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VapCap Induction Heater for Desktop and in Car Use

Discussion in 'DIY' started by Pipes, Nov 23, 2016.

  1. Space-Chimp

    Space-Chimp New Member

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  2. cybrguy

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    I have thought about that, and do unplug it sometimes, but it is never warm and shouldn't use much power so I haven't been very concerned about it. I think all these power bricks consume SOME energy at rest (there is an led for example) but this one seems fine.
    Leaving it plugged in may reduce its lifetime some, but I'm not sure.

    @Pipes please tell us what you think, as my thinking its OK to leave it plugged in is just a guess, and it would be simple enough to unplug it. I have one of those watt miser things around here somewhere but I can never find it when I need it. :rolleyes:

    Added: OK, I found my kill-a-watt thing. Looks like it consumes about .5 watts at rest. I did one test with switch engaged and it went to about 85 watts.
     
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  3. just_the_flu

    just_the_flu they say im crazy but i have a have a good time

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    ...those of you with a skeletor, how did/do you house them? or do you use them naked?



    ...sitting on the fence between getting a skeletor sooner than later... or waiting the time for a portside mini...
     
  4. bossman

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    @cybrguy what switch? I don't see a switch on the Jarhead or the power brick.

    Thanks for all that detailed input about power consumption etc.
     
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  5. cybrguy

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    Switch engaged meaning the VC is pressed down into the receiver.
     
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  6. Pipes

    Pipes Addicted DIY Enthusiast Accessory Maker

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    It's fine to leave the JH plugged in. No current flows until the tube switch is pushed and activated. :)
     
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  7. bossman

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    Copy that, thanks again.

    The Jarhead really is handy. I never thought I minded the torches. In my limited experience, the Jarhead induction heater is easier for producing consistent results.

    And of course having both options ain't too shabby.
     
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  8. cybrguy

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    Excellent... :tup: I gotta say it is really nice not to worry about batteries OR a torch. Nothing to run out...
     
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  9. danjens

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    Just received my Jarhead from pipes. Can't say enough about this heater. I feel like this is the missing link with the dynavaps.
    Torching on the go is fine, but its really nice to have on demand heat producing consistently vaped buds, every time.
    If you're on the fence, pull the trigger.
    -For reference, I am using the Jarhead with a dynavap M w/ Ti tip
     
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  10. Summer

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    Unfortunately, you have to scroll through this thread to see the previously posted housings & keep on the lookout for any highlighted imgur links. I'd start in the middle of the thread & work my way backwards towards the beginning.
     
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  11. cybrguy

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    While there are a bunch of really good Skelly enclosures, in terms of sheer beauty this is my favorite. @phattpiggie made this for Mom and I find it totally awesome. :o
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    Click to play YouTube Video
     
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  12. Summer

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    @cybrguy, I'm pretty sure he made this for momofgoons.
     
  13. wilky

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    received ps mini todat many thanks very happy,
     
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  14. cybrguy

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    Uhhh isn't that what I said? :) And of course the video has her name right there on it.
     
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  15. Summer

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    I thought you meant phattpiggie's mother. :lol: I didn't watch the video again. I just remembered momofgoons.
     
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  16. tuuwie

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    Hey all
    In my attempt to get the IH board back up and running, I scoured the local market for the MOSFETs that were recommended here by you all but I couldn't find any SMDs.
    I did manage to find a popular one that's through hole though I think - IRFZ44N. Just wondering if I can solder these on the module in anyway? Maybe off the board on some radial heatsyncs? Thoughts?
     
  17. wkndwarrior

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    Do folks using induction find the cap falls off more easily with the vertical positioning and pulling it out? I have never really had to flex the cap to get it to stay on but I imagine you might have if placing it vertical.
     
  18. bizwaxzion

    bizwaxzion Enigmatic Cannabist

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    Nope - quite the opposite actually. Since the IH is activated by a switch in the bottom of the tube there's always a bit of downward force that firmly seats the cap.
     
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  19. cybrguy

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    I go out of my way to be sure there is enough friction to keep the cap from slipping off the tip at any time, and how much squeezing it takes depends on which gen of tip I am using. I have had a too loose cap end up on my lap (in shorts no less) so I have been incentivized to avoid that. I DO want it loose enough to easily come off with a magnet so it is a compromise, but a manageable one. If it is tight enough to not fall off easily it will be fine in the IH receiver, or at least that has been my experience.

