For the people that are having heat problems, i suggest you dont rip on it but sip it. i find this the best way to minimize vapor, and dictate how much vapor i want going down my throat. click whenever i feel a tingling sensation, and continue extracting till there's nothin left.
Discontinued The Grasshopper
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Hjalmark
Oldest boy alive
Cant wait to see what softness or hardness level my throat is.
I can hit my Enano on 6 with just the 14mm gong native but the dry stem I feel like its dryer and harsher, actually I connect both my 14 and 18mm gong with a piece of silicon and hit that native and find that much better then the dry stem it came with
thus I am hoping a 14mm to 10 or 8mm female/female glass piece from DHGATE does the trick if I find it harsh, I am hoping to be able to hit it on 3-4 native without the silicon piece but honestly the failure rate worries me more then the harshness
I can hit my Enano on 6 with just the 14mm gong native but the dry stem I feel like its dryer and harsher, actually I connect both my 14 and 18mm gong with a piece of silicon and hit that native and find that much better then the dry stem it came with
thus I am hoping a 14mm to 10 or 8mm female/female glass piece from DHGATE does the trick if I find it harsh, I am hoping to be able to hit it on 3-4 native without the silicon piece but honestly the failure rate worries me more then the harshness
Baron23
Well-Known Member
Having watched all of Bud's reviews and having read all of his writings, I developed the impression that he just has some idiosyncratic likes and dislikes. I posted on his site about my experience with the GH, including my absolutely opposite view of somethings he didn't like and did it point by point, and he had no objections and allowed as his reviews are based on his personal aesthetic. What else would you expect, really.
Cheers
Vapor_Eyes
taste buds
I got my stainless steel Grasshopper the first day of summer, the timing couldn't have been more perfect for me. Now autumn is here and I have my titanium hopper, I'm good to go. This should be the perfect vape for celebrating during the upcoming holidays, from Halloween to New Years.
I've always wondered what it's like for our friends down under celebrating Christmas in summer. I love warm weather so I think I'd actually prefer it.
AJS
Calm Consistency
Clouds look bigger in cold weather tho!
Clean threads, fresh battery, cool backend and solid lights. I'm Hoppin in luxury on this fine Friday. This is how it was meant to be. Love it love it love it.
Edit: just finished the session on 4.5 and the back end never got more than cool. Optimal performance right there. If you guys haven't cleaned off the thread of your battery slot in a while, even if they look clean, get a paper towel or something without fibers and give it a good rundown and see if anything kinda dark comes off. On the inside of the slot and the backend itself. Hopefully it keeps up and isn't a coincidence or short lived phenomenon, but this is as good as it gets right here.
Never even a light flicker.
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newVaper420
Vapor Enthusiast
I use mine on 4 and 5 natively and don't find the vapor too hot personally.
Skywalker OG
MAGA
Sent another message about my front end that doesn't match up and received this in response:
MoltenTiger
Well-Known Member
It's fucking sick mate
I think the GH works better when it's cold so it'll be interesting to see how she handles a true blue scorcher
vapviking
Old & In the Way
Has anyone here had a Grasshopper last, out of the box, with zero repair issues for any good length of time?
Three months?
Four months?
Six?
Buehler?
I really do like these Hoppers. Got a warranty Body back today, I have two hopping Hoppers and life is good.
On the flip side, of four new Hoppers received in early August, all four have failed at least once and one has had a second malfunction.
Response from service has been very, very good.
One for the Travelogue;
On the beach at Robt. Moses State Park (Atlantic Ocean) with my honey in our beach chairs, umbrella, etc., not too many folks there after Labor Day so we were pretty comfortable with hopping. I was taking a nice long draw and happened to look over my shoulder as the state police SUV rode down the beach about 30 yards behind us...
Glad I didn't bring the bubbler!
Three months?
Four months?
Six?
Buehler?
I really do like these Hoppers. Got a warranty Body back today, I have two hopping Hoppers and life is good.
On the flip side, of four new Hoppers received in early August, all four have failed at least once and one has had a second malfunction.
