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What's your favorite torch or lighter to use with the Vapcap?

Discussion in 'Ask FC' started by Mr. Me2, Dec 10, 2016.

  1. -dab8-

    -dab8- Dabsessive

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    I wouldn’t mind that guide if you feel like it. I’ve been eyeing those lighters for their thin profile.



    For that matter I got 3 honest lighters from China and one of them I can’t get any butane into! They were all shipped empty, 2 of them filled right up, this one all the butane just sputters all around the valve and doesn’t go into the lighter.
     
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  2. lookhigh

    lookhigh waiting for the click

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    is there a window to show the gas level on the aomai lighters?
     
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  3. Lady V

    Lady V Well-Known Member

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    Yes, there is!
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    Well, here you go!

    Unscrew the screw on the bottom
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    Pull the top of the lighter softly. You can't remove the top until you remove the on/off switch. After you remove it you can remove the insides of the lighter.
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    Next, you want to remove the tiny metal rod that keeps things in place. It's quite easy to remove so be careful not to lose it.
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    Now you softly pull the top away in order to disconnect the very soft gas supply tube from the gas tank.
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    This metallic part was what caused the problem.
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    Push it out and then lift up. I used a screwdriver.
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    This is the piece that needed to be adjusted. Oddly enough it seemed to be bent similarly to the one in the functioning lighter. I tried to bend it in several ways. And didn't seem to do the trick.
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    So eventually what worked was to pretty much straighten it. I used pliers and my fingers. The metal is soft enough to be bent this way. Just be careful not to break it (I'm guessing it's a possibility given the softness of the material).
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    After that, I placed it back in and checked if the metallic piece would lift the gas release tube.
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    It worked perfectly. Now I put everything back together. You can use tweezers to connect the soft gas tube to the gas release tube. I managed to put it back using a small screwdriver. It is easier to connect than it seems.

    Now I placed the guts of the lighter back. This is the position I left it in order to put the on/off switch back in.
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    And this is the direction you hold the on/off switch button in order for it to fit back in.
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    Now you push everything back in the casing and screw the bottom screw and you're done.
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    I used these two screwdrivers.
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    P.S. The names I used to describe the different compartments are made up and don't know if they correspond to the actual names.
     
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  4. stark1

    stark1 Bridges, not walls

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    Very well done, a step-by-step illustrated guide. :tup:

    Because the metal parts small that they are , can easily be lost, I would suggest a good size magnet
    to put them on. Small metal screws are always going MIA, in my experience. :bang:

    Thanks for the good tutorial! :clap:
     
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  5. natural farmer

    natural farmer Well-Known Member

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    Thanks so much for this lady V! Loved the pics, admired the hands, feeling better about my lighters' future... :tup::clap:
     
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  6. TwisteD

    TwisteD Well-Known Member

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  7. LesPlenty

    LesPlenty Well-Known Member

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    I would recommend a single flame as well, the ones @Lady V stripped down above and if you get sick of filling/fixing lighters you can always get an induction heater for another twist.
     
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  8. Helios

    Helios Well-Known Member

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    Looks to me Dynavap has a new Vertigo Hawk triple torch, I like the look of it, however it seems only sold as a kit
     
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  9. Tronzo669

    Tronzo669 Member

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    I finally got the aomai's that i ordered from dhgate in april and they are awesome, my go to home single flames! Think i'm going to have to order another batch soon. thanks @Lady V for the disassembly tutorial. Curious have you had to replace any flints yet and if so how long did you go before you had to? currently i'm alternating between 2 aomai's at home/ indoors, and mostly just using my cyclone for outdoors because wind is everywhere all the time :p.
     
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  10. Lady V

    Lady V Well-Known Member

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    I think it took about a month to change the stock flint. Keep in mind my usage bordered to heavy at times. I used a Ronson replacement flint which was quite crap actually. It was too soft and it just took forever to light. I have now switched to Pierre Cardin flints. They seem to be working fine. I would suggest some caution with the flint wheel compartment. The o-rings they have used are possibly made out of cooked spaghetti so they can just snap very easily maybe even come out already torn.
     
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  11. Tronzo669

    Tronzo669 Member

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    Ok I'm already at close to a month on my pair but I've been alternating between my cyclone, 2 aomais and a few other cheap single flames I got from dollar stores around town. Unfortunately I had to say goodbye to my trusty cyclone the other night after not very long. The 2 screws holding the top metal assembly in place were always coming loose after a few bowls worth of use, so being the tinkerer that I am I was thinking I'd pull it apart and see if I could fill the little screw holes with something as it seemed like the plastic threading was stripped. Big mistake, pulled too hard and disconnected the three tiny butane hoses connecting the Gas tank to the flame nozzles ( I am just making up names for these parts lol) and it's just impossible to get them back together. Tried for 2 hours fiddling with tweezers and other tiny tools, but I could only get them attached on either the top or bottom because of the big metal housing being in the way. at one point I just tested it with the gas level up Really high, saw a huge burst of flame and smelled burnt rubber. Bye bye cyclone torch I'll miss you :(.
    Luckily I still have my z plus dual flame that works decently outside, but since I've got a TI tip on the way it may be more than enough :p, I was trying to find a dual flame torch that lights with a flint but didn't have much luck, anyone got any ideas?
     
