, but I’m torn. This is probably not for me; i sold my Zion M because it was a bit too over the top for me and this sounds like it might be even more so. But it is kind of beautiful in a brutalist kind of way. What are they running for?
Beautiful in a brutalist kind of way-- I love it! $229 is starting price. Zion M was a beast but the 2ZM is a refined beast. Much easier to use
State secretary. Idiocy aside, $USD229 is the starting price and I too am torn. There's the tempest and this vying for my attention. And there's no usage videos for this yet with the tempest dropping this weekend...
I will get usage vids posted as soon as I can! Ryan has an Herbaltherm Youtube (listed above) that has a growing list of videos on the 2ZM. If you are on Instagram you can watch me use the 2ZM over there anytime. Heck I am happy to video chat with any FCer on Instagram or elsewhere--I will use the 2ZM, answer questions, whatever you need!
Its a walnut select heater, and cherry battery box.
The 2ZMs looked damn pretty on IG. It looks even better in person.
I cant fault the craftmanship. This is functional wooden art.
Okay i had my first go.
The first word that comes to mind is it feels like a train. When you hold down the buttons the heat is not instant, it needs time for that big coil to heat up. However when it gets to temp the heater has a lot of surface area and a lot of momemtum.
In regards to the conduction element, i need more goes to make a judgement. There is a momentum to it. Is this stored conduction heat? Or just the massive coil taking time to heat up? Not sure. My guess is the later, but thats not my final answer, need more time.
One tiny pinch seems to have got me to cloud nine. It does hit your hard. I think its going to be very economical.
So did the leap of faith come off? I paid a slightly crazy, slightly eractic mad scientist / fireman across the pond to make me a vape. I knew things would be a bit up and down, and there was some risk it might not even happen.
It happened and so far it does not disappoint.
Amazing pics,
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I agree it definitely feels like a train. The coil is twice the surface area in the same amount of space I believe. He really has to jam the beefy heater in there haha.
If you ever want to post your own usage videos please send them to me and I'll post them on Herbaltherm and I'll send you some free stems too
Compared to your Milana, the power is significantly more powerful? Or is it close?
I'm trying to figure out if the excessive size of this vaporizer is worth it
Compared to the Milaana there is significantly more power AND significantly more control which is the biggest upgrade in my opinion. The 2ZM is soooo easy to use compared to the Milaana. I am getting wonderful vapor every time and none of the hot-air hits convection vapes give out near the end of a bowl. I think the big size justifies itself when you experience the great performance. I haven't touched the batteries yet--something I'd do daily with the Milaana
I will certainly say, I am not up to date on all that is currently available on the market. I also forgot to mention Lamart products.
I am sure there others I have missed, but the market is certainly not deep for on demand instant convection, and really mostly smaller boutique shops making and selling themselves.
I do want one, but not pulling the trigger at the moment. I may still get in while still available
Beautiful unit. Glad to see pictures of another. enjoy
I also miss small boutique shops making artisan/heirloom vaporizers that I want to keep forever. It's my favorite niche in the vape space
Reach out to me if you want to pull the trigger on a 2ZM! Let's see what I can do. You are an OG from the original Zion days so I gotta get you one. Thanks for always posting pics of all of Ryan's wacky inventions over the years
Any vids out in the wild of this in action?
We will have usage vids out soon!
Herbaltherm Youtube <<That's the main youtube. I will post vids here as well.
Do you use Instagram? I can send you vids of us using the 2ZM over there. If not no worries I'll have vids out soon!
I’m happy with form and function. Worth every cent for a unique device.
Gorgeous pics! Thanks for stopping into the Live too. So happy you're loving it! If you ever want to make a usage vid please send it to me and I'll post it on Herbaltherm and send you free stems!
This goes for everyone -- if anyone has a 2ZM and wants to make a short vid let me know! It'll help me out a ton and I'll post your vids all over with credit. Make a video and I'll send you free stems
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I hope everyone is having an amazing week! Reach out to me if you have questions about the 2ZM
Last thing---we will be doing giveaways on Instagram collaborating with amazing artists like
@GoodVibesBoro and possibly
@Zasquatch to give away their amazing stems! Make sure to follow their accounts on IG as well as Herbaltherm so you can win a free, next-level cooling stem that'll work with all your 19mm stem vapes
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