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What's your favorite torch or lighter to use with the Vapcap?

Discussion in 'Ask FC' started by Mr. Me2, Dec 10, 2016.

  1. grokit

    grokit well-worn member

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  2. Summer

    Summer Well-Known Member

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    Talking off the top of my head, I would think the lighter would have to be empty for air travel. What I would do if I wanted to take a good/favorite lighter with me is empty the lighter & take a copy of the regulation concerning lighters.

    I concur!
     
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  3. flotntoke

    flotntoke thoroughly vaped

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    Now, I've got to find me a new Scorch Torch Skyline as in pic below. Only did a quick look on Amazon, but looks like it has been upgraded to a new model. May have to pick one of those up to compare, but after the luck I had with the last one I really feel like I need to have one (or two as suggested by @steama ) in the quiver! Pretty big tank with sight glass, solid triple flame for quick heating, and reliable as any jet I've ever had. Only real downsides are its bulk, and you have to manually open/close the top.

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  4. hafalump

    hafalump Well-Known Member

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    Hey @steama , how hard is the trigger on that new dual flame from dynavap?
    I have a zico from lotus, and it is killing my thumb. Any recs for torches easy on the hands?
     
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  5. GreenHopper

    GreenHopper 20 going on 60

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    I like these:


    Here's my review:

    I suggest buying a bunch (I got 3x). That way you can fill them all up at the same time and as they empty just grab the next one.
     
  6. LabPong

    LabPong Well-Known Member

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    Just a public service announcement because I apparently have no common sense...

    I had a near disaster the other day. I had just received my awaited accessory kit for my vapcap. I was cleaning out my garage and waiting for the postal delivery. Just an hour or so earlier I had used up the fluid in a torch lighter I got from a local store. So I was waiting for the kit to show up with a new lighter and then I would go down to a store later and get a can of good fluid to use with them.

    Anyway....here is what happened.

    While using the Vertigo triple flame lighter from the kit, it almost blew up....but luckily it did not ignite it and cause serious harm.

    With dirty hands from working in the garage.... I quickly cleaned them off with some hand sanitizer gel. I grabbed my lighter about 15-20 seconds later to use with the vapcap. Holding it in my hand and ready to click the lighter on....I looked down at it and saw something very odd...it was cracking....then in about 5 more seconds it started to leak and crack everywhere on the plastic body. It was spewing all over my desk and face as I quickly threw it in a garbage can and threw it outside. I was just a mere second from igniting it.....it could of been a trip to the emergency room if I did.

    The fault was from a very small amount of hand sanitizer left on one of my fingers and as it rubbed on the plastic...with in seconds...it caused the very cheap plastic to crack and shatter in place.


    I know this is user error...but I just thought this should be known about with these very cheap plastic lighters. I had no idea this would happen with a simple hand sanitizer remains. I ran out an bought a different type of lighter without this kind of plastic casing. Just thought I would bring this up to you all even if it is common sense and all.....I just didnt think about it as being a possible problem at the time. I have learned now...as I am sort of germ-a-phobic and use the hand sanitizers a lot.

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG] :shit:
     
  7. Mr. Me2

    Mr. Me2 Well-Known Member

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    Glad you're okay and avoided serious injury!!!

    And thanks for the warning!
     
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  8. tom2199

    tom2199 Member

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    I've made the same mistake a few days ago by trying to clean my only one week old triple torch with an Iso-swab. Within mere seconds the gas was leaking out of the plastic body. Really dumb move, but hindsight is always easier than foresight I guess.
     
  9. Ricardo

    Ricardo Well-Known Member

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    Holy Shit! I have two of those lighters. Is it the alcohol in the gel that caused the reaction? Because I use ISO quite often to clean my vapes and the lighters are always nearby :freak:
     
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  10. Summer

    Summer Well-Known Member

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  11. flotntoke

    flotntoke thoroughly vaped

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    I'd say exactly the same on my DV dual torch. Really liking it too!

    Thanks @Summer ! I'd grab it but budget is too tight for a couple weeks. Too much traveling lately, and trying to head to the totality zone for solar eclipse. Hope I can still find a replacement when funds level out. I had one of my good old Chinese plastic triples out last night. Definitely did the trick, but nowhere near as classy as the Skyline!
     
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  12. Hogni

    Hogni Honi soit qui mal y pense

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    @LabPong, thank you for the worthful info. What are the ingredients of your hand sanitizer which could have reacted with the plastic of the lighter?
     
  13. muunch

    muunch hotboxing the cockpit

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    It's iso that messes them up. I think it eats thru whatever material the body of the lighter is made of.

    Same thing happened to me. I tried using iso like a dumbass to get to sticky stuff from the sticker off the lighter. Ruined it.

    Anyway I've had that triangle triple from vertigo for maybe 2 or 3 weeks now and I quite like it. I can stand it up. Can even stand my VC on top of the lighter.

    If I remember someone glued a magnet to the top of a lighter... Could be done with this one. What magnet though??? - I know this is a different topic but, yeah. I quite like this lighter and between this and a single I think I'm happy with my lighter selection.