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  12. Squiby

    Squiby Well-Known Member

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  13. Jill NYC

    Jill NYC Portable Collector

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  14. stardustsailor

    stardustsailor Well-Known Member Accessory Maker

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  15. Helios

    Helios Well-Known Member

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    troubleshoot question here, I purchased a dual flame Vertigo "razor" today, filled the small tank and fired away, immediately the flame began to misbehave and shoot up 12 inches and wont subside until the tank is nearly empty, a slight hissing noise emits from the refueling nozzle when the tank is to capacity. I ran it dry, refueled it, adjusted the flame, purged, then ran it through again and the same issue occurred, the flame continued to misbehave and spurt way up, only when the tank ran nearly dry did the flame begin to light properly. Is there something Overlooked? does anyone have experience with this model? Or is this unit defective?
     
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  16. Jill NYC

    Jill NYC Portable Collector

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    I have one and it has never done that. But one of my Cyclones has, due to a broken flame adjuster.

    Btw: does it look a little like a parrot and also a bottle opener, or is that just me?
     
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  17. Helios

    Helios Well-Known Member

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    Yes it does! funny, its not a bad looking lighter however the tank is too small for my liking, I've contacted the Vendor and will be sending it back, its a roll of the dice when ordering these things online.
     
  18. Jill NYC

    Jill NYC Portable Collector

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    I agree - tiny tank. Not a bad lighter, but runs out of fuel quickly. Glad you are able to return yours.
     
  19. Jill NYC

    Jill NYC Portable Collector

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    Sorry for double post, but past time limit to edit.

    I have now been a member of the Dynaverse since early April and thought I’d share my torch experience thus far.

    3 out of the 4 lighters I have purchased are accidentally Vertigo, so my next acquisitions will probably be made by someone else, just so I can get a little variety.
    Anyhow, here are some pros and cons of the ones I own.

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    Vertigo Cyclone Triple Flame (2 pack) $17
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MTG3SZA/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    Pros: Good price, Heats well, Reasonable tank size, easy to see fuel in tank (completely transparent tank).
    Cons: one of them broke immediately – the flame gauge broke making the flame dangerously high and sputtering. It also doesn’t stand flat – wobbly.
    The working one gets very hot after more than one use; you need a screwdriver to adjust flame and you can’t really adjust the flame while it is lit, so a bit inconvenient; must manually lift cover before lighting.




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    Vertigo Hawk Blue Triple Flame $9.95
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07D5KNP3Z/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    Pros: Cover lifts automatically when you press ignition; Reasonable sized tank; Heats well; Big flame adjuster that you can use while it’s lit.
    Cons: The Blue one is very dark – very difficult to see how much fuel is left in tank – if I got another one, I would opt for the clear one; often I accidentally adjust the flame while using – it’s almost too easy to adjust! Cover stays up after using, must manually close (not that big a deal but thought worth mentioning).




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    Vertigo Razor Dual Flame $16.95
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075NMJFYT/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    Pros: nice/unique looking; Feels expensive - metal casing; easy flame adjuster; has a fuel window to get basic idea of what is left; auto open and shut cover; nice double flame
    Cons: More expensive than my others; Small fuel tank; Fuel window is small and above bottom of tank, so slightly difficult to see how close to empty. Also hard to see when full while refilling.




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    Aomai / Coolget Pencil Thin Single Flame (probably a knockoff) $9.99
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01NAGJLUB/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    Pros: Super small, can take it anywhere; Once lit, do not need to hold down ignition- stays lit on it own until you turn lever off; Easy Flame adjuster
    Cons: No fuel window; Small tank; Does not stand upright due to flame adjuster placement; I naively thought this was the one Squiby always recommends, but tis not!



    Hope this helps others – some of my Pros may be Cons for others and vice versa.
    But bottom line: I am still searching for the perfect torch for me.
     
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  20. Squiby

    Squiby Well-Known Member

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  21. Jill NYC

    Jill NYC Portable Collector

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  22. Helios

    Helios Well-Known Member

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    @Jill NYC, I was looking into the "hawk" triple attractive profile thanks for the pro/cons, can u run the full tank all day without it running dry? have you ever tried any of Xicar torches?
     
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  23. Jill NYC

    Jill NYC Portable Collector

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    I am not sure how many sessions would constitute a full day for you. I usually only vape at night, so I have never used it that way.
    Of the four torches I mentioned above, the Hawk definitely has the largest tank. (A little bigger than the Cyclone)
    But personally, I am still looking for one a little bigger that is still pocketable. I really hate refilling them and it feels like they all run out of juice way too quickly.

    I haven’t tried any Xicar lighters yet, but I may try one of the less expensive ones soon. They look promising.
     
  24. Willy

    Willy Well-Known Member

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  25. hoptimum

    hoptimum Well-Known Member

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    FWIW, I've had good luck with the Vertigo
     
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