Discontinued Thermovape Cera

[toros23]

hahaha Thanks toro23, that made my day!!!!
I have not show this one yet, only because I cant find that type of silicone grommet Iam using.
basically its a silicone tip for a electric nasal aspirater(lol, I know), it came with multiple tips and this one didnt get used so I cut tip off and added over 510 drip tip to adapt to 14MM.
WORKS PERFECT!! Perfect seal

Yeah, man.. Your lung capacity is impressive!

That is a cool adapter, looks like it works well. BTW, have you checked out this adapter from TET?

I've noticed when I use the CEO on my glass pieces, the air flow is fairly restricted. Am I using too big of a bubbler? (Lev Lattice Bubbler)

Some of us are missing a screw in our EO carts and that gives a lot more airflow.

 

[nopartofme]

I've noticed when I use the CEO on my glass pieces, the air flow is fairly restricted. Am I using too big of a bubbler? (Lev Lattice Bubbler)

Are you using the stock mouthpiece? I think the combination of that mouthpiece with water pipes might lead to more restriction than desirable. I don't actually have any glass, or an oil cart, so you can take my advice with a grain of salt, but I think a different mouthpiece setup on the Cera might be preferable when using with water.

 

[Vaporiffic]

Your welcome, hopefully others can use it too

Well I mean there's a 50 volt limit, what value do the cera have without charger and batteries? 3.7 volt like the batteries or?

No I haven't written Zeki I will after this post, though I think he's on weekend - maybe OF got some info for us if he gets on later.

Vaporiffic

 

[BLAZING OG]

Yeah, man.. Your lung capacity is impressive!

That is a cool adapter, looks like it works well. BTW, have you checked out this adapter from TET?

Some of us are missing a screw in our EO carts and that gives a lot more airflow.

Yes I have seen it , does it fiit cera? if so it might be a nice addition!!!
Thanks

 

[timmahsan]

I am using blazing OG's drip tip mod and the thermal sleeve. Never got the oring pack with it originally. I just thought that the sleeve was the replacement.

 

[OF]

I live in Denmark, and I just wanted to make sure the charger is adaptable. The chargers says 120v and the wall sockets here, besides being different shapes, are 220/230v. Now I'm no electrician by a long shot, but I was thinking just going to an electronics store and buying an adapter - but will it work with the different volts?

Secondly have anyone tried to smoke good ol' regular Moroccan hash in the cera? If so how was your experience?

Howdy, great choice IMO. To answer your questions, yes 220 Volts is fine, but you'll need either an adapter for the plug or a small 12 VDC supply to fit your mains there.

Yes, your hash should be fine. I assume you're talking about the pressed hash of my youth? You want to grind or crumble it up to get as much surface areas as possible then use the LL version (not the oil cart). It works very well in fact.

Good luck with it, once you get it in your hands and try it out I'm sure you'll figure it all out.

Yes I have seen it , does it fiit cera? if so it might be a nice addition!!!

Yes it does, and yes it is.....

OF

 

[toros23]

Yes I have seen it , does it fiit cera? if so it might be a nice addition!!!
Thanks

I agree with OF, it is a nice little adapter for the Cera. Really sturdy and fits 14 or 18mm joints. Here is a link for anyone who needs it:

http://thermovape.force.com/IdaProductDetail?id=01t50000001qlGrAAI

 

[Vaporiffic]

Thx for the reply OF, maybe you or some other vapor specialist can help us out here. Ok, now me and herbalist23 have been discussing how best to go about ordering these lovelies to Europe. The problem is, that we can't import anything using over 50 volts AC without it having the european CE certification. So the 120 volt charger is out for sure, but are we able to order the Cera without the charger + batteries and sneak in under the 50 volt limit?

Vaporiffic

 

[nopartofme]

Thx for the reply OF, maybe you or some other vapor specialist can help us out here. Ok, now me and herbalist23 have been discussing how best to go about ordering these lovelies to Europe. The problem is, that we can't import anything using over 50 volts AC without it having the european CE certification. So the 120 volt charger is out for sure, but are we able to order the Cera without the charger + batteries and sneak in under the 50 volt limit?