    I have no experience with using concentrates with a VC, but I can imagine a benefit of turning your device on it's side (or building your Skelly box with a horizontal receiver) to reduce gravity pulling your goods into the cap. A horizontal receiver would also allow you to keep a looser cap if you wanted that for some reason, but I would still be concerned about the cap coming off accidentally.
     
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  20. Megaton

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    My apologies, it has probably been asked before, (i tried the search to no avail) but i am trying to find a guide to build one of these bad boys, i need something that really spells it out for me as i've never built anything like this before!

    Edit: biggup to @antispleen who i also messaged who has shared another users guide with me. If anyone would like to see it let me know and i will share here if that is allowed.
     
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  21. kuzko

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    I received my Jarhead from Pipes about 6 months ago and from the beginning I was fine using it in its default “jar” but always had plans to create a custom box for it.

    Well, today, finally, I mustered up the energy to do it. I thought about making one from scratch but then I found a small box in my house that belongs to a game called “Shut the Box”. I drilled the necessary holes and fastened the Heater to the lid and it ended up being fairly easy. The only thing is I can no longer see the red light when the heater is engaged but that’s no big deal. The box is even big enough to store some DV accessories. Here’s some pics. Thanks @Pipes , she’s still going strong!

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  22. andiewill

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    Yes Please I would not mind having a look..........
     
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  23. frankbhelger

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    Alright, do I get some kind of gold star for reading through the entire thread?


    The last few pages, there have been several requests for laying it all out ect. Guys, pipes has really done an excellent job making this as easy as possible. If the world conducted business like Pipes it would be a better place.

    The lithium battery aspect of this is about the only way to make this project simpler. If you want a happy medium between the portside and the jarhead just grab something like a 5ah 12v sla battery from amazon. These batteries are much larger and heavier but they still allow you to carry it to your front porch and enjoy the day. This battery will run the IH for a really long time. To charge it just stick any 12 volt charger on it. I would keep it under 4 amps though. Most car battery chargers will have a 2 amp option and this should be perfect.

    (Random side thought on battery basics. There has been a bit of confusion. From what I know, keep your lithium batteries in the 20-80% charge range as often as possible. This will ensure you get maximum life out them. Stopping at 80% will be tough but anything to keep the batteries from setting at the tip top voltage will keep them functioning longer. If you charge it to 100% go grab the dynavap and bring the voltage down a bit ;). For lead acid (SLA) batteries keep those topped off as often as you can. Try to never discharge them more than %50 and it will be solid for many years to come. )

    OK here is my slightly simplified version of Pipes design:

    Order online:
    Scavenge/buy local
    • 1/4 hardwood dowel (hardwood will hold up to the heat better than the softwood dowels you will find at hobby stores)
    • 18 AWG wire (this is what I used, someone chime in if this is unsafe)
    • 1/4 plywood (your local cabinet shop throws small pieces of this away everyday)
    • Hardwood block (This should be sized about 1/16th" shorter than your glass tube. Ask the cabinet shop to cut it for you if you do not have a tablesaw)
    • Wood glue and hot glue
    To hold the glass tube I drilled a hole that is larger than the Dynvap cap, but smaller than the OD of the glass tube on 2 of the 1/4 plywood pieces. Then I chamfered the holes on one side. This combined with the slightly smaller size of the wood block allows the glass tube to lock in but, at least in my case I can still easily pop it out and in if needed.

    As far as the wiring goes, it is pretty much all visible but for those that have questions, the back of the fet board is labeled.

    Vin+ is Battery+ - I soldered the red wire to the switch to under side of the screw terminal
    Vin - is Battery-
    Trig/pwm is the yellow wire from the switch
    Out+/Out- goes to the induction heater.

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  24. Summer

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    If anyone who has both the Portside & the PS mini could weigh each of them for me, I would be greatly appreciative.


    Yes, by all means share -- it's allowed. :)
     
  25. CanadianBakin

    CanadianBakin Well-Known Member

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    Mine are 544g & 364g. That's with batteries.
     
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