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What's your favorite torch or lighter to use with the Vapcap?

Discussion in 'Ask FC' started by Mr. Me2, Dec 10, 2016.

  1. CuckFumbustion

    CuckFumbustion Lo and Behold! The transformative power of Vapor.

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    OMG :oGood to know. Because I'm dumb enough to purposefully clean my torch lighters with ISO.

    Will be that much more watchful of cracks, etc because my lighters do get jumbled around in my dry bag.

    I do own a silver Jetline Tempo which looks like the one in the pic, but with the Jetline logo. A somewhat more ordinary looking cigar lighter that will get more use for about town and the arsenal of torch lighters for long trips.
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  2. natural farmer

    natural farmer Well-Known Member

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    This Cohiba I got from Vaposhop a few weeks ago is proving very nice so far.

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    Full metal, robust, soft click, great flame, big fuel window, great build quality. My best lighter so far!
    Only problem is it doesn't last long, needs a few refills every day but it takes seconds so not much of a fuss...

    Still waiting for the single flint cylinder ones from China...
     
  3. LabPong

    LabPong Well-Known Member

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    Very happy now with my Honest dual flame with window.

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  4. Summer

    Summer Well-Known Member

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    @LabPong, is that a glass of cognac I see? :brow:
     
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  5. LabPong

    LabPong Well-Known Member

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    heheheh.......ahhhh no. Its the bottom end of my brown ale.....made locally here in MI. ;)
     
  6. stardustsailor

    stardustsailor Accessory Maker

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    True Utility Firewire Classic ( TU 460 / TU 60 )

    http://www.trueutility-store.com/lighters-c7/true-utility-firewire-classic-lighter-p56

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    Pros :
    - Original Firewire tech
    - High altitude valve
    - Works upside down
    - Solid quality construction
    - Really smooth & reliable operation
    - Wide & "rich " - " painter's brush " shaped - single flame without an inner blue core
    - Easy to adjust the flame power / height
    - Cheap ! Designed in UK ,made in PRC .


    Cons:
    - Heavy to carry .
    - Although the metallic button is soft and easy to click and hold ,it starts becoming hot after a while.
    - Rather small tank ( with my VC use I refill every two-three days ! ) Vol gas = 1,8 ml .
    - There's not a tank window ( gas level indicator )
     
  7. mmenzie

    mmenzie My friends call me "Menz"

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  8. cybrguy

    cybrguy Patience Rewards

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    I suppose it depends on how steady your attention and your grasp is and what materials make up your vape station. As I mentioned in a previous post, I almost burned the place down once by dropping a locked on torch/lighter and after that I am very unlikely to lock one on except for in very safe circumstances (like outside).
     
  9. b0

    b0 Cloudy...

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    Just found this in fasttech:

    https://www.fasttech.com/products/2150/10008367/1751603

    Single flame, I really like to not waste too much gas and the control of temperature that single flame gives and seems to be really easy to regulate if needed. Also perfect vision of how much gas you have. Looks like a winner, we will see when it arrives.
     
  10. steama

    steama Well-Known Member

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  11. GreenHopper

    GreenHopper 20 going on 60

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  12. stardustsailor

    stardustsailor Accessory Maker

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    Couple of single flame "high class" jet lighters :

    Tonino Lamborghini Aero Lighter
    - Grey with Red Lines


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    https://www.lighterusa.com/collecti...-lamborghini-aero-lighter-grey-with-red-lines

    Bugatti BL7 Torch Lighter
    - Anodized Red & Black Matte


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    https://www.lighterusa.com/collecti...ti-bl7-torch-lighter-anodized-red-black-matte


    Porsche Design PD9 Flame Torch Cigar Lighter
    - Titan

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    https://www.lighterusa.com/collecti...he-design-pd9-flame-torch-cigar-lighter-titan


    Probably this is the best (single flame ) torch lighter ,money can buy :
    S.T. Dupont Torch Lighter Defi Extreme
    - Red

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    https://www.lighterusa.com/collections/s-t-dupont/products/s-t-dupont-torch-lighter-defi-extreme-red
     
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  13. Hogni

    Hogni Honi soit qui mal y pense

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    May be but for sure one of the most expensivest :o

    A litte brand addict? ;)
     
  14. stardustsailor

    stardustsailor Accessory Maker

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    Nope.Just helping out others ,that may be though .;)
    Still ,eye-feasting those lighters is for free !
     
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  15. elykpeace

    elykpeace wasn't me

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    Amazon 9.95. hopefully it's decent?
     
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  16. cybrguy

    cybrguy Patience Rewards

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    Hey, mine is still standing too, thank the earth mother. But I learned 2 lessons. My vape station should be made of materials that are not highly flammable and _I_ should NOT use a flame lock on a torch I am hand holding. YMMV
     
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  17. GreenHopper

    GreenHopper 20 going on 60

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    Sorry bud, didn't mean that to come off as sarcastic or belittling in any way.