Vaporiffic

Yes, when you add go to buy a Cera on thermovape.com you can uncheck the tick boxes next to the charger and battery before checking out.

 

[Herbalist23]

Your welcome, hopefully others can use it too

Well I mean there's a 50 volt limit, what value do the cera have without charger and batteries? 3.7 volt like the batteries or?

No I haven't written Zeki I will after this post, though I think he's on weekend - maybe OF got some info for us if he gets on later.

Vaporiffic

Yes, I would say its maximum 4,2V (max charge), but if you dont order the batteries its just table ware (ceramics and steel)- like OF said once- so you dont even scratch the 50 volt limit!?

Would be nice to hear what Zeki respond to you.

EDIT: Maybe Tim could chime in and clear things up about CE certification?

TIA, Herbalist23

 

[Vaporiffic]

I see, I did figure it would be about the same as the battery just wanted to make sure.
Yea I'll let you know what he replies. Wondering if I should just order it now though, seems like no problem without the charger, I could even get the batteries aswell.
And btw about those batteries from the German site. You sure they'll fit, I mean the difference in height/lenght is only 0,1 mm but the diameter is 0,5 mm - I don't now tight the batteries are fitted and if this would matter?

I did notice you can uncheck the charger and battery it's was more related to the 50 volts, thank you for the heads up though nopartofme

Vaporiffic

 

[OF]

Thx for the reply OF, maybe you or some other vapor specialist can help us out here. Ok, now me and herbalist23 have been discussing how best to go about ordering these lovelies to Europe. The problem is, that we can't import anything using over 50 volts AC without it having the european CE certification. So the 120 volt charger is out for sure, but are we able to order the Cera without the charger + batteries and sneak in under the 50 volt limit?

Vaporiffic

I should think so. And even so, the charger itself is 12 Volts DC. It's in two pieces. The 'wall wort' supply feeds 12 VDC from the mains so you should also be able to buy that much I'd think and get a local mains to 12 VDC converter?

Yes, if it were me I'd order the cera (and carts) alone and get the batteries and charger locally. You know the ideal batteries to buy and good chargers can be found I'm sure.

But without batteries or anything that plugs in anywhere you'd think it's of no more concern than a flashlight.

Good luck. I'm sure you'll find the unit worth the effort.

OF

 

[Vaporiffic]

I should think so. And even so, the charger itself is 12 Volts DC. It's in two pieces. The 'wall wort' supply feeds 12 VDC from the mains so you should also be able to buy that much I'd think and get a local mains to 12 VDC converter?

Yes, if it were me I'd order the cera (and carts) alone and get the batteries and charger locally. You know the ideal batteries to buy and good chargers can be found I'm sure.

But without batteries or anything that plugs in anywhere you'd think it's of no more concern than a flashlight.

Good luck. I'm sure you'll find the unit worth the effort.

OF

Well thx again OF.

Sry but I don't fully understand what you said about the charger, I just saw at thermovape It's 120 volts and figured a no go - if you got a minute feel free to elaborate
And yes Herbalist linked me to a German web shop that have both the Panasonic NCR18650PD – 2900mAh, 3,7V and the Panasonic CGR 18650 CH 2250mAh 3,6V listed in vaporpedia, so that should not be that big an effort.

And about the hash ( forgot to answer you there OF sry) yes it is the pressed stuff from your youth Now that goes in the LL cart I'm with you there, but what if I extract using butane gas from either plant material or the hash itself, will this classify for the oil cart?
I been reading a bit about it earlier in the post but couldn't specify exactly what category this sort of extraction goes under.

Thank you
Vaporiffic

 

[Vaporiffic]

Update on my NEW LL cart. As I said in previous posts that it got hot much quicker and burned much more brilliant and it was combusting a bit at the end of a draw. I preferred my older LL cart much better even though it starts slower and runs cooler.

From my perspective I have experienced a definite break-in period with the new LL cart. After a couple of days of frequent use this new cart functions almost identical to my old LL cart (slower and cooler — like the caterpillar in Alice in Wonderland). I just thought I would share my experience for those that get a new Cera it is possible your LL cart may require a short break-in period before it optimizes and settles down.