Response from service has been very, very good.
One for the Travelogue;
On the beach at Robt. Moses State Park (Atlantic Ocean) with my honey in our beach chairs, umbrella, etc., not too many folks there after Labor Day so we were pretty comfortable with hopping. I was taking a nice long draw and happened to look over my shoulder as the state police SUV rode down the beach about 30 yards behind us...
Glad I didn't bring the bubbler!
WoodyWeedPecker
Well-Known Member
With my new drawing technique I turn off the hopper very quickly (for a fresh bowl) after I start drawing, then, while off, I keep drawing hard until there's no more vapor/hot air left.
You must turn off the hopper quickly or you will get overwhelmed by vapor with a fresh bowl and you will have to stop drawing before the air/vapor turns cold. This drawing technique helps make my hopper more efficient and cools down the heater at the same time imo.
I'm now using my hopper without the silicone mouthpiece for stealth and taste. It can get a bit hot but it's easily manageable and I like it better when not using mflb stem/bubbler. The backend is still warm in normal use and often very hot when the light's blinking blue but it's been worse before. Would like to see a power adapter like the mflb for home use. Maybe I overdo it but I clean my mouthpiece in hot iso to remove the honey oil accumulation. At the moment, I do it about every 1 or 2 weeks when I notice the draw resistance increasing in the mouthpiece. I also clean my threads and my bowl with Iso and qtips from time to time even if they never gave me reason to.
The new batteries (GH2) intrigue me. I wonder if they help reduce the backend heat and last maybe a bit longer (and keep improving the situation even after a couple of recharge cycle).
You must turn off the hopper quickly or you will get overwhelmed by vapor with a fresh bowl and you will have to stop drawing before the air/vapor turns cold. This drawing technique helps make my hopper more efficient and cools down the heater at the same time imo.
I'm now using my hopper without the silicone mouthpiece for stealth and taste. It can get a bit hot but it's easily manageable and I like it better when not using mflb stem/bubbler. The backend is still warm in normal use and often very hot when the light's blinking blue but it's been worse before. Would like to see a power adapter like the mflb for home use. Maybe I overdo it but I clean my mouthpiece in hot iso to remove the honey oil accumulation. At the moment, I do it about every 1 or 2 weeks when I notice the draw resistance increasing in the mouthpiece. I also clean my threads and my bowl with Iso and qtips from time to time even if they never gave me reason to.
The new batteries (GH2) intrigue me. I wonder if they help reduce the backend heat and last maybe a bit longer (and keep improving the situation even after a couple of recharge cycle).
lovecrush
http://goo.gl/EsKJzJ
My grasshopper almost exploded.
So, seems like I'm going to submite my fourth warranty request or whatever the fuck that means. I just switched batteries with my unit turned off and instantly I started to smell burned electronics in my room. My grasshopper got REALLY hot, like I couldn't even touch it, but I tried my best to unscrew the unit and remove the battery. My fingertips are hurting at the moment. The battery was melting and the top piece just got fucked as you can see in the picture. My room is still stinking like burned electronics btw. Honestly I'd just like a refund at this point (I don't know if that's possible, since I've already registered for the three previous warranties)
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6079Smith
Well-Known Member
My grasshopper almost exploded.
So, seems like I'm going to submite my fourth warranty request or whatever the fuck that means. I just switched batteries with my unit turned off and instantly I started to smell burned electronics in my room. My grasshopper got REALLY hot, like I couldn't even touch it, but I tried my best to unscrew the unit and remove the battery. My fingertips are hurting at the moment. The battery was melting and the top piece just got fucked as you can see in the picture. My room is still stinking like burned electronics btw. Honestly I'd just like a refund at this point (I don't know if that's possible, since I've already registered for the three previous warranties)
"Your Hopper tested to operate in the acceptable heat range. Unit was retested multiple times with a nearly drained battery but was unable to recreate the excessively hot Back End. Nothing was replaced on your device. I apologize that I was not able to replace your Back End, but the heat was well within the acceptable range- Caroline"
In all seriousness, that is pretty disturbing.. glad nothing catastrophic happened. I've been down this exact road with my first back end, burned fingers and all- thankfully not to the melting point. I was plenty frustrated, can't imagine the level you're at
Icon13
Serial Vapist
As somebody who has more battery knowledge than the average person, I can say that this has always been my concern. How can a Li-ion cell last and be safe so close to a heating element? Are they using standard Li-ion or IMR batteries? They really should be using lithium magnesium nickel cobalt or something similar, but not standard li-ion.
