Discontinued VapeXhaleLabs Presents: The Cloud

[vape4health]

I know i'd like to see through the Cloud from the bottom if this is posible.

Me too, seeing the insides is like vape porn to me. I just like to know what's inside a device I'll be breathing from for many MANY years.

When I first started reading about the Cloud I was like that's way too much money, now I can't wait to give them my money, it really is a steal including the crazy glass. You guys openly trading shares yet, I need to invest for my kids.

 

[max]

I just like to know what's inside a device I'll be breathing from

The vapor path consists of glass and a bowl of herb. That's it.

 

[BL4ZE]

Thanks for the update Robot.

I agree with the others that the complaints are getting rather old. It makes me question if some of these people even vape in the first place

 

[MarcellusWiley]

I just like to know what's inside a device I'll be breathing from

The vapor path consists of glass and a bowl of herb. That's it.

now make sure you point out it's a SS bowl before people's panties get in a bunch!

 

[Egzoset]

Oh i can wait, i won't feel ready to buy a replacement for quite a while i guess. To me the Cloud looks like a next-version HerbalAire update redesigned with some glass core in mind. It can only get better by the time i'll actually want to acquire a new vaporizer. So, i can wait indeed but i just hope i won't need to browse through a 500 pages thread only to find a handfull of explicit pictures...

 

[vape4life]

So many pages for a product which hasn't reached the shelves in smoke shops seems ridiculous to me. At that rate i'd expect to find detailed photographs of what's inside, perhaps a few good snapshots would recenter the currently raging debate somewhat... I know i'd like to see through the Cloud from the bottom if this is posible.

If it's so ridiculous, why come here? There is no raging debate. I can only see two groups here... the fans of VXL who are stoked, and whiners. Fortunately the whiners are in the minority.

VXL, don't worry about the whiners... you guys are kicking some serious ass... if we even need to wait another 6 months, so be it. It's not like you guys are gonna say APRIL FOOLS and throw in the towel.

Does VXL really OWE you anything? Not happy, leave. period.

 

[vape4life]

I know i'd like to see through the Cloud from the bottom if this is posible.

Me too, seeing the insides is like vape porn to me. I just like to know what's inside a device I'll be breathing from for many MANY years.
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That's funny, do you know what you're breathing in from your Solo? You think all that smell, solder, whatever the fuck is vaping for health?

There is plenty of info here, inc. pic from past.... it's an ALL GLASS AIRPATH with SS bowl. Like Max said, that's it!

 

[t-dub]

i just hope i won't need to browse through a 500 pages thread only to find a handfull of explicit pictures...

I have a feeling this thread is ABV when the Cloud is released.

t-dub

 

[Egzoset]

Hummm...

Pehaps i had the number wrong but i'm still enthousiastic about the Cloud, so... I guess the bets are opened!

How many pages before i can have a 450+ $ look of the Cloud from the bottom up?...

 

[moodswing]

...How many pages before i can have a 450+ $ look of the Cloud from the bottom up?...

you mean something else other than what was being shown on pgs 143-144??

 

[Egzoset]

you mean something else other than what was being shown on pgs 143-144??

It was a start, those 2 pictures on page 144 provide some details but something is missing which makes me even more curious, actually.

Perhaps a better lightning to render the structure more obvious would do it, i'm not sure. But, ideally, i'd just wish to see it split opened...

 

[moodswing]

...It was a start,..

i highly doubt you'll get a split/sliced image,... maybe a diagram.

here's another look from bottom (not my pic).
granted its from a beta unit, the finished product will be very similar...

 

[Troi]

you mean something else other than what was being shown on pgs 143-144??

It was a start, those 2 pictures on page 144 provide some details but something is missing which makes me even more curious, actually.

Perhaps a better lightning to render the structure more obvious would do it, i'm not sure. But, ideally, i'd just wish to see it split opened...

For foreseeable future there is no planned split diagram planned to be released. In hoping to help clear up your questions here is some details of the clouds design:

The first layer of enclosure is the insulation and heating element later; sandwiched between the insulation lies the heating element which surrounds the glass.

Surrounding the insulation layer is the inner enclosure and electronics; the inner enclosure surrounds hte insulation layer and then has a bottom cavity where the electronics reside.

Surrounding the inner enclosure is black outer enclosure which is separated from the inner by a quarter of an inch to allow for heat to be released keeping the unit safe to hold.