    Truth be told I mostly now use Pipes Induction Heater.

    Glad you aren't toast :tup:
     
  18. cybrguy

    cybrguy Patience Rewards

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    Me too, and no worries. I DO miss that beautiful linen flag that used to dress up the station, tho. :(
     
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  19. stardustsailor

    stardustsailor Accessory Maker

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    Vertigo Z-Plus 2

    https://www.dynavap.com/dynashop/accessories/z-plus-2-dual-torch

    What a great torch lighter !

    The lighter is a dual torch ( jet ) flame ,but the outlets are positioned in such way
    that the two flames are shaped in an upside down " V " .
    That makes the lighter to operate as a super pointy and super precise single flamed ,
    still with the "horsepower" of a dual flamed .

    If you like heating the VC with a single torch ,you gonna love this lighter.

    The insert (cartridge ) seems to fit in a original classic Zippo shell .
    Made out of high quality materials and parts ,that usually are to be found
    on lighters of higher price.

    At the bottom of the insert are located 1 ) the flame regulation :
    A small plastic- pointy- indicator ,attached on a metal screw.
    The plastic indicator serves also as a "range limiter" (it can be taken out and placed in a different position ,thus altering the initial "min ", "max " and in between flame power.Not recommended if you do not know exactly what you're doing ) .

    One can adjust the flame using i.e. the tip of a pen ,
    not only with a #0 flat screwdriver .

    and 2) the refueling valve :A screw-in ,high quality metal valve.
    While the first fueling ( lighter came empty ) valve was rather "stiff".
    It gets really softer to push down on the next couple of refuelings.
    Volume of gas tank seems to be close to 2 ml ( when at 85% full ? Seems so...) .
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    The outer shell is made of sturdy but still lightweight sheet of steel.
    It is powder-coated with a quite thick layer of black paint.

    I've used some fine sandpapers and water ,to give a "worn-out " finish.
    I'm not sure if the steel is stainless.Time will reveal that.
    Fact is that is strongly ferromagnetic and most of stainless steel alloys are not.

    The lighter is quite lightweight to carry in a pocket .
    Overall a great lighter for it's price tag.

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    Pros :
    - Sturdy,lightweight,workhorse
    - High altitude operation ,up to 12000 feet
    - Large gas tank volume ( ~ 2ml )
    - High quality construction and parts
    - Really smooth & reliable operation
    - Button won't get hot after prolonged operation ( > 10" )
    - Precise yet powerful " ^ " shaped - dual flame ,with two inner blue cores
    - All-Time-Classic looks
    - Easy to check the remaining fuel due to 100% transparent gas tank
    - Lifetime warranty
    - Cheap ,still made in U.S.A.

    Cons:
    - Tank material seems rather sensitive and prone to cracking.
    (Mine came already with a tiny -rather superficial -crack,
    but is not leaking gas whatsoever )
    - Shell's top cover ( lid ) has a bit of sideways movement


    Bonus:
    - Cartridge fits an original Zippo shell
    - Comes with a nice nylon pouch ,
    that will accommodate-rather tightly- also a
    standard (<> 92 mm , Φ 10 mm ) Vapcap along with the lighter

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    A "must have" item for the Vapcap users that like precision while heating the cap
    and/or use single torch lighters .



    CAUTION : The gas tank is made out of a polymer that deteriorates if comes
    in contact with Isopropyl Alcohol.Never use Isopropyl alcohol to clean the
    cartridge / tank .


    UPDATE # 1
    : The shell material of the Z-Plus 2 torch lighter most probably
    is made out of a ferromagnetic stainless steel alloy.
     
    Last edited: Sep 7, 2017
  20. mmenzie

    mmenzie My friends call me "Menz"

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    thank you @stardustsailor for the excellent review. i was wondering about this one myself
     
  21. stardustsailor

    stardustsailor Accessory Maker

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    Some notes on the Vertigo ,Lotus & Black Label lighters :

    -For lighters with a fuel window, a small air bubble will
    be visible even when the tank is completely full.

    -For safety purposes, lighter fuel tanks are designed to
    accept only 85% liquid.

    -BLEEDING THE FUEL TANK
    •Unless instructed, bleed only
    when flame begins to drop
    and the fuel tank is nearly
    empty.
    •Hold the lighter in a vertical,
    upright position.
    •Depress the filler valve with a
    small screwdriver, until all
    fuel is expelled and the
    hissing stops. Shake lighter,
    then repeat to ensure it is
    completely bled.