Thx for the heads up as I'm about to purchase

Vaporiffic

 

[Herbalist23]

I see, I did figure it would be about the same as the battery just wanted to make sure.
Yea I'll let you know what he replies. Wondering if I should just order it now though, seems like no problem without the charger, I could even get the batteries aswell.
And btw about those batteries from the German site. You sure they'll fit, I mean the difference in height/lenght is only 0,1 mm but the diameter is 0,5 mm - I don't now tight the batteries are fitted and if this would matter?

I did notice you can uncheck the charger and battery it's was more related to the 50 volts, thank you for the heads up though nopartofme

Vaporiffic

I'm sure they'll fit, the NCR are stated at 18,6mm and the CGR at 18,1mm.
The Ceras outer diameter is 1 inch (2,54cm), and what I've seen on some pictures the wall of the Cera tube
must be about 3-4mm, so there must be about 3mm space around the NCR, but maybe OF can tell us more
about the exact dimensions of the Cera?

 

[aj0125]

are we able to order the Cera without the charger + batteries and sneak in under the 50 volt limit?

As far as I know that would work just fine. Good Luck.

 

[Vaporiffic]

As far as I know that would work just fine. Good Luck.

Thank you

Vaporiffic

 

[OF]

Well thx again OF.

Sry but I don't fully understand what you said about the charger, I just saw at thermovape It's 120 volts and figured a no go - if you got a minute feel free to elaborate

And about the hash ( forgot to answer you there OF sry) yes it is the pressed stuff from your youth Now that goes in the LL cart I'm with you there, but what if I extract using butane gas from either plant material or the hash itself, will this classify for the oil cart?

You're welcome.

The charger comes in two pieces with a six foot cable between. One plugs into the wall and outputs 12 VDC. This would be an issue with CE. The other part gets powered by 12 VDC (not the mains directly) and does the charging function. I see no reason why you couldn't have TV ship you the second half since it's 12 Volts or less:
http://www.amazon.com/Tenergy-2-Channel-Li-ion-Battery-Charger/dp/B004HGM4YI

Cool on the hash, I think you'll like vaping it in the Cera LL cart.....much better than smoking it for sure. Yes, if you do extraction of the essential oils (either from the Herb directly or hash, the source doesn't matter) then it belongs in the EO cart instead. A good test is to heat some on a piece of foil with a lighter underneath. If it melt quickly, flows easily and completely evaporates off (leaving at most a tiny spot) it's clean and will work well in the EO cart. Extracts that have too much plant material in them to pass 'the foil test' should be filtered or otherwise processed until they do or mixed with herb in the LL cart since they will foul the EO cart quickly.

I'm sure they'll fit, the NCR are stated at 18,6mm and the CGR at 18,1mm.
The Ceras outer diameter is 1 inch (2,54cm), and what I've seen on some pictures the wall of the Cera tube
must be about 3-4mm, so there must be about 3mm space around the NCR, but maybe OF can tell us more
about the exact dimensions of the Cera?

It's one inch OD, 3/4 ID (1/8 wall). However, the ground strap goes up the side taking about .020 inches away. Stay under .730 (18.5mm?) or so and you'll be fine.

I've tried maybe 15 types of 19650s (six from TV alone) and haven't had any problems with diameter.

OF

 

[Custom Flower Hardware]

Update on my NEW LL cart. As I said in previous posts that it got hot much quicker and burned much more brilliant and it was combusting a bit at the end of a draw. I preferred my older LL cart much better even though it starts slower and runs cooler.

From my perspective I have experienced a definite break-in period with the new LL cart. After a couple of days of frequent use this new cart functions almost identical to my old LL cart (slower and cooler — like the caterpillar in Alice in Wonderland). I just thought I would share my experience for those that get a new Cera it is possible your LL cart may require a short break-in period before it optimizes and settles down.

Same here Steama. When I first got the LL cart that thing lit up the sky and it vaped way fast. I'd say after a week of moderarte use (10 bowls per day) it settled in and just like a good engine began to flow without a hiccup.

 

[aj0125]

Update on my NEW LL cart. As I said in previous posts that it got hot much quicker and burned much more brilliant and it was combusting a bit at the end of a draw. I preferred my older LL cart much better even though it starts slower and runs cooler.

