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What's your favorite torch or lighter to use with the Vapcap?

Discussion in 'Ask FC' started by Mr. Me2, Dec 10, 2016.

  1. Phenix

    Phenix Well-Known Member

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    I intented to use Zippo as description for "zippo shaped, basically some kind of block-design" opposed to a regular angled jet lighter..
    I see, my word selection was not that good.. At least I know why ;)
     
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  2. analytika

    analytika Well-Known Member

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    Wasn't ambiguous to me. Zippo is one of those companies that fails to police use of its trademarks as a generic. Like Xerox and Kleenex at points in their history.
     
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  3. tragique

    tragique Well-Known Member

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    Is the pb207 really worth its price point? How durable is it?

    I found that most torches last about the same amount of time, be they cheap or expensive, so it wouldn't be worth it for me to spend so much and have it die a year or two later when a $8 torch would be the same.
     
  4. Ramahs

    Ramahs Fucking Combustion (mostly) Since February 2017

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    I've been close to pulling the trigger on a PB-207 for some time now. The price of course is what's held me back for the same kinds of reasons you bring up.

    Though, my experience in the discussions I've read about it over the last few months is that pretty much everyone that has owned one for a while says that it's definiyely worth the investment. It's appeared to be only be people who haven't owned one, who share our worries.

    So, I still want one. I have a feeling that it would be my go-to for my stickybrick vape(s).
     
  5. VanCough

    VanCough Environmentalist

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    @Ramahs @tragique I have also debated the PB-207 but since purchasing one of these I no longer see the point:

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Novel-Gi...var=471725780078&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

    It has a large gas viewing window, a large adjustable flame size wheel, a lid that opens automatically with the push of the fire button (but doesn't close automatically which I like), has a switch that can lock the flame on so you don't have to hold the button permanently, and has a piezo system that after months of use still hasn't failed on me; and I mean not once, I could go grab it now and click it repeatedly and I have no doubt it would fire up every single time.

    I don't know if I've finally just got some good luck, as I do think torch lighters are largely dependent on whether you get a good one from the manufacturer or not, but I recently purchased two more and they're both working perfectly too.

    I know someone said that they don't appear to ship to the US but seeing as they're sent from China I imagine you could ask them to.

    I don't want to come off like I work for them or anything :lol: but I feel like some kind of religious missionary that needs to spread the word of the good book (or in this case lighter) after having to deal with so many shit ones.
     
  6. Ramahs

    Ramahs Fucking Combustion (mostly) Since February 2017

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    The only thing that really bugs me about that lighter is the auto-open lid that won't just stay open till I decide it's time to close it. I hate that.
     
  7. VanCough

    VanCough Environmentalist

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    Well that’s where you’re mistaken because it does exactly that. It opens automatically but it doesn’t close unless you physically shut it.
     
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  8. Ramahs

    Ramahs Fucking Combustion (mostly) Since February 2017

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    Good to know.

    Though, I'm having trouble finding that lighter anywhere I can order it, and there's not even a Manufacturer's Part# on that Ebay page (and that source does not appear to ship to the USA).
     
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  9. LesPlenty

    LesPlenty Well-Known Member

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    The listing also says;

    2. Please do not continue burning more than 10 seconds

    That is cutting it a bit close.
    Does not post to Australia either.
     
  10. Ramahs

    Ramahs Fucking Combustion (mostly) Since February 2017

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    10-seconds...really?
     
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  11. Kozzmozz

    Kozzmozz Infinite realities, infinite possibilities

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    That is really a cause for concern in my eyes

    The manual of the blazer 207 states how hot each piece gets after extensive use and estimates that a full tank can burn for 19 minutes.
    That explains the price I guess.
     
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  12. Ramahs

    Ramahs Fucking Combustion (mostly) Since February 2017

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    Yeah, Don't burn for more than ten seconds means I'm guaranteed to melt the damn thing.

    Why even put a flame-lock with such a short time?
     
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  13. JPE

    JPE New Member

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    I have 2 PB-207. One of them worked fine for a while. Right now they both ignite but the flame does not want to stay on and will go out. Also it is very unstable.

    I have refilled and purged still same issue
    Tired diffierent butane same issue.

    Does this lighter only work with SUPER refined butane or something?

    I ordered another one and tried it but no luck.
     
  14. cybrguy

    cybrguy Patience Rewards

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    All torch lighters work better with highly refined butane. My own experience has led me to use nothing else. The ones I use are Vector and Collibri...
    [​IMG]
     
  15. JPE

    JPE New Member

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    Are you saying my PB-207 is having issues due to the butane. Fuck man you are gonna make me drop by somewhere to grab this butane on the way home. I guess i have to try it
     
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  16. cybrguy

    cybrguy Patience Rewards

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    The PB-207 is a highly regarded (extremely expensive but owners love it) higher than usual quality torch lighter with a great rep. Unless they are counterfeits, I think the odds of 2 failing are pretty low. I'm betting it's the butane, as bad butane (like Ronsen Red) can kill anything.
    The good news is after a good purge and refill with quality butane you should be able to bring them back. Purge and burp those babies... ;)

    Be sure to burp out air that you get while filling.
     
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  17. JPE

    JPE New Member

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    I jus went to the shop and got the premium butane. Ill report back when I get home.
     
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  18. Squiby

    Squiby Well-Known Member

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    My monitor is acting up...:mad: For the life of me, I can't seem to see the puddy tat cat in your picture....:disgust::)


    @JOE with lighters, it's all about the purity of the butane.
     
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  19. Ramahs

    Ramahs Fucking Combustion (mostly) Since February 2017

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    These are the only two I've ever used in my torches.
    Local headshop also has Newport, but I've been perfectly satisfied with Colibri and Vector.
     
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  20. JPE

    JPE New Member

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    Ok i tried Colibri in my PB207 and it doesnt work, still acting unstable. Ill try it again when i get some time. Whatever man i got a fucking triple flame vertigo. I guess sometimes you dont get what you pay for.
     
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  21. cybrguy

    cybrguy Patience Rewards

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    I had a can of Ronsen Red in my cabinet from my cig smoking days and soft flame lighters. I couldn't figure out why my first torches sputtered and clogged. I knew nothing about torch lighters or quality butane until I came here. Once I switched the problems ended and I was able to resurrect a couple that I thought were not coming back.

    I got myself a nice little purger/burper to make it all easy peasy. The Butane Screw Thing... :) http://butanescrewthing.com/

    If you have had any oil settle in the tank you might try a few fill (not full) and purges. Those are expensive torches to toss and butane is cheap. It is worth a little effort.

    Some good advice here: http://www.stogiefresh.info/edu-cigars/articles/maintaining-lighters.html
     
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  22. LesPlenty

    LesPlenty Well-Known Member

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    Is Newport stuff good? I can only find that, Samba(says 7 times refined, this is the one I got) and Ventii, which would be the best to use in my new Honest 2 flame.

    [​IMG]

    It is quite a large lighter, but looks and feels a lot better than AU$13
     
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  23. cybrguy

    cybrguy Patience Rewards

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    I haven't used it but I understand the Newport is fine.
     
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  24. Duba81

    Duba81 Member

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    Newport is excellent, it's made by the same factory that manufactures the highly regarded Lucienne and Stok brands of butane iirc. I've been using it in my torches for about 6 months and have had 0 issues with it.
     
  25. JPE

    JPE New Member

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    Okay I have a Vector Drone lighter now. After having used the PB207, let me save everyone time. Dont waste your money on the "Made in Japan" PB207 the Vector Drone Triple Flame is will work much faster and will produce thicker clouds. /rant
     
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