I apologize if the Tube was not to your liking -- we would like to know how we could prevent missed expectations in the future. This is especially important for us to know as we would not like to have you similarly disappointed in the Box as well, even if we were to make an exception and 'exchange' a Tube for a Box. In what sense can this be made right in your view and still remain ultimately fair?NoSmoke said:
its very durable but peace of mind is nice
Arrangements have been made for some experimental batches to be done -- some of which have been started. I expect it will be about four weeks before we have some sample Red Oak and Maple units. In this sort of process, these things can take time (a sort of 'manufacturing momentum', metaphorically speaking).Acolyte of Zinglon said:
Well I said what dissapointed me about the LT ( Screen Sensitivity, loading & unloading, and VTA ratio) and these things IMO make it an inefficient portable/one hit vape, and im very happy you guys see where im coming from, thats a great plus in a company especially in todays times. The way I see it the LT should not be sold for the same price as the LB, because the LB as Sticks said can be used as both a one hit and full vape session portable (which I think is awesome!) and has the same method of delivery minus the whip, which I believe has been removed from the basic package. I think you guys should try to drop the price on the LT thats it, that in my eyes makes it more sensible of an option. And early adopters of the LT who then choose buy a LB can be discounted the price difference. I just honestly dont see these two vapes selling side by side if one is more effective then the other, the only way is with a price difference. Am I completly wrong here? If I am im sorry.magicflight said:
thats the thing Kingcrismson they dont do two different things. The LT was supposed to have better user visibility (which no offense is IMO that not important look at the PD, granted its a set temp) but it also turns out thru user feedback that the visibility is fine on the LB, and it can be used as a one hit vape! its like the SSV and Da Buddha almost the same just one is better, hence the price difference. Im sorry about going on and on about the same thing, im not trying to offend I think Magic-Flight is an awesome upstart company, with some of the best customer service ive seen anywhere, im just letting my opinion be known.kingcrimson said:it seems as though they do indeed do two different things and even serve two markets. I'd have possibly considered an LT but an LB fit my bill for sure. others may be different I havn't studied their demographic so perhaps, perhaps not.
eeek! i just got my confirm from blissvile! Shipping as soon as its made, on or before the 15th! excitement! joy! Am also stoked to hear about the process starting on sample different wood type models.
w/it.
it gives the perfect amount of air flow to get those extra creamy rips...try it and tell me I'm wrong. I don't even give a fuck if you do...that method works for me so I'm happily content.duh said:
If you consider them creamy, I know they are certified creamy! with some users (maybe most) on this forum you just know its not bs and Hennessy is one of them.Hennessy1414 said:it gives the perfect amount of air flow to get those extra creamy rips...try it and tell me I'm wrong. I don't even give a fuck if you do...that method works for me so I'm happily content.duh said:
I see the points you are making, and for the future, it is likely that something in that direction will eventually happen -- possible future price adjustments and discounts for early adpotors. At the moment, the price is defined by mostly by factors outside of our direct control. As things progress, it will be easier to make adjustments -- we would like to be able to reduce the price on both the Box and the Tube. Until then, please be patient with us while we get things finalized with the BoxNoSmoke said:
fuck ya man i tried it right after i heard of it from u and i was so blazed i forgot to post about it haha but its hard not to get a perfect rip like that but on the go i just cover it like a carbHennessy1414 said:it gives the perfect amount of air flow to get those extra creamy rips...try it and tell me I'm wrong. I don't even give a fuck if you do...that method works for me so I'm happily content.duh said:
I kno I sure as hell amAhhh. Then I did do it right and I think you may have something there. It pulls the material closer to the screen by sucking air on the pinhole. Then, when you draw through the large air outtake on the side - the chamber is vapor filled. I'll have to practice this and report back.Hennessy1414 said:to any of you who could understand that then congrats
The butane is completly separate from the chamber.duh said:Ahhh. Then I did do it right and I think you may have something there. It pulls the material closer to the screen by sucking air on the pinhole. Then, when you draw through the large air outtake on the side - the chamber is vapor filled. I'll have to practice this and report back.Hennessy1414 said:to any of you who could understand that then congrats
The IO is butane based so it's not quite an apples to apples (butane sucks). The Volatizer VM3 however, is battery powered and priced at $449.00. Of course, it uses a special battery that isn't as good as the LB which uses AA re-chargables.
2tiki, I want a bandolier that hold a bunch of silver bullets (LB Batteries) along w/a hoster for the LB!
That may be so, but it needs to be factored into the cost of the upkeep on the unit. No butane=no meds just like for the electronic vapes, no power=no meds. I would much rather try to find and deal w/AAs all day long than nasty gases. Of course kc's "GonG 'Vapor Globe'" uses diesel - so I guess it's all about people's tolerance for their rigs.NoSmoke said:
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(the last comment was actually made by someone who has raved about the Iolite Beta unit he used, saying that it is much better than the original Iolite which is virtually identical, and expressed concern about inhaling electricity 
--sorry hennessy...it is all true, right?). Maybe think before you comment?. I hope that this next comment doesn't come off as a shill, but the MF products look VERY promising (pocket-sized, relatively cheap, and runs on one AA 
), and I respect their interest in R&D (as well as their involvement with the community) a great deal. I would love to see a glass unit like the MFbox for which you could get cheap/replaceable guts (so you could vacation with it, toss the guts and return home with layovers anywhere despite laws--or even possibly just a MFbox with a wooden lid for plasticiphobes--can always slide paper under the plexiglass until then ). I definitely think that the box vs the tube show that the potential for future MF progress is high (and you all know about how I feel about progress ) PS: I should have read about lid material (there were 4 posts with the word lid and plexiglass in them--my bad 
). PSS: To see the boogieman, just keep refilling and repeating until he spontaneously appears. ) <---that wasn't very mature of me...lol
lolol I know this isn't the place but 'diesel' was an meant as a description not a literal need for the torch.duh said:
Progress said:......and (the funniest of all) ......
whatever man keep thinking of the past and what I have quoted. I was simply saying that the LB is quality just like the IO is...only a cheaper alternative. Both vapes require you to lug around its power supply so that's where I was coming from when made the comparison.I can see how he got that one mixed up because you said you lit the bowl with diesel fuel. should have said the right thing in the first place. people love to get mixed up after allkingcrimson said:
