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[t-dub]

I no longer have it cuz I don't like carrying shit loads of batteries on me... but thinking of getting the Revolution for oils ... lol

If I may ask . . why did you need "poop loads" of batteries? Lots of friends wanting to help you test?

 

[VaporNinja]

no... cuz one pair of battery only last 10 hits... I may need more than that on a rainy day my friend

 

[Soulhunter]

FINALY i was able to wire my money to thermo vape now its just the worst part left, the waiting!!!

 

[t-dub]

no... cuz one pair of battery only last 10 hits... I may need more than that on a rainy day my friend

10 hits. Well the stuff(flowers) I am using gets me medicated like in 3 big vapor hits(essentially one set of batteries) so we are talking about getting medicated on 1 set of batteries each. If that's true then your mileage is much better than mine. There is no way you could out vape the battery supply and charger my friend unless your technique is off, or there's a problem with starting material (think coarser grind and dry) or relative humidity or temperature. I bet your unit was "hot" as well . . . I will be formulating opinions about how the TV "responds" to us, in many ways like this, in my coming review.

 

[weedemon]

I thought of another question too!

it's currently -17 degree Celsius (1.4 degree Fahrenheit) outside where i live, and i know batteries suck when they are cold (i keep my camera battery under my armpit to warm it back up so it will work again!). if i were to take this on a hike with me, would it be wise to prevent the batteries form getting cold as not to have them think they are half dead and only getting hit hits from a set?

that said i know people said this beast gets hot, so with the flower adapter on, maybe this would be a non issue as the batteries will warm up and not matter. but for the revolution? how will that fair?

FINALY i was able to wire my money to thermo vape now its just the worst part left, the waiting!!!

haha yep! me too brother! sometimes. waiting is the best part of it though. (i hope this isn't the case for the TV/Rev!) the anticipation of how awesome it's going to be. when the time is somewhat near and you are wondering... could today be the day? you are of course a week or two too early on assuming that though... LOL happens to me every time! this time i paid for the slightly more expensive shipping (still USPS though! I hate private shipping companies. ) which was offset by the discount, so thanks guys at TV!

 

[biojuggernaut]

vaporninja you obviously like your vapman; I'm afraid of user error. What made you select the vapman over the iolite/whipr. TV when are you going to look at/dissect portables that use flowers?

~Lemme guess when we donate units to the demolition team? Uh, for science!

 

[VaporNinja]

vaporninja you obviously like your vapman; I'm afraid of user error. What made you select the vapman over the iolite/whipr. TV when are you going to look at/dissect portables that use flowers?

I go hiking, trout fishing alot. Charging batteries is impossible sometimes unless i got a solar panel.but I might reorder a TV, my herb must be too moist...and I didn't like having to stir in be speaking of solar panel...I didnt like to stir the herb in between hits

 

[OF]

Gentlemen,

Not to start a run on the bank or other similar panic, but is anyone else trying bubble hash in their Revolution?

I am, but vapor production is dropping off. It's getting hot in what seems like the normal way and all but it's gummed up with the part that doesn't melt out. At least that's what it seems like. The glow is barely visible in one area (off center). Most of this came out easily on a toothpick when warm (got hard when cool).

ATM I'm boiling it to see what that brings. And wondering what I should try when it's dry again......

So not to trigger world wide anxiety attacks or anything, but is anyone trying bubble (or perhaps other 'not full melt') hashes?

TIA

OF

Edit: Hey, I did just cop one lucky break. While trying to figure out how to dry this guy out so I could continue testing (toaster oven on low?) it occurred to me to fire up the trusty PD. Not only is it a handy source of warm (hence the aroma oil cup) but it turns out the bore of the tube is exactly right to support the Revolution module. It's drying even now, nice to know the Revolution is made to take heat way higher than the PD can dish out.

 

[pecosthecat]

The is very interesting for me. My locally available concentrate is black nepalese. I wonder if the revolution would be able to handle this material.

I guess another option was to do an extraction on the nepali...

Gentlemen,

Not to start a run on the bank or other similar panic, but is anyone else trying bubble hash in their Revolution?

I am, but vapor production is dropping off. It's getting hot in what seems like the normal way and all but it's gummed up with the part that doesn't melt out. At least that's what it seems like. The glow is barely visible in one area (off center). Most of this came out easily on a toothpick when warm (got hard when cool).

ATM I'm boiling it to see what that brings. And wondering what I should try when it's dry again......

So not to trigger world wide anxiety attacks or anything, but is anyone trying bubble (or perhaps other 'not full melt') hashes?

TIA

OF

 

[Stu]

I have been wondering how water-based hash would react. It seems that the residue of such concentrates would need to be expelled at some point. Is that what you're experiencing? I can imagine how full-melt concentrates would out perform more solid concentrates, so I'm curious to see what happens with the various types of concentrates.

I guess I'll find out soon enough.

 

[jambandphan03]

 

[OF]

I have been wondering how water-based hash would react. It seems that the residue of such concentrates would need to be expelled at some point. Is that what you're experiencing? I can imagine how full-melt concentrates would out perform more solid concentrates, so I'm curious to see what happens with the various types of concentrates.

I guess I'll find out soon enough.

I'm guessing that's what I'm up against. I expected to have to clear some residue out, in fact discussed it in broad terms with 'the guys' when I visited them earlier today (about midnight here). What has me a little concerned it the coating looks almost melted on, like tar on a freshly paved street.....only much smaller.

No big deal if a way to work with it is found, for sure the unit delivered the goods for a while.

I also agree with you in that I hope to figure out what's up and for sure will be happy to pass that information on for consideration by one and all.....as is our style here.

The module is drying on my PD right now, I think I'll see how it's doing....

OK, by way of an update on my bubble hash problem, I'm running again. Although perhaps not as well as before.

After it dried out, the light inside was again barely visible in one area. There was no taste or other indication vaporizing going on. I added a small dab (maybe 1/20 gram?) of the CO2 wax I'm currently feeding the Omicron. Good stuff there. And in Revolution. Good, solid hits but I can no longer say how thick they are. After a tough day pulling on this guy just so you'll know, I'm not much of a judge. I can get started coughing if I close my eyes and think about it hard enough.

I'm not sure what to do next (after a nap to reset at least partially.....). I see two options. First go back to bubble hash. Figure it was just spent and the sponge ran dry. Ignore what it looks like, including perceptions about abstracts like density, pull resistance and so on. And forget about the no light part, I'm not even sure it's supposed to be visible at this point, the heater in Omicron isn't, right? Anyway, pretend I know what I'm doing, fling some more in when the wax dies out, and press on. Dumping the residue as best I can (can't scrape the bottom, the ceramic won't take it) and recharging when production gets slow. In such a mode, I think the unit may quickly vape off any concentrate that makes it down into contact (conduction, not convection dominates?). That's Plan A.

Plan two is to get better grounded in what's normal for the unit. Feed it more wax and get a real feel for it when it's (hopefully) running without issues. This makes less sense in that the unit is no longer virgin, but I'm not sure that matters. In this mode I expect it's going to run with surplus concentrate absorbed in the ceramic. It's this stuff, not the stuff on top melting down, that's being vaporized. The top down stuff is just melting, the real high heat is inside, that's where the vapor is happening. I bet you could seal the top fairly completely but once enough oil got down into the sponge it would deliver steady production. Or not. So much for plan number 2.

Plan number 2 (press on with wax) has the added advantage that TV can get involved should they care to. Or they can decide to go to the islands until it all blows over, their call. Plan A (go back to bubble hash and try to truly wreck it before the warranty runs out) does not have this option. Hey, maybe they'd like to help my testing? Naw, better they should make more units. Do much of this and not much else is gonna get done, trust me on that. They should do what they do best and leave the demanding stuff to us volunteers.

Anyway, another heavy session or three and hopefully it's going to run dry again. Or at least slow up. Then it's decision time, more wax or more bubble hash....... What a dilemma, eighwhat? Not the sort of thing a responsible manager would delegate off. I'll do this one myself, wouldn't be fair otherwise......

Anyway, anybody else playing with bubble hash (or maybe some of that cheap nasty dark ISO oil?)? Any thoughts? Oh, yeah, I'm sorry I'm not a video type. I don't even post photos. Fortunately others are doing a far better job than I would there, my thanks to them even if I think such videos are the least reliable 'evidence' available. No reflection on their efforts, of course, but a guy could photoshop most any thing he wanted in there (should lighting, set up and so on fail) and instantly lots of folks would know it was true...... Hey, some guys with hollowed out light bulbs put out clouds bigger than my efforts.

OF

 

[ru_frothi]

I have been wondering how water-based hash would react. It seems that the residue of such concentrates would need to be expelled at some point. Is that what you're experiencing? I can imagine how full-melt concentrates would out perform more solid concentrates, so I'm curious to see what happens with the various types of concentrates.

