Discussion in 'Ask FC' started by Mr. Me2, Dec 10, 2016.
Z-Plus 2 (Dual Torch) because it looks and feels like a zippo.
I used to love my Z-Plus single, right up to when the 5th one shit itself (always the igniter) when camping and left me botting a light for the weekend.
I hope you have better luck, .
Funny you mention the igniter, my zplus was a total PITA for the first day or 2 I had it, would barely light unless I had the flame almost at full, even though my tank was full and I could still see a spark coming off the igniter. I was pretty pissed since I had just paid about 25 bucks Canadian to order the damn thing, but I was determined to see if I could get it working.
Found a few videos recommending bleeding the tank as the main fix for most torch lighter issues but it didn't seem to make a difference. Then I found a video where this guy goes super in-depth on everything that you can fix without just buying a new lighter. at one point he mentions the position of the igniter.apparently just moving the igniter a tiny bit can make a big difference in performance, some lighters being sensitive enough that less than 1mm of movement would make the difference. So figuring I had nothing to lose, I grabbed a small screwdriver and just gently pryed the igniter up a hair. I also nudged it a little to sit more centrally between the 2 gas valves. After that I haven't had a single missfire on my zplus. I guess if your igniter was just completely dying and not making any sparks this wouldn't help, but still a helpful tips for any lighter.
I had fine tuned all of them, problem was the clicker stopped clicking with no resistance in the button any more, in other words rooted(this was back in my combustion days so it got a lot of use). I have said it before that hopefully the newer ones are better, I gave up on them a couple years back so they may have got better since then. I went on to the Zippo Blue after that as it had a lifetime fix or replace warranty (I ended up selling it as it was rather large, wish I had kept it for the Vapcap now)
I guess either they have improved or I just got lucky for now also I wonder if it might've been a different manufacturer that made your z plus single? I have seen a few different single flame zippo inserts from a bunch of different brands but only the duals seem to be vertigo, at least in the stores where I'm looking.
I think there are 3 different manufacturers of the zippo insert, the ones I had were Z-plus branded, I also used them a lot, at least 40 clicks per day, sometimes more, a lot more if I had damp weed..
How many years(or months) has your Z-plus actually lasted?
Oh - good to know on the Z-plus 2. I had only been using mine about once a week so I will watch out for it. There is something about me that is self conscious about some of the more crazy looking torches. Like if I pull it out in front of a friend they are going to look at it like a cr@ck pipe. Will watch out for issues.
I've been buying and trying quite a few torches the last few months, as they seem to be the biggest variable when it comes to the overall dynavap experience. I've bought at least a dozen different ones over the last few months, including 2 different dual flame zippo inserts, in all different flame configurations. My overall favorites at this point are Zico. They are fairly cheap, and seem much more well made from a fit and finish standpoint. I've got 3 different ones right now, and they all light first time every time. Some of them are all metal and very heavy and well made. My favorite thing about them though is that although they are a singlr flame, it's significantly wider and more powerful then my other 5 or 6 single flame torches. They seem to give the best mix of precision so you can heat the cap where you want and speed. It heats like a dual flame torch with much more precision. The only downside to them is that they tend to be pretty large. Since I use my M at home most of the time, it's not an issue for me. I do think that this brand will be the one I stick with going forward. If you guys want any insight on some of the others that I picked up let me know. I was thinking about doing an in depth review with pics on all of them if anyone is interested, as torches in general seem to be the source of most of the frustration I hear about with butane powered vapes. I haven't personally experienced any issues with any of these torches that can't be fixed by using good butane, purging and burping as needed, and tweaking the little wire to be a bit closer to the burners if you aren't getting them lit every time. Moving that little wire has instantly fixed the few that I was having minor issues with.
Very interested, I think we are all still looking at different torches, not just the best either as it is good to know what to avoid as well.
Excellent. I will work on getting something put together over the weekend when I have a bit of time to sit down and get it done
Great, man! A comprehensive list (comparison had be even nicer) had be really helpful.
Not years haha, i actually only got it about 1 month and a half-2 months ago when i got my first (and currently only) vapcap, my beloved 18 m. I have used torch lighters before but i've never spent more than like 10 bucks on one before the vapcap... now im seriously considering saving up for an st dupont and a titanium omnivap after seeing @Quint 's recent post about his dupont lighter.
My lighter has z plus branding on the actual insert but the zippo case says vertigo and it did come in the same fake carbon fiber looking pouch that my cyclone came in. this one is the dual flame where the flames are angled in toward each other.
I totally feel you on this, that's the main reason i kept the zplus after considering selling it. it just adds to the overall stealth factor having a lighter that looks like an actual lighter. When i'm at work or just generally outside by myself i always bring my cyclone, but any situation where im going to interact with other humans and show them the VC for possibly the first time, i bring the zplus along. also, with a full tank in the zplus it is a great little backup to just pop in your jeans pocket just in case something goes haywire on another lighter. I found this on the lotus/vertigo site and it definitely peaked my interest :
they market it as a table lighter though so my instant thought is that its quite a bit bigger than a normal zippo, the measurements don't seem too unwieldy though, sadly i cant find any shops carrying it so far.
All that money for a 2 year warranty.
Zippo Blue is about US$80 and you get a lifetime warranty.
It looks like Zippo have discontinued it, so get in quick if you want one.
Okay so my lazy ass finally picked up some butane!....Been out for a few days. I got a can of BLINK 5X but you have to choose a fitting that snaps out of the lid. There is a choise of 5 different tips. I think I have the right one but it makes a mess and butane goes every where....but hey I don't care......I have Dynavaps glowing again!
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