Thinking of cancelling now. What if they get sued for damages in another instance? Will we ever see our orders or refund in that case? Do I want to risk fire in my home? Hmmmmmmmm...
Also, was the pvc wrap on the battery already torn before this happened? If so it's your fault, dumbass! Lol, sorry. Been binge watching that 70's show on Netflix.
Thinking of cancelling now. What if they get sued for damages in another instance? Will we ever see our orders or refund in that case? Do I want to risk fire in my home? Hmmmmmmmm...
Also, was the pvc wrap on the battery already torn before this happened? If so it's your fault, dumbass! Lol, sorry. Been binge watching that 70's show on Netflix.
lovecrush
http://goo.gl/EsKJzJ
Nope, I always check my batteries before inserting them on my grasshopper. I ordered 8 of them in my initial order. The battery melted after I inserted it in my unit that was turned off.
JoeMama
Well-Known Member
I guess that's what makes the world go 'round.
With the exception of an actual discharging battery causing blue flickering lights -- which is the intention of the design, I've concluded for myself that if the battery is at healthy charge and the blue lights are flickering, it can only be due to a testy connection at the backend. To reiterate a prior post, a quick loosening-and-tightening of even 1/8th of a turn normally introduces a better connection and the flickering is subsides- until the battery discharges, of course.
EDIT: SORRY for the back2back, MOD! Wish I could undo that!
Modnote: Undid
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Icon13
Serial Vapist
On or off, it does not matter. If the PVC is ripped, exposing the negative terminal (the entire side is negative) it could in theory cause a short and make the battery heat up rapidly to the point of fire. When building battery packs from multiple cells, I have caused flames to shoot out of the top of the cell by incorrectly placing a metal tab. Within less than a second that tab is red hot. If you do not cut it or pull out, RUN! It happens so fast and if you don't act immediately expect a blue flame to shoot out the top much like a small butane torch. Explosion will follow. This is a chemical reaction and will not stop burning until the reaction is finished.
SlinginPaint
As Above ∞ So Below
945
Member
how could negative touching negative cause a short explain if you know more about battery's than others
AJS
Calm Consistency
I haven't submitted anything through the warranty yet. Ima just play it out. The cool backend was from wiping the threads down I believe. Idk tho seems random.
Skywalker OG
MAGA
My buddy brought over his purple Ti and the dial was sooooooooooooo much smoother than mine. He actually thought mine was broken or something when he tried to turn my dial. His front end also lines up perfectly with the body. Color me jealous.
MoltenTiger
Well-Known Member
I believe he means if the plastic wrap is damaged, exposing the side-wall of the battery cell, contacting this to the hoppers body will short circuit the device.
My assumption was similar, though I was thinking perhaps some conductive material was caught on either PCB or bridging the back of the battery.
The problem with either assumption is that the hopper is programmed to disengage if that connection is bridged, you can test this yourself by contacting the back of the battery to the threads with a paper-clip or similar.
So perhaps something was trapped on the positive side contacting the PCB.
Whatever the case, @lovecrush, dayum
That is most unfortunate and quite worrying. I'm glad you were not seriously injured !I would appreciate hearing HL's communication over this issue, if you're willing to share
I would also be interested in a pic of the PCB in the backend if possible
EDIT: might as well mention my plain Ti is showing the same error again. Turn on, red light on.. red light off.. nothing
last time it fixed itself overnight, we'll see what happens
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btka
Well-Known Member
do you have a ss hopper? try to push down your temp dial when turning....