The key all glass air path elements surrounding the cloud are the following:
1. The air never comes into contact with any of electronics, wiring, or heating element
2. Its a an all glass air path before the screen is inserted from the intake to the outtake and where there air is heated thermally by the glass.
3. While there is a SS screen; this is common in all other "all glass vaporizers" although our design allows the SS to remain very cool so chances of it reacting with the vapor's taste profile is nullified.

 

[IAmKrazy2]

Oh i can wait, i won't feel ready to buy a replacement for quite a while i guess. To me the Cloud looks like a next-version HerbalAire update redesigned with some glass core in mind. It can only get better by the time i'll actually want to acquire a new vaporizer. So, i can wait indeed but i just hope i won't need to browse through a 500 pages thread only to find a handfull of explicit pictures...

I think it is pretty safe to say, the Cloud is nothing like a redesigned HA. Unlike most vape companies VX has left no stone unturned and I wouldn't expect much revisons in future cloud models IMO.... as said before I would only ask for an even better concentrate bowl, everything else is golden.

 

[mistergyro]

i could see the bowl being improved upon or at least with different options but i don't see them running back to the drawing board once its done...let's get it done first and worry about that later.

 

[charliedontsurf]

Thanks for the answers about the construction Troi, it should lay to rest silly concerns about the VXC being a retread of old concepts. It has more in common with retained-heat all glass vaporizer such as the Vapolution, Vapocane, Gnome, and even VX's own Rain than with more conventional electric designs which use metal and ceramic heating elements directly. The addition of the Cloud's precise electronic control and drag-free design with built in air turbulence are what promise to take it to a new level entirely.

The dateline setback was honestly no surprise to me, no news had been heard for awhile about how the assembly was going and we were close to the wire. If other companies went about scheduling release dates just like a week after the completion of the very first full-scale construction run then we would be constantly disappointed when the new Ford Blah Blah was delayed for 10 months while they worked out unforeseen problems. This is the one time when Vape Exhale might of been wise to give us a fuzzier time frame.

I'm sure they'll have it sorted out in a few months time at most, and it's well worth the wait. I hope that all the bad luck with CC processors and the manufacturing screw ups by third parties aren't causing undue personal and financial strain on the VX team and they should put themselves first, not the product, at the end of the day. We can gladly wait longer for a product with as much promise as the Cloud.

 

[Egzoset]

I see.

There's a secret i'm going to share with you people: when i have a discussion with potential vaporists and they asked for my opinion i tell them the Cloud is on top of a short list of favourites because the shell appears to be sturdy, similarily to my HerbalAire, and yet this is a 100 % GonG product - meaning it's not at all like a Herborizer or a Verdamper and yet it is in some way (not that easy to break, still pristine clean).

Until now i would have wished to state that the Cloud is based on a "pass-through" concept where what you see is what you get, essentially... Without clear evidence i must refrain from doing that.

Perhaps it's not suitable for the manufacturer to show how it's built inside but my opinion is that it would be a good idea to emphasise the pass-through feature with a graphically explicit video, for example, since it seems like photographs hardly render this aspect clearly enough. Movement often helps with spacial perception... Additionally, another video could demonstrate how convenient it is to deal with glass when cleaning up.

While i'm at it, i've read the Cloud won't sell without a water toy: there will be 2 kits if i'm not mistaking.

Well, i'll use this opportunity to suggest that a 3rd kit might seduce those who prefer bags like myself: an optional base built to match the bottom of a Cloud could make it simple to fit a pump just like the one i'm currently using. Bags would attach to a glass adapter that fits on the top. No re-design required, everyone would be happy and satisfied. As far as i'm concerned, if such a 3rd kit had existed a year ago then that's most probably what i would have bought...

 

[charliedontsurf]

Egzo, to my knowledge, the tube inside the unit is completely sealed all on sides, open only from the top (bowl area) and bottom (air intake). Around it is what Troi described. All the stuff we want outside of the airpath is isolated on the other side of the glass tube, as it should be.

There will a third kit available with no hydratube at a lesser price, but there is no official word as to a bag setup yet as far as I know. Pages ago I talked about using the VXC as a whip setup, a direct draw, and indeed as a bag vape. You and I both have HA 2.1 pumps, which means we'll likely be able to rig up a simple bag blowing set up for the cloud - it's just a matter of finding a piece of high temp silicone which will seal the pump's tubing to the bottom of the Cloud's air intake. The free flowing airpath and intelligent electronic temperature control would make for an absolutely amazing bag blower, and the EZ load bowl is even sealed on top and bottom so air can go in both directions with the current design. Any part of this concept might be bad for the Cloud's design, or the bottom of the tube might be too hot for conventional hi temp silicone. We'll see.