I guess I'll find out soon enough.

+1

yeah wondering same thing.

 

[smokum]

ThermoVape,

Are there any considerations (for us Canadians), towards setting up an authorized Canadian vendor/distributor ?

I was checking out PlanetVape thinking that for sure they'd be the ones who'd be handling this side of the border, but I don't see any mentions.

Thoughts ??

 

[pakalolo]

Oh, yeah, I'm sorry I'm not a video type. I don't even post photos. Fortunately others are doing a far better job than I would there, my thanks to them even if I think such videos are the least reliable 'evidence' available. No reflection on their efforts, of course, but a guy could photoshop most any thing he wanted in there (should lighting, set up and so on fail) and instantly lots of folks would know it was true...... Hey, some guys with hollowed out light bulbs put out clouds bigger than my efforts.

OF

I've done extensive video and photo editing. Photoshop is for still images, not video. Someone skilled with PS can makes wispy clouds more impressive without much difficulty.

Video is a different matter. Enhancing clouds after the fact would be a lot trickier, beyond the skill level of most amateur editors. The easy way to enhance the clouds is to do what has already been suggested and in fact is what that reviewer did: set up the lighting to maximize the cloud effect.

I am not a cloud person. I just want effects. Clouds to me are no better than thin vapour in delivering effects, in fact I consider them worse: wasteful, hard on the throat and lungs, and ultimately undesirable. Seeing someone waste a lot of vapour to "prove" how good a device is does not impress me at all, and in fact makes me think that person really doesn't get it.

 

[MarcellusWiley]

I'll be more interested to hear about the bubble hash type stuff too.

I have like 4gs of kief saved up from my grinder i've been meaning to do something with. was hoping I could try it out in the revolution without extracting but tbh I was thinking it prolly has too much plant material in it still. wishful thinking

 

[ThermoVape]

No worries, we're shooting the cleaning video, stand by!

 

[OF]

Another update on my quest with the Revolution, if you're up to the sad tale.

First off, when the small charge of wax ran out I was faced with deciding between Plan A (try feeding it bubble hash again and go on results) or plan number 2 (load up on wax and get a feel for how it works before fully trashing things). So I decided to do something different. Let's just say lose kief doesn't work well at all and is a PITA to remove......

Then back to more wax. A 100 mg (.1 gram) charge was poked in the window and down as best I could. Great results again. 2 or 3 serious hits (not that wussy up to temperature stuff, man size honks) per session, I just finished the fifth. 10 or 15 hits way bigger than typical Omicron hits on a tenth with some left. 100 to 150 big time tokes per gram seems a safe claim to me. I'm having melting down issues that may be wax related, a ring of it collects on the walls and rim above the ceramic insert at the bottom. I've just teased it down into the center with a toothpick for the second time (maybe third, if you count the initial load) this time using a little gentle lighter action on the outside to make it happen. Remember, this is Nickle plated Aluminum, it transfers heat much faster than the SS used in Omicron carts. A little gentle heat does the job quickly. Next test session is coming up when my head clears enough....... I'm not used to this level of intake.

In other news, I just got word back from TV (funny they're at work, must have gone to the early services?), the staining of the ceramic is normal, not to worry.

OF

 

[Soulhunter]

Wow work on a sunday Respect!

OF : Throw some non melting stuff in there I realy would like to know how it performes with that kind of consentrate Some 100 micron bubble or something

 

[weedemon]

thanks for hte tip on not using kief! I think im definately going to keep all concentrates that are of the more solid/less pure form out of my rev! I have more bho than anything else though so it's all good!


IM glad to hear it's still performing like a beast for you! even after reading your post about how the element is not lighting up as it used to.

Did TV have anything to say about the ceramic element not lighting up the same? is there anything to be worried about there?

 

[mflb_hustler]

I think some one mentioned that kief works well with the t1 mixed with herbs of course....Hey did you try any ISO hash and since you are testing why not try a small nug and see what happens

 

[BossBrew]

100 to 150 big time tokes per gram seems a safe claim to me.

100-150 hits with each hit being 10 or 15 times larger than a typical Omicron hit? Just trying to get a grasp of how much vapor this thing produces!

What are you opinions about the taste using the Revolution?

