Dynavap VapCap
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cybrguy
Putin is a War Criminal
Well, if that is the case it doesn't seem a good way to try to initiate new users. VapCaps have a learning curve to begin with and I see no advantage in steepening it. If just trying to get some value out of them instead of just tossing them I would think it better to offer them cheaply on the site for experienced users. I would tend to point new users to the easiest experience possible. But maybe that is just me.
I have real VC's to share with others.
Ramahs
Fucking Combustion (mostly) Since February 2017
Meh. It still works fine. Plus, I planned to keep it for myself. Does that make me a bad customer? I've given away a couple M's in the past that I paid more for. I just didn't have a 2019 M.
With reference to the recent (& on-going) concerns regarding manufacturing oil residue on new DV parts & the need for cleaning before use - I must say, I'm pleased that it's my regime for new vape related kit anyway, but especially so this time, as the amount of grey-black residue transferred on to an iso soaked sheet of kitchen roll after one pass through (a new condensor which came with the spinning mouthpiece I wanted) was pretty grim, imo . . .
. . . and then with another clean sheet on the second pass through . . .
After the second pass we were visibly looking good but man, I'm so pleased I did that clean. I have friends who would not bother (I got a few VC's for some friends a while back & cleaned them before letting anyone have them which I'm pleased I did as they used them straight out of the tube, in front of me, without even thinking about cleaning) - in fact VC's are sold in a couple of local headshops around my way & people would definitely be buying them to pretty much use the moment they stroll out of the shop. That's really not great & I hope DV is taking note - maybe even adding a note inside all appropriate vapes & parts to say an iso cleaning is advised prior to use? It woud be totally awesome if they were ready to use straight out of the box, though
Anyway, hopefully this situation is getting better as some members here have reported.
For me, on the more positive side of things, 4/20 vape-mail is STILL the best!
and although I rather liked the look of a bare condensor sticking out the rear of my VonG in a kind of industrial exhaust pipe/cocobolo body combo . . . . I think I'm loving even more the contrasting look of my new light wood (maybe maple) mouthpiece paired with that 18mm cocobolo bad boy . . .
Wishing a very safe & happy 4/20 2020 to each & every single one of you!
. . . and then with another clean sheet on the second pass through . . .
After the second pass we were visibly looking good but man, I'm so pleased I did that clean. I have friends who would not bother (I got a few VC's for some friends a while back & cleaned them before letting anyone have them which I'm pleased I did as they used them straight out of the tube, in front of me, without even thinking about cleaning) - in fact VC's are sold in a couple of local headshops around my way & people would definitely be buying them to pretty much use the moment they stroll out of the shop. That's really not great & I hope DV is taking note - maybe even adding a note inside all appropriate vapes & parts to say an iso cleaning is advised prior to use? It woud be totally awesome if they were ready to use straight out of the box, though
Anyway, hopefully this situation is getting better as some members here have reported.
For me, on the more positive side of things, 4/20 vape-mail is STILL the best!
and although I rather liked the look of a bare condensor sticking out the rear of my VonG in a kind of industrial exhaust pipe/cocobolo body combo . . . . I think I'm loving even more the contrasting look of my new light wood (maybe maple) mouthpiece paired with that 18mm cocobolo bad boy . . .
Wishing a very safe & happy 4/20 2020 to each & every single one of you!
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RustyOldNail
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With reference to the recent (& on-going) concerns regarding manufacturing oil residue on new DV parts & the need for cleaning before use - I must say, I'm pleased that it's my regime for new vape related kit anyway, but especially so this time, as the amount of grey-black residue transferred on to an iso soaked sheet of kitchen roll after one pass through (a new condensor which came with the spinning mouthpiece I wanted) was pretty grim, imo . . .
. . . and then with another clean sheet on the second pass through . . .
After the second pass we were visibly looking good but man, I'm so pleased I did that clean. I have friends who would not bother (I got a few VC's for some friends a while back & cleaned them before letting anyone have them which I'm pleased I did as they used them straight out of the tube, in front of me, without even thinking about cleaning) - in fact VC's are sold in a couple of local headshops around my way & people would definitely be buying them to pretty much use the moment they stroll out of the shop. That's really not great & I hope DV is taking note - maybe even adding a note inside all appropriate vapes & parts to say an iso cleaning is advised prior to use? It woud be totally awesome if they were ready to use straight out of the box, though
Anyway, hopefully this situation is getting better as some members here have reported.
For me, on the more positive side of things, 4/20 vape-mail is STILL the best!
Wishing a very safe & happy 4/20 2020 to each & every single one of you!
GROSS! Send those dirty photos to George at DV, suggest he invest in an industrial grade ultrasonic cleaner. Another GREAT example as to clean new toys, before you vape on em.....
