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VaporGenie or Vaponic ?

Discussion in 'ABV' started by eusaebus, Aug 18, 2014.

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  1. eusaebus

    eusaebus New Member

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    Hey

    I was thinking about buying my first vape and after a lot of research on what would suit me the best, I ended up having to choose between two vaporizers : The VaporGenie and the Vaponic.

    It seems to me that the Vaponic is way simpler to use, and also cheaper, but apparently it's not as much talked about as the VaporGenie, so I was wondering, which one of the two do you think is the best ? :shrug:
     
  2. Ratchett

    Ratchett Delta 3D Studios Designer Accessory Maker

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    Welcome!

    I think you should do a lot more research on this site before you make a purchase. There are a few other vaporizers in the same price range (or maybe a bit more expensive) which would yield a more enjoyable vaping experience. I don't know much about the Vaponic, but I do know the VaporGenie isn't that popular because you inhale butane with the hit (which as I've found from other butane vapes, excessive consumption of butane while vaping can result in annoying headaches which can linger for 30 minutes after you finish a session).

    Can I ask what your requirements for a vape are?

    If you need portability, I seriously suggest you consider the Airizer Solo - it's seriously the most popular electronic portable vape on this website currently.
     
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  3. eusaebus

    eusaebus New Member

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    Thanks for your answer. I do not seek the ultime vaping experience, I just want something that is cheap, stealthy, save weed and which produces decent vapor. I definitely would order an Arizer Solo, but I definitely can't put that much money. I need something that cost less than 40$, and there is not a lot of other alternatives except a meth pipe and the vaporgenie : http://www.vaposhop.fr/vaporizers/portable_vaporizers/?filter=price-7-40

     
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  4. Dopevape

    Dopevape Well-Known Member

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    Both should be good for your needs. Alltho one looks like a meth pipe indeed, but i wouldn't wanna get caught using vaporgenie either.
    I've never tried the Vaporgenie but the Vaponic is pretty good for its price. U get clean taste cool vapor.
    Only downside is that it is soooo fragile... dropped one while heating it but i was also in the kitchen hard floor etc... broke instantly.
    If your willing to look besides the crack pipe thing and the fact that it is fragile glass this might be best choice overal cause of the taste and well it just gets you medicated and the clouds well they aren't that bad. Also it is partly convection not really sure if it is a combo of both convection/conduction.
    learning curve is ok.
     
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  5. eusaebus

    eusaebus New Member

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    I was talking about the Eagle Bill vaporizer when I mentioned the meth pipe. Although the vaponic do look like a crack pipe, but this is not a problem since I will only vaporize when I am alone (I prefer smoking when with friends).
     
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  6. paytonpenn

    paytonpenn Level 30 Nature/Healer

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    I vote for the VaporGenie. Coil is great and only 35 dollars.

    If you're trying to spend nearly nothing I recommend a glass tube and a screen inside of it, its hard to squeeze for extras though, once its extracted it goes to combustion. I just use Hammer stems as they are already in my possession. This would only cost 10, but the video probably isn't that impressive in comparison to its actual production.

     
  7. eusaebus

    eusaebus New Member

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    Thanks for the vid :) Yeah this seems like a good alternative, but unfortunately I don't own a bong and it would cost me more to buy a bong + the stems than a cheap vaporizer as the vaponic or vaporgenie.
     
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  8. paytonpenn

    paytonpenn Level 30 Nature/Healer

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    You don't need a bong, you can also do it without. I prefer them with a J-Hook though.

    Glass is cheaper than you may be thinking that piece was 48, but there is much cheaper glass on the internet and J-Hooks shouldn't exceed 30 and can be found for 10.
     
  9. Ratchett

    Ratchett Delta 3D Studios Designer Accessory Maker

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    Need some cheap glass? We have a huge thread (over 10,000 posts?) discussing cheap high quality glass. - Read the last 30 pages or so for a general idea of the current favorites

    Here is my favorite guy - very fast shipping, quality has been great on every item i've ordered from him - http://www.dhgate.com/store/sunshinesmokeshop

    I gather even his prices are too expensive for you, but maybe once you can fuck combustion and start saving money by vaping exclusively - you'll have extra cash for some glass (or a nicer vape). My monthly expenses have been cut in half, despite increasing my consumption.

    Another suggestion that's in your price range is perhaps the Gnome glass vape? http://www.gnomeglass.com/gcart/index.php?route=product/product&path=61&product_id=59

    Some of the best taste you can get from the herb from what I've heard, though I don't know how well that vape performs.

    If you can manage to step your budget up to around $100, the Lotus vaporizer is an EXTREMELY powerful vaporizer (super efficient), and versatile. It's still my all time favorite vaporizer for portable use (I love finishing a whole session in under 5 minutes from start to finish).
     