 

[IAmKrazy2]

Ok. The vxc was designed from the ground up to be the best vape for use vaping thru water. The HT isn't just an option, it is the ideal tool to use with the vxc. Rigging up a bag would just be an afterthought. Sure, it could work, and work well but your missing the point. Most agree that glass provides better taste than a bag, and ill venture to say bags are not the future of vaping, point. IMO that is like buying an awesome sports car, and never taking it on the highway. it wouldn't be using its full potential imo.

 

[charliedontsurf]

Filling hydratubes is of course the Cloud's raison d'etre, I just can't help but looks at its other possibilities and be excited. In my mind it's the closest thing to an ultimate vapor engine right now and I'm just thinking of different ways to harness it.

 

[stonemonkey55]

I see.

There's a secret i'm going to share with you people: when i have a discussion with potential vaporists and they asked for my opinion i tell them the Cloud is on top of a short list of favourites because the shell appears to be sturdy, similarily to my HerbalAire, and yet this is a 100 % GonG product - meaning it's not at all like a Herborizer or a Verdamper and yet it is in some way (not that easy to break, still pristine clean).

Until now i would have wished to state that the Cloud is based on a "pass-through" concept where what you see is what you get, essentially... Without clear evidence i must refrain from doing that.

Perhaps it's not suitable for the manufacturer to show how it's built inside but my opinion is that it would be a good idea to emphasise the pass-through feature with a graphically explicit video, for example, since it seems like photographs hardly render this aspect clearly enough. Movement often helps with spacial perception... Additionally, another video could demonstrate how convenient it is to deal with glass when cleaning up.

While i'm at it, i've read the Cloud won't sell without a water toy: there will be 2 kits if i'm not mistaking.

Well, i'll use this opportunity to suggest that a 3rd kit might seduce those who prefer bags like myself: an optional base built to match the bottom of a Cloud could make it simple to fit a pump just like the one i'm currently using. Bags would attach to a glass adapter that fits on the top. No re-design required, everyone would be happy and satisfied. As far as i'm concerned, if such a 3rd kit had existed a year ago then that's most probably what i would have bought...

This video should give you a good view of what you are looking for.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50dfXRqAz5Q

 

[Egzoset]

...bags are not the future of vaping, point.

My understanding is that there are approaches based on exclusions while others include alternatives - i prefer the later scenario and especially if i'm expected to spend a significant amount of my money as a potential customer.

...

This video should give you a good view...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50dfXRqAz5Q

Thank you, i'll convey the information...

 

[IAmKrazy2]

...bags are not the future of vaping, point.

My understanding is that there are approaches based on exclusions while others include alternatives - i prefer the later scenario and especially if i'm expected to spend a significant amount of my money as a potential customer.

...

This video should give you a good view...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50dfXRqAz5Q

Thank you, i'll convey the information...

Hope you guys like the video. Good time to release that one SM.

@ Egzoset. Please quote my entire post, or at the very least entire paragraph in the future. It does not matter much in the instance above, but you have OFTEN taken quotes of mine and others completely out of context. In this instance, and several other, you don't even quote my entire sentence. I mean shit you could take 5 or 6 words in a row out of any writing and completely change the point as you often do. I really want to get an Oracle soon, as you know. But it is so odd you jump into the Oracle thread, stir things up, claim you'll never come back, and then comeback anyways. Then you come to a thread about a brand new water tool vape, and start asking questions about bags... Its just a little odd, that's all.

I see value in bags. Great for easy use, parties, and require little to no technique in the actual inhalation process. As i said maybe 4 months ago when i first tried a VXC, if a bag adapter was ever made available for the VXC id probably buy it (im sure the quote is somewhere in these pages).

The vast majority of vapor connoisseurs would agree more glass equals better taste. Myself, SM55 and many others vaporize out of glass almost exclusively as our preferred inhalation delivery method. I can see your (Egzoset) desire for versatility, but IMO you will always be forced to hook up your own rig, if you wish to blow bags with the VXC.

 

[Egzoset]

@ Egzoset. ...you... ...you... ...you... ...you... ...you... ...you... ...you... ...you...

Thank YOU for being so worried about ME, i'm almost flattered to become THE TOPIC in a multitude of threads - i guess!...

 

[IAmKrazy2]

@ Egzoset. ...you... ...you... ...you... ...you... ...you... ...you... ...you... ...you...

Thank YOU for being so worried about ME, i'm almost flattered to become THE TOPIC in a multitude of threads - i guess!...

My only worry is another quote taken out of context that completly changes the meaning of the post.

Ps. Your above post was so insiteful.