TommyDee
Vaporitor
DV should demand food-clean parts coming from the shop. I'm one of those that doesn't even think about cleaning. Now I'm grossed out. Not so much about what was there before the vape honey coated it, but the fact that it is there on a product intended to be put in my mouth. FDA would never go for this if it was a sanctioned device. We pay a premium to have a genuine DynaVap VapCap. I for one don't think factory-clean and food safe is too much to ask. Simple clean-n-bag protocol at the shop is more than sufficient to get a quality product that is actually ready to use ...safely.
<steps of soapbox>
Alright - that had me looking at my '20-M - sure enough, condenser is coated with some kind of gray dust on the inside. ISO swab x2 to get it a little cleaner. Also checked the body of the '20-M and it too had some gray dust, adhered mind you, that took effort to remove. I did soak this thing in ISO yesterday but didn't swab anything. Just wanted to kill possible viruses from the factory since it got here so quick.
In contrast, the XL condensor I have and never used came out perfectly clean in this very same test. Not even a speckle of gray so I checked the '19 body, also virgin. Nada... clean as a whistle! Someone dropped the ball.
<steps of soapbox>
Alright - that had me looking at my '20-M - sure enough, condenser is coated with some kind of gray dust on the inside. ISO swab x2 to get it a little cleaner. Also checked the body of the '20-M and it too had some gray dust, adhered mind you, that took effort to remove. I did soak this thing in ISO yesterday but didn't swab anything. Just wanted to kill possible viruses from the factory since it got here so quick.
In contrast, the XL condensor I have and never used came out perfectly clean in this very same test. Not even a speckle of gray so I checked the '19 body, also virgin. Nada... clean as a whistle! Someone dropped the ball.
Happy 4|20 everyone
Flowering Quince Spinning Mouthpiece on '20-M; XL'd - Courtesy of TommyDee Studios
Flowering Quince Spinning Mouthpiece on '20-M; XL'd - Courtesy of TommyDee Studios
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AcidFlashbang
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My Cvap has one of those tips too :[. Im not complaining though, it was worth it just for the cap.
hinglemccringleberry
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When I first got my Ti Vapcap it was the same deal. I went to town with 91% iso on the tip and condenser tube and it took many many Q-tips before iso swabbing wasn't producing any 'gray matter' on the Q-tips.
IIRC, after a few swabs, it appeared to be all clean when swabbing with a dry Q-tip. But then I would soak a Q-tip in iso and swab again, and there would be more gray matter on it. So I spent some ungodly amount of time doing this over and over. Maybe we should use throttle body cleaner instead LOL
IIRC, after a few swabs, it appeared to be all clean when swabbing with a dry Q-tip. But then I would soak a Q-tip in iso and swab again, and there would be more gray matter on it. So I spent some ungodly amount of time doing this over and over. Maybe we should use throttle body cleaner instead LOL
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BabyFacedFinster
Anything worth doing, is worth overdoing.
I received my c-vap the other day and was pretty impressed with the quality. I looked it over and could not find any defects to make it a second. It really is a sweet looking M. I'm sending it to my father to hopefully convert him to the dynavap world. I did give it a cleaning and glad I did because it did have a bunch of gray crap that needed to be wiped clean.
I then decided to cycle it through my caldron empty a few times just to see how it performs. I believe the slight defect is in the cap. While it seems to have a normally functioning heat up and cool down click, it has this weird extra click. As the unit cools down, you get the usual click but then as it sits for a while you get an oddball click. The strange click comes about 20-30 seconds after the first cooling click. Very strange because so much time passes before that odd click. Strange being that it is cool to the touch, I take the cap off and set the little fucker down, and it pops on the table some time after and scares the shit out of you.
Anyway, this might confuse my father so I'll probably switch it out for a normal spare cap and keep this odd ball. It's kind of funny.
I then decided to cycle it through my caldron empty a few times just to see how it performs. I believe the slight defect is in the cap. While it seems to have a normally functioning heat up and cool down click, it has this weird extra click. As the unit cools down, you get the usual click but then as it sits for a while you get an oddball click. The strange click comes about 20-30 seconds after the first cooling click. Very strange because so much time passes before that odd click. Strange being that it is cool to the touch, I take the cap off and set the little fucker down, and it pops on the table some time after and scares the shit out of you.
Anyway, this might confuse my father so I'll probably switch it out for a normal spare cap and keep this odd ball. It's kind of funny.
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TommyDee
Vaporitor
That's how my '18 cap behaves @BabyFacedFinster - It is the only cap I have that has a decent gap between the two clicks.
