The Magic-Flight Box

My Magic Flight is still going strong after 2 years. My screen got messed up with Kief like qcee but it is ok now. I used the wall power adapter to cook the screen a few times.

I think there's three good reasons to not like the MFLB:

Operation: While a simple design, it's not user friendly. Lots of charging, pushing to make a contact, requires precise operation with little headroom for error.

Effect: For some people the MFLB just does not cut it. I could never get as high as I wanted to be with the MFLB because of how hard you have to work for such comparatively little vapor. The vapor is near 100% conduction effect, and has a huge comedown that makes me super tired. I go for convection vapes now.

And finally? The fanboys. I should be careful how I proceed here, since there's a lot of MFLB masters on this site that would not fall into this category; but there is a huge community of people who do nothing but praise the MFLB as the best vape in the world. It's huge on Grasscity. You open up threads on totally unrelated things, like "Should I buy a volcano" or "Best plug in vape" and you'll have thee, four people going on about how great the MFLB is without even reading the thread.

Kind of sounds like the solo here on FC. I have shared my launch Box with a bunch of people and only a few were too dense to be able to use it. Most got it down in a few hits it ain't rocket science or anything.

I'm a MFLB Master . LOL

I don't know if I'd agree with this sentiment. I don't think what is going on at GC can be drawn in parallel to what goes on here, with any vaporizer. Here, people discuss vapes on their merits. If you say something as fact, you'd better be able to back it up if someone questions it. And you get a wide cross-section of opinions on all sorts of different vapes.

At Grasscity, and some parts of reddit, people see their choice of vaporizer as an extension of their own personalities. If you do not unequivocally agree with their choice, you are insulting a part of their very essence and they get very defensive, angry and usually end up saying anything to make it seem like they are right and you are wrong. For these communities, it's usually the MFLB. Thank goodness this does not happen much here, as in my opinion it embarrasses all vaporists when it happens, making us look like pedantic, territorial children. I enjoy reading this thread because it is one of the few places to get information about the box without letting fanboyism get in the way of the fact.

When I posted that post, it was in reply to a thread that was entitled "Why do some people dislike the MFLB". These aren't so much all my own reasons for disliking the box as they are what I think may be the reasons other people don't like the box. For me, it's just the high - I just don't like the tired high I get off of it. It's not so much about being able to master the box - I have (made a video a while back when someone tried to claim I just didn't like it because I couldn't use it) and still don't like it, but I appreciate it on it's own pro's and cons rather than affiliation with another product.

Did you mean to post the previous post in here? Or in the "Why do some people dislike the MFLB" thread? I was wondering right when I read the first sentence.. It seemed a little left field LOL.

Yeah I meant for that to go in that thread, I just figured all the posts must have been moved in here by a moderator. Is that thread still active? If so I have no idea how I ended up in here.

Hmmm. It looks like that thread is redirecting here now??? I just found the link in the Search, and when I clicked it, it brought me here. That is kind of strange.


"Why do a lot of people dislike the mflb so much??"

@CentiZen I totally agree with you about the difference between GC and FC and yeah we all don't have to be head over heals in love with every vape or even find each useful. It would suck if there was only one vaporizer out there, Different effects on different days with different vapes makes me happy.

I can see where you're coming from. I think a lot of people do hate on the MFLB as a counter-reaction to separate themselves from what they deem as MFLB "rabble" - its kind of a shame. Personally I get the most mileage out of MFLB but I've definitely learned to handle it pretty efficiently. I've actually owned a Solo and Pax before but sold both to get another MFLB. I just like how it works for me and like the company that stands behind their product 100%. The only other vape I own now is the E-Nano. With all that said.. when a random person new to vaping asks me what my opinion for a good overall portable, I'd recommend the Solo over the MFLB because for most people its far easier to use (though I'd recommend an E-Nano over Solo by far if one doesn't care about cordless capabilities). MFLB requires a little more time to get "the feel" down for it even though its easy to operate - it can be difficult for some to get better mileage out of it.

CentiZen has an interesting observation on convection vs. conduction . The LB's conduction and short
vapor path can make the hit seem almost as harsh as combustion, but I never thought about the high of a convection hit.
The only pure convection vape I have is the Vapir 5.0 which still works after 3 years, and I must admit the high is impressive and the ABV is never scorched.
The LB takes a fair amount of virtuosity to really satisfy, and some times I just want a simple no-brainer hit, so I go to another vape.
Out in public the LB shines every time. ( Glyph batts )
As our whole community seems to be moving towards bigger and stronger vapor, the LB is being
left in the ABV.
Magicflight has to jump on the concentrate bandwagon, hint hint. ( Are you fremen listening ?)