 

[mflb_hustler]

Hey TV are there any near future plans to make this product even more discreet...say a laser or light adapter...i see some ecig mods already cover this add on....It would just be soo cool to go from vaping in the bathroom and switching to the laser pointer to start a powerpoint presentation from the same device ...oh the possibilities..just remember to keep us in the loop.

 

[weedemon]

Hey TV are there any near future plans to make this product even more discreet...say a laser or light adapter...i see some ecig mods already cover this add on....It would just be soo cool to go from vaping in the bathroom and switching to the laser pointer to start a powerpoint presentation from the same device ...oh the possibilities..just remember to keep us in the loop.

I like that idea and could totally see myself leaving the laze part on just to hide what it really is!

 

[ThermoVape]

Gentlemen,

Not to start a run on the bank or other similar panic, but is anyone else trying bubble hash in their Revolution?

I am, but vapor production is dropping off. It's getting hot in what seems like the normal way and all but it's gummed up with the part that doesn't melt out. At least that's what it seems like. The glow is barely visible in one area (off center). Most of this came out easily on a toothpick when warm (got hard when cool).
.

OF you are on top of it. The issue with solid concentrates is they have a lot of plant matter. Percentages may vary but plant matter to component ratios can be pretty high, flirting with 50%. That plant material does not reach combustion temperature, so the plant material is trapped in the Revolution. These types of solid, hard concentrates should be loaded for just a few inhalations, then tapped out, fished out with a toothpick or similar. The Revolution has a much larger capacity for higher grade concentrates, as there is virtually no plant matter it runs much cleaner.

On the issue of solid concentrates, is it hard to clean or delicate inside? Could i use a ssv pick to scrape it out or would i risk damaging it? I would think putting in solid hash or kief might get messy in there?

It can be damage, as it is a porous ceramic it is not as tough as the core we use in ThermoVape. Boiling the Revolution is the best way to clean it. We have a cleaning video uploading now.

Hi,
No, i meant a 12 Volts drop-in replacement module taking place of the whole battery-holder section, to avoid any battery-related delay whenever possible.

Later this year. We are working on it.

how many hits does the battery last?

The higher the purity of the concentrate, the longer the run time. This is because the device runs more efficiently with higher purity concentrates having a shorter ramp time. The rest is very dependent on style, our testers were getting between 50 and 100 per charge, some maybe less becauseof style and definition of "hit" someones 5 second inhale may be another persons 1 minute chain vape.

I thought of another question too!

it's currently -17 degree Celsius (1.4 degree Fahrenheit) outside where i live, and i know batteries suck when they are cold (i keep my camera battery under my armpit to warm it back up so it will work again!). if i were to take this on a hike with me, would it be wise to prevenYt the batteries form getting cold as not to have them think they are half dead and only getting hit hits from a set?

that said i know people said this beast gets hot, so with the flower adapter on, maybe this would be a non issue as the batteries will warm up and not matter. but for the revolution? how will that fair?
!

No worries with the cold. The ThermoVape will readily warm the batteries. As an added bonus it works as a 30 Watt handwarmer too!
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Seriously though, cold temperature, elevation etc. will not stop your from performing.

ThermoVape,

Are there any considerations (for us Canadians), towards setting up an authorized Canadian vendor/distributor ?

I was checking out PlanetVape thinking that for sure they'd be the ones who'd be handling this side of the border, but I don't see any mentions.

Thoughts ??

We are working on it currently. Won't be long for you guys, until then we ship globally.

I'll be more interested to hear about the bubble hash type stuff too.

I have like 4gs of kief saved up from my grinder i've been meaning to do something with. was hoping I could try it out in the revolution without extracting but tbh I was thinking it prolly has too much plant material in it still. wishful thinking

The higher the plant material content, the better it will work mixed in with plant material and ran through the ThermoVape t1, and the less suited it is to be ran through the Revolution.

Did TV have anything to say about the ceramic element not lighting up the same? is there anything to be worried about there?

The element get harder to see as the ceramic gets stained with the color of the oil, much like the enamel on your teeth change color if you drink black coffee everyday. It does not effect the temperature of the Revolution. The ceramic just gets darker with use.

Hey TV are there any near future plans to make this product even more discreet...say a laser or light adapter...i see some ecig mods already cover this add on....It would just be soo cool to go from vaping in the bathroom and switching to the laser pointer to start a powerpoint presentation from the same device ...oh the possibilities..just remember to keep us in the loop.

Yes, yes there are plans for such modular adapters, flashlight, laser pointer.... the list goes on.

Cheers,

ThermoVape