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Vaporbrothers Vaporizer

Discussion in 'Plug-in Vaporizers' started by eLiguL, Jan 16, 2009.

  1. vaporbrothers

    vaporbrothers Well-Known Member Manufacturer

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    Arrgh, FC peeps you are glad you don't have to do this job. A super mean customer has been yelling at my office girls on the phone and it's bumming us out!! She had a very old vaporizer that we couldn't repair. She bought a brand new vaporizer at our "NUD" rate... which is a really good deal being less than wholesale. Then something snapped or something and she's livid and promising all sorts of stuff that I won't repeat here until our lawyers get done analyzing all she said :(

    Just so people know, our "limited lifetime warranty" is available online & in the box... We take care of you for lifetime, but the vap doesn't live forever. And the parts don't exist anymore to fix really old units (more than 5yrs old or serial # less than 27440) For our loyal warranty customers we will upgrade you to the newest greatest for a flat fee that's less than wholesale (which pisses off our loyal stores and distributors) but we love you, even the crazy ones, so... I'll leave it at that. Good morning!!

    ~LV
     
  2. placetime

    placetime Well-Known Member

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    :o the weekend's not far away linus! :)
     
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  3. BigDaddyVapor

    BigDaddyVapor @BigDogJunction

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    Ugh, hate days like that.

    Pass around the picture I sent and have everyone watch the mini Hydrator video. That will cheer them up.

    Oh... and just hang up on the bitch. ;)
     
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  4. Willuminati

    Willuminati Will

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    I really don't see why any customer would have any issue with the service you guy's provide. I love that you love us (even the crazy ones) and I am blessed everyday my old VB heats up cause I really don't know what I would do... probably cry if it died.
     
  5. BigDaddyVapor

    BigDaddyVapor @BigDogJunction

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    Oops! Linus reminded me, I forgot to post this here. When I got my VB HF, I got a Mini Hydrator also. Its a very nice match with the VB, as the VB is pretty smooth already, this adds to the experience. VB did a good job, you can tell it was made for their vapes. I would use the piece occasionally, but honestly, it wasn't a daily driver.

    That all changed, this week. If you don't pay attention to the glass forum, you probably haven't seen this. But I made a nice discovery while cleaning glass and it absolutely rips. I've set aside larger and more expensive pieces, to switch over to this, its so damn smooth and fun to use. I'm going to be doing a video series for it, with the 3 main vapes.

    HD 1080 full-screen for your viewing pleasure
     
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  6. vaporbrothers

    vaporbrothers Well-Known Member Manufacturer

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    Check out this antique Vapor Brothers unit from 2000! Y2K baybee! Just came back for repair from my buddy/classmate/customer whose been using it on and off for 12 years now.

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    Now... how to repair it.. This is going to be a project.
     
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  7. BigDaddyVapor

    BigDaddyVapor @BigDogJunction

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    A hammer and saw? :D
     
  8. BigDaddyVapor

    BigDaddyVapor @BigDogJunction

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    Wow... blessed relief session tonight. Have been using my VB for scents lately. My wife bought some like cheap hallmark wax block type things. Chop a section off, put it in the scent cup and easy... 2 - 3 weeks of whatever scent. We've had a nice seasonal pine scent. Real nice sleep environment. Plus, she appreciates my vape a little bit now.

    Last I used my VB, was when I was sick, which again... the VB absolutely shined. I've got 3 basic switch positions. I always start out at about 9:30 and nurse that for a good... Crap. I honestly don't know. I'm well medicated by turn up. Then I might push it up to 10:30 - 11:00... usually will just close out at near high noon.

    HI hasn't been doing it lately, so pulled out my whip, finished off some Girl Scout Cookies earlier. Going to vape some serious Grand Daddy Purple here in a bit and pass out.

    Just passing on some VB HF love. Legit vape, that's for sure, FULL extraction. Dark roast, when its done, all nice and even.
     
  9. BigDaddyVapor

    BigDaddyVapor @BigDogJunction

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    Another thing I like about my VB, over my other vapes, is getting a full hit, throughout the draw and clear. I can then let it sit, for however long, start pulling again and a nice vapor stream in seconds. This would apply to other HF vapes of course, but VB is the one I have. Can't see any need for a different whip style vape, honestly.
     
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  10. Jayhorn

    Jayhorn Member

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    The hands free glass piece broke on my VB a couple of months ago. I shopped around for a similar piece to no avail (not paying shipping from US for a single item). Ended up improvising, and taking the ceramic 'mouthpiece' out and using that to hold the herb. Works fucking brilliantly!! It's a small & compact chamber, the heat just passes straight through the herb no problem.
     
  11. vaporbrothers

    vaporbrothers Well-Known Member Manufacturer

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    Does bringing our price down make us look cheap? This is what some people told us. Regardless, we found some room to squeeze ourselves and get the price super low until Jan 31. Now we're around the same level as many overseas copycats. It's crazy because our units lasts for years and there are cheap-ass box vapes sold for more that break in a month. It may not be forever that units like this (USA, medical grade, etc) can be sold at this price without us running out of funds. If you want to get your toe into the vapor bros style while it lasts go here.