    In comparison to the inline triple I feel it gives more even roasting, but maybe takes longer to heat up? I don't know. Haven't done any direct comparisons since I had to trash the inline... but they're pretty similar. I just like that this one can stand up.
     
  14. Dynalowrider

    Dynalowrider Well-Known Member

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    Muunch, I placed a magnet on my Vector Pyramid. Super glue might dissolve the tank on Vertigos.
    flotntoke, I have that same lighter, (pictured), but with Vector on it. Exact same lighter. It's called Urbano. At $29. 95 a little pricey, but they have a no-proof warranty. You just pay shipping, to and from. I bought mine when I smoked cigars and was working. Doc
     
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  15. LabPong

    LabPong Well-Known Member

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    62% Ethyl Alcohol IE = any hand sanitizers or rubbing alcohol compounds will do it.
     
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  16. StonerSloth

    StonerSloth cui bono?

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  17. GreenHopper

    GreenHopper 20 going on 60

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    I'm liking the look of this triple torch:

    Firebird by Colibri
    Illume Triple Torch Butane Refillable Cigar and Cigarette Lighter Transparent Black
    - $19.95

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    It's ticking a lot of my boxes:
    • Jet lighter
    • Fuel window (really good one)
    • Tool less gas flow valve
    • Not stupid money
    • For a utilitarian style it's not fugly
    Bonus mini carabineer clip, could come in handy.

    Not many reviews but they are all positive and seem genuine but you never know with Amazon.

    Was looking for a UK reseller and found Amazon again:

    Colibri Firebird Illume Torch Lighter (Triple-flame)- Assorted Colors - £16.99+ £4.89pp

    [​IMG]
     
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  18. cybrguy

    cybrguy I mean really, WTF

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    Wow, I LIKE that. Is that a carabiner like hook on the bottom? Nice.

    Too bad it's $20, which is over my torch price line...
     
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  19. The Beagle

    The Beagle Butanist Bubblemaker

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    I own one and I really like it. The built in carabiner and the big adjustment wheel are very useful features, I mainly use it during winter as I work in a pretty cold place and it has the highest setting of my triples (but it eats butane very fast if you use it that way).
    Mine is pretty beaten up after less than one year, if you plan to carry it using the carabiner or throwing it in a bag with other stuff it's going to end like this:

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    The only other drawback I can find is the weight, something more than 70 grams when full, almost twice a plastic Hong Jing triple torch.
     
  20. WoodVillain

    WoodVillain Backwoods Rated

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    It seems like most torches mentioned are 50% hit or miss.... There has to be better quality torches.

    I don't mind spending more on a quality item. I have an authentic IM Corona old boy lighter that cost over $100, WORTH EVERY PENNY, but it's a soft flame. I'd rather not spend $100 on a torch... But if that's the only way to get a truly reliable torch i will.


    I have a zico single flame that always lights up but the flame goes up and down despite purging it and using vector filtered 14x butane.

    Bought a vertigo by lotus trump yesterday... It didn't work right out the package.

    My vapcap arrives tomorrow... I think I'll take a trip to the cigar shop today and see what they have.
     
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  21. Dynalowrider

    Dynalowrider Well-Known Member

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    I still think the VectorKGM Pyramid was designed for the VapCap. The best lighter I have found. Doc
     
  22. GreenHopper

    GreenHopper 20 going on 60

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    Does it need a tool to adjust the gas valve? TIA
     
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  23. Dynalowrider

    Dynalowrider Well-Known Member

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  24. WoodVillain

    WoodVillain Backwoods Rated

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    I'll look into that pyramid. Looks like it may be a good option for at home use.

    Exchanged the trump lighter for another one... This one works... For now..

    Also picked up a triple flame cyclone also from vertigo by lotus. It works.

    We shall see how they last.

    That's the old boy beside the bic.

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  25. flotntoke

    flotntoke thoroughly vaped

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    To each his own, but I refuse to pay more than $15 shipped for a jet lighter - unless it looks REALLY special, and even then I top out around $20. I've had better ones that are shit, and cheaper ones (3 for $5) that work great. Of course I've also had better ones that work great, and some cheaper ones that are shit. Almost all of them are produced in China, and don't think QC is well done for any.

    What does seem to make a difference is better butane. See you have that part down, but 14x? Sounds like it could be pricey. I have pretty good luck with 5x. But, if I could get something more filtered for same price I'd grab it.

    Also, a proper purge and fill and a little maintenance now and then will keep some of them going well for a long time. Purge and fill is pretty easy with techs listed everywhere.

    Maintenance (when they act up) is cleaning carbon off the jets (I use a small metal brush that looks like a toothbrush with brass bristles), blowing that out (I use compressed air and try to shoot it in behind jets - where lighter air intake is), working the flame adjustment back and forth a bit to keep things flowing smoothly, and occasionally having to re-align an electronic sparker. These things can help a lot. But, once the igniter goes, or one springs a leak, it goes into the trash here.

    Try cleaning jets, and working the flame adjustment back and forth a bit on your Zico. IME many of these can get a little wonky if you just leave the flame setting in the same place. Moving it back and forth - and letting some butane through after a fresh fill - whether lit or not - can clear out whatever is creating problems there.
     

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