I had once noted taking a 5/16" drillbit to my '18 stem. It wouldn't fit although that is the bore size. I worked the drillbit by hand until it fit cleanly. No actual metal shavings came out to make the drillbit fit. What came out is known as 'scale' from the heating and forming processes of the metal. This is normally removed after fabrication with an acid bath followed by a neutralizing bath.
I had once noted taking a 5/16" drillbit to my '18 stem. It wouldn't fit although that is the bore size. I worked the drillbit by hand until it fit cleanly. No actual metal shavings came out to make the drillbit fit. What came out is known as 'scale' from the heating and forming processes of the metal. This is normally removed after fabrication with an acid bath followed by a neutralizing bath.
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idboehman
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Gross, looks like I'll be giving my vapcap a cleaning before using it more tonight. Fortunately only vaped two caps from it but still, eugh...
Disagree but happy to be convinced otherwise. IMO torch/IH/bic/candle/etc... it's purely a method of getting enough heat into the cap to vape the contents and different heating methods will have different techniques. But I'll admit, I'm completely biased against torches, I've never had a solidly functioning one that didn't eventually crap out leaving me stranded. Though to be fair my experience is limited to only three torches but that was three strikes for me relying on them.
Disagree but happy to be convinced otherwise. IMO torch/IH/bic/candle/etc... it's purely a method of getting enough heat into the cap to vape the contents and different heating methods will have different techniques. But I'll admit, I'm completely biased against torches, I've never had a solidly functioning one that didn't eventually crap out leaving me stranded. Though to be fair my experience is limited to only three torches but that was three strikes for me relying on them.
Mono Loco
Well-Known Member
No waiting if it's a desktop unit!
I have a question about "M" condensers.
For my 2018 M, a long while ago I ordered an XL-Condenser kit with wooden mouthpiece. No problems, I like it. Recently, in a mixed order, I intended to order two more of the XL-Condenser Kits but I must have clicked on the wrong item and ordered a pair of the standard condenser kits. I didn't realize it until I opened the package and saw how short they were. WTF??? Ohhhhhhhhhh ... Doh!
I obviously cannot use these condensers with their wooden mouthpieces on an "M", but if I remove the wooden mouthpiece can I not use them as plain ole' condensers in a stock "M"? They appear to be the same length and diameter as the OEM "M" condenser, with the addition of a set of grooves to hold an extra O-ring. I didn't check, but perhaps that O-ring position happens to match, and therefore block, the air port hole on the "M" (?). Not matter, I think ... I should just be able to use this condenser on the "M" by removing the extra O-ring, no? Because I do not see any dedicated "M" condensers listed in the "Parts" area of DynaVap's website, I'm assuming that this is what one would use to replace the M's stock condenser anyway. Right???
Also, this condenser has a different finish than the stock "M" one ... I think it is Ti and the stock M ones, without the extra groove, are S.S. ... perhaps!? T.I.A.
I have a question about "M" condensers.
For my 2018 M, a long while ago I ordered an XL-Condenser kit with wooden mouthpiece. No problems, I like it. Recently, in a mixed order, I intended to order two more of the XL-Condenser Kits but I must have clicked on the wrong item and ordered a pair of the standard condenser kits. I didn't realize it until I opened the package and saw how short they were. WTF??? Ohhhhhhhhhh ... Doh!
I obviously cannot use these condensers with their wooden mouthpieces on an "M", but if I remove the wooden mouthpiece can I not use them as plain ole' condensers in a stock "M"? They appear to be the same length and diameter as the OEM "M" condenser, with the addition of a set of grooves to hold an extra O-ring. I didn't check, but perhaps that O-ring position happens to match, and therefore block, the air port hole on the "M" (?). Not matter, I think ... I should just be able to use this condenser on the "M" by removing the extra O-ring, no? Because I do not see any dedicated "M" condensers listed in the "Parts" area of DynaVap's website, I'm assuming that this is what one would use to replace the M's stock condenser anyway. Right???
Also, this condenser has a different finish than the stock "M" one ... I think it is Ti and the stock M ones, without the extra groove, are S.S. ... perhaps!? T.I.A.
TommyDee
Vaporitor
I think the difference is one is SS and the other Ti. There is a short stem somewhere that uses a mouthpiece I though. Now I'll have to go look for that poster again...
Okay, I was wrong. The standard condenser has 3 sets of grooves.
@stark1 - you are mistaken good sir. My batteries never die while taking a draw, ever! Now things get a little busy when you use Sun-power to keep the pack up to snuff, but in general, maintaining a charge in a battery is simpler than creating butane in a post apocalyptic world that our leaders are busily careening humanity into.
...and you also want one of these if nothing else -
Okay, I was wrong. The standard condenser has 3 sets of grooves.