    -CLEANING BURN CHAMBER
    •For long-term reliability, clean the burner
    chamber periodically with compressed air.
    This will help keep the chamber free of dust,
    lint and carbon build-up, which affects the
    lighter’s performance.
    •Hold the lighter in a vertical, upright position.
    •Expose the burner chamber without igniting
    the lighter.
    •Keep the tip of the compressed air canister
    away from the catalyzer (ignition wire) or
    damage may occur.
    •Blow out the burn chamber with 3 short bursts
    of air.
    •Allow the lighter and the butane gas to reach
    room temperature before igniting.

    -ALTITUDE ISSUES
    Butane lighters are subject to altitude problems. They are a
    subject to fuel to air ratios that must be met for the lighter to
    function properly.
    As you go higher, the air is less dense and contains less oxygen.
    As you go lower, air density increases and contains more oxygen.
    You must decrease the butane flow by rotating the fuel
    adjustment clockwise (-) as you go higher in altitude; and increase the butane flow
    -rotate adjustment counterclockwise (+) as altitude decreases.
    Experiment with the adjustment at different altitudes, and you will
    find the lighter works properly.
    If the lighter was fueled at a lower altitude than you are operating
    it at, an air lock can occur just in front of the valve. A partial
    release of the pressure with the adjustment valve positioned
    above the tank will equalize the pressure and eliminate the air
    lock.

    ( At this point it becomes pretty obvious ,why the adjustable flame power range.
    Living in low altitude-near sea level- leave the "limiter " as is .
    If you are living at a place of higher altitude,
    then the whole range should be decreased : Set at minimum position,remove plastic limiter from screw ,re install plastic limiter at "max" position /or anywhere higher than "minimum"
    )

    -TEMPERATURE ISSUES
    Butane does not ignite well at less than 55°F.
    If outdoors in cold conditions, keep the lighter inside a pocket or
    close to your body so that the fuel is above 55°F.
    If the lighter has been exposed to cold temperatures, warm the
    lighter in your hand for 2 min. prior to lighting.

    -AIRLINE REGULATIONS
    Windproof torch, turbo and coil lighters are not allowed on most
    airplanes even if there is no gas in the lighter. Attempting to
    board an airplane with a windproof lighter in either your carry-on
    luggage or your checked baggage may result in the loss of your
    lighter and unexpected travel delays. Airline regulations are
    always changing, so check with your travel agent before
    travelling.


    http://lotuslighters.com/pdfdocs/IntegralServiceManual.pdf
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    And another MDF *"zippo insert " / jet lighter option :
    (*Merging Double Flames )

    Vector Thunderbird 2T


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    http://vectorkgm.com/official/thunderbird-lighter/


    " Jet Torch Lighters create a thin, needle-like blue flame. This creates a high intensity flame that allows the user to visually pinpoint an area where the flame hits.

    Jet Turbo (aka Coil ) Lighters

    As butane gas flows into the internal burner cylinder, the piezo spark ignites a flame and heats up the catalyzer (coil). The burning catalyzer creates a flame that is intensely high in temperature. It does not blow out against the wind making it genuinely windproof under any weather conditions. When lighting cigars and cigarettes, it is critical that they be lit an inch away from the burning catalyzer. Do not tamper with the burning catalyzer under any circumstances. Prevent dirt, dust, and ashes from penetrating into the inner part of the lighter as they can seriously jeopardize normal functioning of a jet turbo lighter. Longevity of a jet turbo lighter depends heavily on how clean the lighter is kept.
    "

    http://vectorkgm.com/official/vector-lighter-flame-types/
     
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  22. yogoshio

    yogoshio Annoying Libertarian

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    Can someone PM or shoot me a short list of pocket sized, reliable triple torches? Just got a vapcap M and OMG!!!!! I need a torch good enough for this baby, and the head shops only have cheapos that are pocket sized seems like. I know there's a ton of into, but I'd appreciate a short list!
     
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  23. stardustsailor

    stardustsailor Accessory Maker

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    Vertigo Cyclone II
    https://www.dynavap.com/dynashop/accessories/cyclone-ii-triple-torch-[inactive-needs-description]

    Vertigo Gauntlet
    https://www.dynavap.com/dynashop/accessories/gauntlet-triple-torch-[inactive-needs-description]

    Triple flamers by Vector
    http://vectorkgm.com/official/triple-jetflame/

    Triple flamers at lighterusa.com
    https://www.lighterusa.com/collections/triple-flame-torch?page=1&sort_by=price-ascending

    Cheers.
     
  24. Few Minute Programming

    Few Minute Programming I make videos

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    Seems like you prefer triple flame torches. I use a single flame torch and it DRINKS butane. How is the butane usage with these triple flame ones?
     
  25. stardustsailor

    stardustsailor Accessory Maker

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    Nope,I do not prefer triple flamers and in fact I do not own even a single one of them.
    Personally I'm a hardcore fan & user of single flame jet torch ( or coil for outdoors ) lighters.
    Still yes ,you're right ,the triple and quad flamers they do consume a lot of butane gas .
     
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