  10. eusaebus

    eusaebus New Member

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    I had absolutely no idea those existed, but after a small google search they seem hard to find.

    Anyway, as I said, one of my most important criteria is stealth, I live with my parents and they are not fairly in favor of recreational weed use, so I think I'll have a hard time hiding a big-ass bong from them...
    I seriously doubt spending 100$ on a lighter powered vape is a good idea since you can have good electronic vape for that price, It's just my opinion as someone who never vaporized before, I do not pretend having any experience but this lotus vaporizer seems way to expensive for what it seems to be.

    Yet if this system works with smaller devices I'd continue looking into it.

    Never heard of it before, the official website is down and it seems like it can't be found on notorious headshop/vaporizers shop. I could be a good alternative as well but I guess the vapor isn't cooled down with that system, and I've read that hot vapor isn't the greatest of feal.
     
  11. KidFated.

    KidFated. Good Things Come To Those Who Chill

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    Vaporgenie coil for sure
     
  12. eusaebus

    eusaebus New Member

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    This vape looks like nothing^^ I'd rather get the classic VG
     
  13. KidFated.

    KidFated. Good Things Come To Those Who Chill

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    It looks like nothing. Isn't that stealth? Hits great just like the classic, cheaper, indestructible. No one has ever known what mine is. Never will either.
     
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  14. eusaebus

    eusaebus New Member

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    They don't look closely at every centimeter of my room, I can afford getting something as big as a bubbler, I'll hide it anyway.


    mod note: From the rules page-
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    • This forum is for mature adults only. We don’t want to hear about you needing to hide things from your parents.
     
  15. KidFated.

    KidFated. Good Things Come To Those Who Chill

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    I meant in public. My shit lays around at home anyways
     
  16. eusaebus

    eusaebus New Member

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    I do not plan on vaping in public^^ But I don't really like the fact that I'll be inhaling butane fumes, it seems hard to get the heating right.
     
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  17. paytonpenn

    paytonpenn Level 30 Nature/Healer

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    Searching glass jhook in Google I immediately get FC. What seemed hard to find? A J-Hook also isn't needed but I understand not wanted to choose that method in general.

    How much can you spend what country are we shipping to. Do you really just want a Vaponic? The Hammer can be found from 60 to 120 dollars but in my opinion triumphs over most desktop vaporizers. A lighter based vaporizer has more potential and worth than you think.

    Why not a Flowermate?
     
  18. Yoosh

    Yoosh Well-Known Member

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    I have both the Vaponic and (a smattering) of Vaporgenies and they're both great. Different purposes though.

    For a first vape I'd go with a Vaporgenie as it's capable of producing much larger clouds.

    Outside of those I'd recommend the MFLB or Flowermate for low cost, first-vape options.
     
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  19. Egzoset

    Egzoset 1SipAToke Vaporist (v3.0)

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    Salutations "Eusaebus,

    It seems to me the use of a butane lighter alone may represent an unwanted risk, simply because of the clicking sounds, the refills, etc... If you want real stealthy then there's the VLamp, but i guess its glass accessory might catch attention! Well, you get the idea!

    :D

    Beware, since in the end a clean table can turn so clumsy in no time and even defy human intervention, eventually...

    Have you thought of a cleaning brush? Concentrated alcohol, etc. Or do you have an aquarium to justify frequent back-and-forth trafic to the bathroom?...

    I have a significantly different appreciation of the VaporGenie: today it probably happens to be my best commercially-available self-humidifying option overall.

    :peace:
     
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  20. eusaebus

    eusaebus New Member

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    I appreciate the effort you put into helping me not to get caught x) , but my parents don't got their eyes on me 24/7 quite the contrary actually, it's just that I'll have a hard time hiding a big-ass bong in my closet without them finding out. Any portable sized vape or blubbler won't be a problem^^
     
  21. paytonpenn

    paytonpenn Level 30 Nature/Healer

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    Who's telling you to get a bong?

    I do agree the VLamp isn't THAT stealthy
     
  22. eusaebus

    eusaebus New Member

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    Just an exemple ^^
     
  23. paytonpenn

    paytonpenn Level 30 Nature/Healer

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    I understand now. What price range are you looking at? Any interest in Flowermate Vapormax V?
     
  24. eusaebus

    eusaebus New Member

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    As I said in my second post, I can't spend more than 40$, I am not seeking a long term vaporizer yet. It is just to try vaporizing, I don't even know yet if i like the vapor high. I don't want to buy a 100$ vaporizer just to realize I prefer the smoking high.
     
  25. paytonpenn

    paytonpenn Level 30 Nature/Healer

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    I still recommend the coil, convection is one of the better ways to get into vaping.
     
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