@stark1 - you are mistaken good sir. My batteries never die while taking a draw, ever! Now things get a little busy when you use Sun-power to keep the pack up to snuff, but in general, maintaining a charge in a battery is simpler than creating butane in a post apocalyptic world that our leaders are busily careening humanity into.
...and you also want one of these if nothing else -
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RustyOldNail
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Back in the day, I had
That’s the BEST photo I’ve seen on this thread!
Don't i understand peoples concerns with having their vapes come squeaky clean to them so they can use them immediately.
I don't know of any other product that does not need clean first before use, e.g. clothes, dinnerware/cups, cooking utensils, etc. All things we wear, use to eat/cook, etc.
Maybe i am missing something, but cleaning something new when you first get it is kinda the standard. i don't excpet the vape manufacturer to provide me ready to use devcies, when nothing else i buy comes that way either.
Just my 2 cents.
I don't know of any other product that does not need clean first before use, e.g. clothes, dinnerware/cups, cooking utensils, etc. All things we wear, use to eat/cook, etc.
Maybe i am missing something, but cleaning something new when you first get it is kinda the standard. i don't excpet the vape manufacturer to provide me ready to use devcies, when nothing else i buy comes that way either.
Just my 2 cents.
RustyOldNail
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Do you expect someone has washed the dishes and utensils when you are served food in a restaurant?
Why of course, cause i didn't buy them brand spanking new in a box from a factory etc. Now, if i got to one of these manufacturers homes and they pass me a vape, i expect it clean.
EDIT TO ADD: Same thing, i would expect when the restaurant gets in new dishes, etc. they clean them first prior to using rather then exepcting their manufacturer or whatever already washed and sanitized them, cause even if they did, they sat in a box for how long and shipped etc.
My bad mods, please combine. Pushed the wrong button.
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RustyOldNail
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Of coarse you expect the dishes to be sanitary you are served food on no matter how they got to your table, because you trust they understand you are EATING from it. Manufacturers have a health responsibility when selling anything you breath through. We know many don’t, but larger, “reputable” ones have no excuse to not run the metal through a final cleaning process. I’m not debating your points on it being smart to clean anything you buy, just how much good practice should be followed in vaping products. Besides, do you think it’s a “good look” for these companies, when they charge a decent price for these shiny on the outside products?
I received my $200 Simrell today, I’ll let everyone know when I finish cleaning it......
(Photo above)
@RustyOldNail Completely understandable, we just see it different. And really, this is an opinion and perspective, so we all have our own views, which is great. Nothing wrong or right.
These are very small run companies, if i was to expect perfectly clean anything, i would first look towards larger manufacturers first to provide this. I would not expect small shops to provide this level of service before a much larger coporation.
I guess we could look at it another way. For small companies, specifically looking at dynavap. They could provide more sales/discounts, dang near free m's with karmavap or cvap, or they could invest in the time and equipment to ensure everything comes clean.
Personally, i'd hope they keep up the discounts and karma/c/vaps, rather then investing the money and energy into that aspect. Because no matter what i have received between getting into ecigs in the past, and then into vaporizers, i clean new, used or whatever. One thing to consider, how much of your health do you insturst to the person on the other end. I don't think anyone is out to get me, but i do know that everyone has their own personal view of ok/clean/sufficient/quality.
EDIT TO ADD: Pressed the right button this time, huzzaaah. I don't post a lot for how long i have lurked. I have just seen a lot of these posts, which i don't understand because of everything esle we buy and what is usually needed/required/recommended. I guess just trying to provide a different persepctive which could provide some with saving themselves some grief. We clean whatever we receive, don't care if it is hermetically sealed if i still have an option to clean it, i'll do a quick clean at the least.
These are very small run companies, if i was to expect perfectly clean anything, i would first look towards larger manufacturers first to provide this. I would not expect small shops to provide this level of service before a much larger coporation.
I guess we could look at it another way. For small companies, specifically looking at dynavap. They could provide more sales/discounts, dang near free m's with karmavap or cvap, or they could invest in the time and equipment to ensure everything comes clean.
Personally, i'd hope they keep up the discounts and karma/c/vaps, rather then investing the money and energy into that aspect. Because no matter what i have received between getting into ecigs in the past, and then into vaporizers, i clean new, used or whatever. One thing to consider, how much of your health do you insturst to the person on the other end. I don't think anyone is out to get me, but i do know that everyone has their own personal view of ok/clean/sufficient/quality.
EDIT TO ADD: Pressed the right button this time, huzzaaah. I don't post a lot for how long i have lurked. I have just seen a lot of these posts, which i don't understand because of everything esle we buy and what is usually needed/required/recommended. I guess just trying to provide a different persepctive which could provide some with saving themselves some grief. We clean whatever we receive, don't care if it is hermetically sealed if i still have an option to clean it, i'll do a quick clean at the least.