    Oh my gawd, is this really happening?? (no, but..) But some of our stores are worried the world is ending. This apocalyptic stuff is actually affecting us!! So I had to make this ad for you lovely folks:

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    psst if i read his email right vtac told me it's ok to post ads like this here
     
  12. bobracecar

    bobracecar New Member

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    Hey everybody. I've owned a HF VB for almost 2 years now but still haven't used it much; probably a total of 30 times since I received it. The biggest reason for me not getting more into vaping comes down to me not knowing how to use it properly. Reading through this thread, I found some good recommendations for dial placement but still have a few questions.

    First, I realize a large part of my problem is probably the bud I get. I live in a midwest state and about all I can get regularly is low grade, Mexican brick. Every now and then I can find some good stuff but the connections rarely stay good for long. I'm wondering if I'd enjoy my VB more if I was better preparing my herb for use in it. So..here's my questions.

    1. I know I should be grinding up my herb before using it (especially since it's brick) but is there a limit to how fine it should be? Should I tried to grind it super fine or still leave some texture behind? And as a side note, if I do get some nice buds, do I still need to grind those or is that strictly preference?
    2. I've read that buds with higher moisture content tend to vape better. Since I have bricked herb, this stuff isn't super moist. What's the best way to add some moisture to my herb? Any way for me to determine how much moisture is enough or decide if I need to add more?
    3. Reading others recommendations for setting the dial has been helpful. Could anyone provide some tips on how much I should be packing in each bowl roughly? I remember reading in the instructions but it wasn't quite clear to me.
    4. Finally, cleaning. Do I really have to cut the hose off in order to clean the glass pieces? And I'm assuming I'll need a new hose afterwards too, huh? I ordered extra screens so I'm good there.
    Thanks in advance for helping out with my noob questions. I'm really hoping to move away from my Illadelph and start using my VB much more. Hopefully someone can give me some advice to increase my enjoyment level with my VB.
     
  13. SD_haze

    SD_haze MMJ Vaporist

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    I'll go one by one

    1. There is a certain point where your grind is so fine, it restricts airflow. So there IS a sweet spot. Most basic herb grinders or "bud busters" grind rough enough for good airflow

    2. Definitely not true. A little moisture is good for flavor and potency, but dry herbs tend to vaporize better. Especially properly dried GOOD bud. That being said, you don't want it bone dry or too close to that.

    3. You'll want to cover the screen but not add so much that it looks like it vapes unevenly OR the airflow becomes really restricted. I would estimate .05in to .35 inches past the screen.

    4. The hose should just pull off the glass whip/bowl no? Certainly how this one works. Some people wash/clean the hose, but buying new tubing is more "kosher". The cleaner the tubing is, the less vapor condenses on the hose.

    Vaporizers do have trouble with very low quality herb. One solution might be making concentrate/hash from your low quality herb. You could do it safely with a kief box or try solvents like iso (simplest) or even look into Butane Hash Oil (requires a lot of preparation/research online).
     
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  14. bobracecar

    bobracecar New Member

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    Thanks for the info. On #4 - I have a whip just like that one. I read, I think on the VB faq, the suggestion to cut the tubing instead of pulling it apart. Seemed a little destructive to me. And I'll definitely replace the hose; seems like it'd get dirty and start introducing off flavors at some point.

    I'll have to look into making concentrate. The only downside is I won't have a lot of time to work on it. That and apparently I'm in one of the few states that treats hash/concentrate like a much harder drug.

    And regarding the quality of bud and vaporizers - I'm guessing if I can't get a decent result out of the VB using the bud I usually smoke, I'm probably just throwing away money on another vape? I've thought sometime down the line I'd like to pick up a Pax as a discreet and portable smoking solution. Might not be worth the $$ if I can't really enjoy it, though.
     
  15. SD_haze

    SD_haze MMJ Vaporist

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    The way I see it,

    .1g of brick vs .1g of dank SMOKED will produce a similar quantity of smoke
    .1g of brick vs .1g of dank vaporized will produce drastically different density (or could look at it as quantity) of vapor.

    Additionally, vaporizers preserve flavor and potency, things more important when you have great stuff (especially expensive great stuff).


    You might want to look into combusting through some decent water-filtered glass but with a "activated carbon" filter. Keeps the glass a lot cleaner and that clearly shows you you're getting less nasties inhaled too.

    That being said, with the amount you can pack in the PAX, your material might actual work satisfyingly. Would need someone with the pax themselves to try it out to confirm.
     
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  16. bobracecar

    bobracecar New Member

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    Well after reading through the site and your tips, I tried vaping all yesterday instead of combusting. I had pretty good luck, definitely achieved the desired affect. Also makes my herb go a lot farther. I realized two major problems I have with vaping that I'm sure I can overcome in time.

