Discontinued The Grasshopper

MoltenTiger

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i have used actual pbw and the budget oxy action i get does have metasilicate its in the ingredients list. I noticed no difference in glass cleaning between the pbw and alternative other than a more soapy smell therefore requires more rinsing. Since i pay £12 for 500g of pbw vs £1 per 500 g of fake oxyclean its a no brainier. either way actual pbw didn’t clean my cu as well as iso just my opinion based on experience. infact recently ive gone back to iso and a funnel to clean bubblers just a 1 min shake and can be reused many times. and drop the cu in a mason if iso , no reclaim with pbw/oxyclean.

anyway theres no need to worry about pbw damaging the cu so no problem trying it
the sodium metasilicate doesn't do much but make it basic. PBW is 30% Na2SiO3 so its oxidation potential is generally higher than oxy cleaners which usually have about 1% metasilicate, but the main beneficial chemical seems to be PBWs surfactants.

None the less if you've already tried it and it's not working out for you, then that's that. However I feel with the right process it should work quite efficiently, but certainly both IPA and PBW are perfectly suitable for the task at hand, so by all means use whatever works best with your methods.

I just thought it was worth mentioning that there is no substitute for PBW*, and if you try and make it yourself it will probably cost more per weight than the real stuff, which for vaping purposes is a once off purchase for a lifetime supply at about $15. That doesn't even buy me half a litre of IPA in Australia :doh: by the time I've evaporated it away, I could have just bought some damn herb
So PBW is a desirable option

*although there are many options that might be similar enough for basic glass cleaning
 

Astedra

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IMG_0388_zpsqgp6thew.jpg

It's so much better like this then the stock.
 

luke00978

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the sodium metasilicate doesn't do much but make it basic. PBW is 30% Na2SiO3 so its oxidation potential is generally higher than oxy cleaners which usually have about 1% metasilicate, but the main beneficial chemical seems to be PBWs surfactants.

None the less if you've already tried it and it's not working out for you, then that's that. However I feel with the right process it should work quite efficiently, but certainly both IPA and PBW are perfectly suitable for the task at hand, so by all means use whatever works best with your methods.

I just thought it was worth mentioning that there is no substitute for PBW, and if you try and make it yourself it will probably cost more per weight than the real stuff, which for vaping purposes is a once off purchase for a lifetime supply at about $15. That doesn't even buy me half a litre of IPA in Australia :doh:
So PBW is a desirable option

thats insane i have 5 l of 99.9 pharma grade iso sitting here cost £11 another reason i use that instead of pbw! anyway best stop talking about anything other than hoppers or we will get told off lol
 

MoltenTiger

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thats insane i have 5 l of 99.9 pharma grade iso sitting here cost £11 another reason i use that instead of pbw! anyway best stop talking about anything other than hoppers or we will get told off lol
yeah well when you kick all the crime to the other side of the world, what results is a really fucked up country that has to tax industrial chemicals as beverages :lol:
Yet we still can't legally blaze up. It's a damn circus

But yes that's enough talk of PBW and the general state of affairs.

It must be time to have another chamber and continue The Hobbit trilogy :)

Btw @Astedra that's a cool little bubbler!
And I 100% agree, it's a nice upgrade over stock! Though my smoker friends with low tolerance just like it straight. They can't handle the wrath of the bubbler
 

MoltenTiger

Well-Known Member
distinguishing between 1's & 2's?
I got my hopper care package today, minus my Ti backend... but
New batteries and an all blue hopper (new MP)!
My other batteries are really struggling to allow proper usage. So having new ones is a very noticeable performance change. It is annoying having to restock so soon, but I'm happy to have all my orders from HL now and I don't have to further consider the SS case. I definitely feel like I got reasonable value out of my old batteries, but I was expecting they'd last at least a year, which they have substantially not.

The GHB2s have slightly larger text (+1pt) and omit the "made in china" seen on GHB1s, it looks like they might also have better QC with the size of the exposed negative terminal under the wrap. But I'm just guessing there. Hopefully they hold up better long term.
 

Baron23

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Any good easy to use, cheap bubblers that work well for the GH? I've currently got the Pinnacle Pro Hydrotube but looking for something a bit easier to use.

Got my eye on these two, anyone had any experience with either?