I've never used it but MFLB does sell trays that allow you to use concentrates in their units.

I am using the concentrate trays "without" the pads for my bubble hash right now.

And they work pretty damn well! But you would need to get the power adapter to use it at its best since it's a bit taxing on batteries. It does work, just nowhere as good as using the PA I'd say.

Does the bubble residue deposit a mess on the screen? That would be my worry.

No. The bubble hash stays on the concentrate tray.

The "no-pad" tray she mentions is the one I call the "naked/blank/unscreened" tray. There's one with the screen and a small pad in the middle of it which I use ONLY with 100% full-melt stuff like BHO, CO2, etc. The naked tray has no screen or pad, it's just the shape of the metal only. That one's good for everything else from hash to bubble to kief that melts too much to be used just in the trench. You can just torch it red for 5 seconds to clean it and once it cools down you can give it a quick brush down and a little ISO if you want.

Hey guys,
While I'm not new to the concept of smoking, combustion has been my only tried and true method for years...until now. After some discussion with a few friends of mine on different ways to use our herb, vaporization was brought up. I then found myself searching the Internet and found this forum and the thing that caught my eye...the Magic-Flight Launch Box. I had experienced the LB before, but it was poor to put it nicely. Meaning neither i or its owner knew the proper technique. But now I begin to find myself interested in alternate methods and the LB has my attention. All in all, I'd like as much info as possible so I can be sure it is a sound investment. Any and all advice is welcome. Thanks.

I've tried a fair amount of vapes and the MFLB is my favorite

I also had a poor experience with the box when I first tried it. After using it a couple of times, and then eventually buying it for myself, it's turned into my favorite vape by far.

It's the most economic vape. It's really easy to control once you get a technique down (which should take less than a week of practice). It's made in the USA, a life-time warranty, and it's made with all safe materials. Oh and the batteries are user replace-able, which is great if you always carry a fresh one.

To sum it up, I really like how "bare" the MFLB is.

Outstanding attitude, IMO. I'm big on informed buying decisions, IMO it avoids a lot of wasted time and money as well as disappointments.

MFLB is indeed a great vape I think. Widely popular, and many of us have several copies. Both good signs. IMO a good choice, but given it's 'learning curve' and limited bowl size not good for all in all situations (not the best for sharing for instance).

Also well worth considering are the various VGs I think. The bat versions (with the possible exception of the glass one) can be a challenge, perhaps best to stick with more conventional designs at first (although a vape you can 'sanitize' completely in solvents is a nice feature for some). Some look very much like conventional tobacco pipes. They hare heated with a butane lighter (you heat a heat exchanger block inside, most feel there's no evil 'butane fumes' involved although some find the fire part a problem). The trade off is you can explore vaping in all it's glory this way since you have much more control of the heat than with MFLB.

You've got a lot to learn about different extraction temperatures (it can control the 'fractions' of active chemicals you draw off, like making different fuels from crude oil). VGs with their wider working temperature range lets you explore from 'wonderful flavor, but little or no high' right on through 'couch lock'.

IMO if you want to learn what vaping is all about VG is a better call. If you want to kick back and vape another load, MFLB might work out better. But I think you should also check out VG......not to worry MF will still be here when you decide to explore that (a real man needs at least one back up vape you know....). No special battery issues, you can even use a Bic lighter in an emergeny.....

Good luck, hard to go wrong with informed choices really.

OF-

MFLB is 40% off today only until 11:59 pm EST at vapeworld.com

with code: MFLB40

after discount it is $71.40 plus free shipping in continental US.

not sure what state vapeworld is in but i am in CA and punched in my zip and no tax showed up.
plus you get a free 3 piece acrylic grinder.


this seems like an awesome deal and i would get one myself but i already own two LB's.

PuffitUp also has this deal on the Finishing Grinder today

• Finishing Grinder — $26.99 Code: MFF

Here is a link to the composite all of deals for Cyber Monday

Thanks a lot. What's more outstanding than my attitude is how willing you guys are to help the newbie. So far I've really liked what I've read. I was considering a VaporGenie( that may be the VG you kept eluding to, these acronyms are still new to me.). So I've decided to hybridize yours and escierdanyc's advice. Although the MFLB is what piqued my interest initially, it'll always be there to come back after I'm done getting my feet wet in the whole vaping scene. Plus, like you said, should have a back-up available. Thanks again.

the lotus vaporizer could also be a good choice. i don't own one myself, yet, but judging by all the positive impressions in the lotus thread, you should think about checking it out. provided you have the necessary money, since it's more expensive than the VG. however, still affordable, if you ask me.