    1. Thanks to my shitty weed, the taste I get out of the vape isn't all that great. It's not the fault of the vape. It's the shitty weed. Blarg. I'm so used to combusting, the taste of the weed plus the lighter all going through water equals a better taste than just vaped brick weed in my mind.

    2. When I got some good stuff from here locally, the only time I vaped it, it tasted just like the brick weed. It just dawned on me that it tasted so horrible 'cos it's probably the same kind of weed, just not bricked. :doh: I've never tried it with the Cali stuff I manage to get from time to time. Next time I get some, though, I'll definitely be cleaning my whip real good and looking forward to a treat. That stuff tastes great through a filthy bong; I'm sure it'll taste amazing through a vape.
     
  17. vaporbrothers

    vaporbrothers Well-Known Member Manufacturer

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    Hello I'm back, any more questions?? I have a different experience but ya know, so many factors are involved who knows what you'll get next time.... OK here it goes:

    ****BRICK and shitty herbs****
    • taste bad... worse in the vaporizer? Well to support that theory it IS true that connoisseurs have used the vapor bros or volcano to evaluate their herbs. because the difference is amplified.
    • taste better vaped.. I dunno, that was my opinion in the early days. from experience. When we built our first vaporizer in 1998 it was partly to make our brick stuff taste great. BTW, you don't have to separate out stems or seeds with the vape because the air does not vaporize what it can't get through. Great way to "use the whole beast." 2 exceptions: Moldy- ew X 10 if you vaporize. Chemical laden herbs- straight to the head. At least the high temperatures of smoking/burning kills more chemicals & mold in my opinion, although chemicals + heat = dangerous byproducts that do more damage.
    • better headspace with the vaporizer. less tired, more joy. sometimes the shwaggy stuff is happier than today's super duper.

    ****Great and awesome herbs****
    • taste better in the vaporizer. Ya obviously, although some great herbs get this awesome taste while smoking that they don't get vaporizing. The cool thing about the vapor bros & similar vapes is that you can get really close to smoking- just maybe 10 degrees shy of setting the herb on fire, which releases all the awesomeness of an herb and giving you a more well rounded headspace.
    • taste the same or worse in the vaporizer- this IS possible, once or twice heard about this before. but usually because there was a bad taste left in the vape from a burnt load or some other disaster that happened previous.
    • more level headspace. i.e. not the dramatic ramp up and crash of smoking. Vaping is great when you need to be alive for hours if not days.

    Happy new year!!
     
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  18. BigDaddyVapor

    BigDaddyVapor @BigDogJunction

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    I also prefer vaporizing lower grade herb vs combusting it. At least, from my experience with both, I don't combust anymore. Dirt weed taste like dirt weed, when you burn it. Always unpleasant.

    Vaping it, at least removes that rank/harsh part of it. Not the best tasting vapor, but better than the alternative, imo.

    Side note... I've said it before, but I really do appreciate the effort and design element, towards aromatherapy, also. Technically, my VB gets more use than any vape in the house. If I'm not using it, its got some scent in it.
     
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  19. sydnee

    sydnee Vaporus Majorus

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    What about using your VB and a water pipe? This way you can filter out more of the yucky taste you're experiencing. I usually hit my VB without the bong for the first few rips then I add the bong. On a side note, I don't have any way to actually hook the vape up to the bong properly. I just hold the vape mouthpiece next to the opening of the down stem of the bong and it seems to hit really well. Probably a total jury-rigged way to do it, but wtf is the way I look at it. :p

    Hope this helps.
     
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  20. vaporbrothers

    vaporbrothers Well-Known Member Manufacturer

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    I put a friend's DIY fix for an improper way to hook your Whip tube to the water pipe on instagram. Worked well. Just wrapped electrical tape to make the connection air tight.
     
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  21. sydnee

    sydnee Vaporus Majorus

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    Can anyone comment on whichever glass hydrator you own? I'm going to buy one, but I can't decide which one to get.
     
  22. GratefulVapor

    GratefulVapor Phish Head

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    Well, I do own a 'standard' VaporBros Hydrator(the fritted style in Blue with matching whip), & found it to be a good starter piece for venturing into water-filtration with your VB. However, it see's very little use these days, & I need to sell it. I have moved on to MUCH nicer glassware.. In the end, the choice is up to you sydnee about how much money you want to spend. :2c::peace:
     
  23. BigDaddyVapor

    BigDaddyVapor @BigDogJunction

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    I have the mini hydrator. Its a nice little piece. Solid and clean... nice match for the VB.
     
  24. sydnee

    sydnee Vaporus Majorus

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    Got my mini hydrator today. Thanks to VB for the super fast shipping. I have to say, I'm glad I picked one up. :)
     
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  25. ludwig

    ludwig Well-Known Member

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    Is there anything that we could see from VB this year?
     

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