Honey Bubbler
https://www.vapefiend.co.uk/the-honey-bubbler.html

Bomb tower bubbler
https://www.vapefiend.co.uk/bomb-tower-bubbler-b.html

Muchos gracias
So glass is a very personal decision, but I rather like the honey bubbler. Its a stemless can with a angled mouthpiece. Standing at 8" (22 cm) to the top of the mouthpiece and 3.5" (9 cm) width of the can its not too big. Its a bit hard to see but it looks like an inline perc with some sort of diffusion above it...maybe? Perhaps a bit more diffusion than I would want but still pretty righteous. The Bomb Tower is bigger with more diffusion and this will tend to dilute taste a bit....I would prefer the honey bubbler of the two, myself.

For 39 pounds (sorry, can't figure out how to put the pound sign in my text) that's pretty dang affordable. At that price, I have to guess that this is Chinese glass, but again, nothing wrong with that for an inexpensive bubbler....just be aware.

I understand Vapefiend has great CS so if you get it and its a bit lopsided or you just don't like the Chinese construction enough to want to keep it (and they are making some really good functional glass in China these days) I believe you will have easy recourse with them.

Its a 14 mm female joint which is perfect for the GH. I like the silicon prophylactic on the GH (LOL) to give a good seal on the joint.

Enjoy!:clap:
 

CapitalFlower

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So glass is a very personal decision, but I rather like the honey bubbler. Its a stemless can with a angled mouthpiece. Standing at 8" (22 cm) to the top of the mouthpiece and 3.5" (9 cm) width of the can its not too big. Its a bit hard to see but it looks like an inline perc with some sort of diffusion above it...maybe? Perhaps a bit more diffusion than I would want but still pretty righteous. The Bomb Tower is bigger with more diffusion and this will tend to dilute taste a bit....I would prefer the honey bubbler of the two, myself.

For 39 pounds (sorry, can't figure out how to put the pound sign in my text) that's pretty dang affordable. At that price, I have to guess that this is Chinese glass, but again, nothing wrong with that for an inexpensive bubbler....just be aware.

I understand Vapefiend has great CS so if you get it and its a bit lopsided or you just don't like the Chinese construction enough to want to keep it (and they are making some really good functional glass in China these days) I believe you will have easy recourse with them.

Its a 14 mm female joint which is perfect for the GH. I like the silicon prophylactic on the GH (LOL) to give a good seal on the joint.

Enjoy!:clap:

Thank for the informative response. I've actually just discovered the Chinese side dhgate.com and there are so many cool pieces of cheap glass!

Check this one out...
http://dhgate.com/product/newest-hitman-bongs-water-pipe-cyclone-helix/372098442.html#s1-25-1;searl|1898840552
 
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vapviking

Old & In the Way
Thank for the informative response. I've actually just discovered the Chinese side dhgate.com and there are so many cool pieces of cheap glass!

Check this one out...
http://m.dhgate.com/product/newest-...helix/372098442.html#s1-25-1;searl|1898840552
If you are willing to go to dhgate, this is one that many here love, and folks seem to like the Sunshine Store, of the various vendors on dhgate.
It's on my short term wish list
http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/d020-d-9-inches-bubbler-glass-bong-water/244202146.html

I was unable to view the link you posted. If my link here doesn't work for you, it's the D-020-D from Sunshine Store on dhgate.com (you remove that bulbous thingy on the top).
Now I see yours is a mobile link. When I remove that first "m" my laptop finds it. Pretty fancy bubbler! A lot to clean in there...
 

CapitalFlower

Well-Known Member
Why would it need cleaning? If you clean the chamber after each hit, there shouldn't be much resin buildup?
 
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vapviking

Old & In the Way
Why would it need cleaning? If you clean the chamber after each hit, there shouldn't be much resin buildup?
I think the old saw, "oil and water don't mix" applies here at least as a partial answer.
Vapor passes thru water, some of it condenses to resin/oil and that stuff sticks to the glass walls.
Come to think of it, with or without water, some vapor will cool/condense and remain on almost anything that lengthens the path from chamber to user, whether a bubbler or piece of tubing, etc. Some loss is part of the trade-off for smoother/cooler/more moist vapor.
 

Kermitt

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Any good easy to use, cheap bubblers that work well for the GH? I've currently got the Pinnacle Pro Hydrotube but looking for something a bit easier to use.

Got my eye on these two, anyone had any experience with either?

Honey Bubbler
https://www.vapefiend.co.uk/the-honey-bubbler.html

Bomb tower bubbler
https://www.vapefiend.co.uk/bomb-tower-bubbler-b.html

Muchos gracias


I have both bubblers and I'm very happy with this Bubblers. I would prefer the "Bomb Tower". Perfect device!
The Honey Bubbler is also a nice Bubbler, but a little bit small.
 

Icon13

Serial Vapist
Is an IMR chemistry battery used in ecigs considered a "standard lithium ion"?
Which 20-30A batteries do you recommend for ecigs?

Every battery event I have heard of came from pulling too many amps from the battery, dead short caused by torn battery wraps, and dead short caused by batteries in pockets with keys/loose change. All user error IMHO.

Standard lithium ion is lithium cobalt, where the cathode is cobalt (Li-Co). IMR uses magnesium as the cathode. There are also IMR cells that are lithium magnesium nickel cobalt.

I don't know the resistance of your atomizer, so do not know how much current you plan on drawing so it's hard to make a suggestion.
 

guyonthecouch

Well-Known Member
Well, this is clearly the best portable convection vape to pair with glass and one of, if not the best portable TRUE/PURE convection vapes available. Absolutely delicious and the vapour production is incredible(very high vapour to air output ratio). Battery life isn't spectacular but that's when used like most other vapes.
With a little awareness of your unit being on or off the battery life is definitely comparable to any other portable on the market. If you're looking to give up bong smoking this is the ONE!!

Minimal cleaning, great results with ANY material.. playing around with some concentrate pads right meow to get em down to size. But sandwhiching flower and concentrates is working better than expected! Convection with concentrates is where it's at :rockon:

The Hopper's nickname should be the TERPENATOR!! If you get a chance to play with some terps and this vape do it(recommend low temp).. unreal kick:tup:

When using on the go, I usually start at 5, give a quick solid rip(instant vapour) and then turn it down to 3 for the rest of the sesh. This eliminates the whole priming material due to convection heating. But if I want those first yummy yummy hits i'll start at 2-2.5.
 
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duff

Well worn
If you are willing to go to dhgate, this is one that many here love, and folks seem to like the Sunshine Store, of the various vendors on dhgate.
It's on my short term wish list
http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/d020-d-9-inches-bubbler-glass-bong-water/244202146.html

I was unable to view the link you posted. If my link here doesn't work for you, it's the D-020-D from Sunshine Store on dhgate.com (you remove that bulbous thingy on the top).
Now I see yours is a mobile link. When I remove that first "m" my laptop finds it. Pretty fancy bubbler! A lot to clean in there...

I purchased this one and am very satisfied with the product and the seller.
Pairing it with this from Ratchett:
http://delta3dstudios.com/silicone-reducer-18-14mm/
gives you an inexpensive, slick and effective setup with the Grasshopper.
 

Hawk

Well-Known Member
Standard lithium ion is lithium cobalt, where the cathode is cobalt (Li-Co). IMR uses magnesium as the cathode. There are also IMR cells that are lithium magnesium nickel cobalt.

I don't know the resistance of your atomizer, so do not know how much current you plan on drawing so it's hard to make a suggestion.


There is no such thing as a Standard Li-ion. That is a big misconception. Li-Ion is the type of battery cell and they can have many different chemistry. You need to see the specs to see what type it is. If a battery just says Li-ion on it and not the chemistry it would be a huge mistake to assume it was a specific chemistry.
 
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Snappo

Caveat Emptor - "A Billion People Can Be Wrong!"
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I think the old saw, "oil and water don't mix" applies here at least as a partial answer.
Vapor passes thru water, some of it condenses to resin/oil and that stuff sticks to the glass walls.
Come to think of it, with or without water, some vapor will cool/condense and remain on almost anything that lengthens the path from chamber to user, whether a bubbler or piece of tubing, etc. Some loss is part of the trade-off for smoother/cooler/more moist vapor.
I have never felt even the slightest difference in mental/body effect when using water or going dry - comfort is key, and vapor efficiency is so great anyway compared to our old fashioned methods that a little wasted residual makes negligible difference in that regard as well! ;)
 
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vapviking

Old & In the Way
I have never felt even the slightest difference in mental/body effect when using water or going dry - comfort is key, and efficiency is so great anyway compared to our old fashioned methods that a little wasted residual makes negligible difference in that regard as well! ;)
I agree completely, negligible. I had just mentioned 'some loss' to account for the obvious resin left in vapor path/glass.
 

Snappo

Caveat Emptor - "A Billion People Can Be Wrong!"
Accessory Maker
Besides becoming stained, is there any other adverse effects that come with not washing glassware?
Yes... in small progressive measure - over time, gummed-up interior glass will accumulate resin more quickly the more it is allowed to build up... resin attracts more resin. While not necessarily "adverse", it does take a bit more muscle to get things sparkly clean & showroom new.
 
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