From my perspective I have experienced a definite break-in period with the new LL cart. After a couple of days of frequent use this new cart functions almost identical to my old LL cart (slower and cooler — like the caterpillar in Alice in Wonderland). I just thought I would share my experience for those that get a new Cera it is possible your LL cart may require a short break-in period before it optimizes and settles down.

Honestly, I think this 'break-in period' phenomenon you and others (myself included) are experiencing explains my early combustion issues with my Cera. In the beginning my Cera combusted like crazy with a fine or medium grind, but now I couldn't get her to combust with any grind even if I wanted to. This 'break-in' period must be the reason...?

 

[Vaporiffic]

You're welcome.

The charger comes in two pieces with a six foot cable between. One plugs into the wall and outputs 12 VDC. This would be an issue with CE. The other part gets powered by 12 VDC (not the mains directly) and does the charging function. I see no reason why you couldn't have TV ship you the second half since it's 12 Volts or less:
http://www.amazon.com/Tenergy-2-Channel-Li-ion-Battery-Charger/dp/B004HGM4YI

Cool on the hash, I think you'll like vaping it in the Cera LL cart.....much better than smoking it for sure. Yes, if you do extraction of the essential oils (either from the Herb directly or hash, the source doesn't matter) then it belongs in the EO cart instead. A good test is to heat some on a piece of foil with a lighter underneath. If it melt quickly, flows easily and completely evaporates off (leaving at most a tiny spot) it's clean and will work well in the EO cart. Extracts that have too much plant material in them to pass 'the foil test' should be filtered or otherwise processed until they do or mixed with herb in the LL cart since they will foul the EO cart quickly.



It's one inch OD, 3/4 ID (1/8 wall). However, the ground strap goes up the side taking about .020 inches away. Stay under .730 (18.5mm?) or so and you'll be fine.

I've tried maybe 15 types of 19650s (six from TV alone) and haven't had any problems with diameter.

OF

Well thx again that explanation made it all clear
Sounds like I need both carts then, I'll be making some of my own for sure once I get this, supposedly it should last longer/hit harder too when vaping, can't wait to try it out.
The carts won't have any impact on the whole voltage limit thing right?

Vaporiffic

 

[aj0125]

supposedly it should last longer/hit harder too when vaping, can't wait to try it out.
The carts won't have any impact on the whole voltage limit thing right?

The oil cart for Cera is epic, unlike any portable oil piece I have ever hit, those who call it a 'portable nail' are not fucking around.

Should you chose to get both LL and EO carts they should not be an issue with the voltage limit.

 

[YeeeBuddy]

Yea I have never felt the need to clean mine, I just take a straw and blow It out after every session, works great esp when it's still hot. I agree with the LL break in, mine seems to have mellowed out as well. I can't combust no matter what I try, even with my sawdust like grind.

 

[BLAZING OG]

Howdy, great choice IMO. To answer your questions, yes 220 Volts is fine, but you'll need either an adapter for the plug or a small 12 VDC supply to fit your mains there.

Yes, your hash should be fine. I assume you're talking about the pressed hash of my youth? You want to grind or crumble it up to get as much surface areas as possible then use the LL version (not the oil cart). It works very well in fact.

Good luck with it, once you get it in your hands and try it out I'm sure you'll figure it all out.



Yes it does, and yes it is.....

OF

Thanks OF, I was wondering since it said not for use with cera, but I KNEW I COULD ADAPT it somehow!!
Gotta get one !!!

I agree with OF, it is a nice little adapter for the Cera. Really sturdy and fits 14 or 18mm joints. Here is a link for anyone who needs it:

http://thermovape.force.com/IdaProductDetail?id=01t50000001qlGrAAI

Thanks toro23, good call on that adapter, mine works excellent, but id rather have something nice rather than my temporary ghetto mod lol lol

 

[Vaporiffic]

The oil cart for Cera is epic, unlike any portable oil piece I have ever hit, those who call it a 'portable nail' are not fucking around.

Should you chose to get both LL and EO carts they should not be an issue with the voltage limit.

Thank you, man it's torture having to wait for Zekis response, I wanna order it now!

Vaporiffic