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Discussion in 'Portable Vaporizers' started by magicflight, May 16, 2009.

  1. Vicki

    Vicki The Bionic Woman

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    I used the new batteries with the concenrate tray, and got better results than when I used a different battery that I already had.
     
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  2. matthend

    matthend Well-Known Member

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    Vicki were those results comparable to the PA, or is it apples to oranges?
     
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  3. Quetzalcoatl

    Quetzalcoatl SPACE GOD 宇宙

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    I could drive it for a little bit with mine, but honestly the PA is just the easiest way. Plus the PA has the benefit of not sagging and slowly decrease in performance.
     
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  4. Notaek

    Notaek Well-Known Member

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    just had a nice morning flight, great pain relief :)
     
  5. Stu

    Stu Maconheiro Staff Member

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    While the new batteries did work to some degree with the concentrate tray, I would not recommend using them. IMO using the PA on max is the best way to use the concentrate tray. Anything less is not going to be as satisfying.

    :2c:
     
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  6. matthend

    matthend Well-Known Member

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    makes sense, I was just really dreaming of vaping this beautiful BHO on the go...
     
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  7. Vicki

    Vicki The Bionic Woman

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    Yeah, it's just better using the PA.
     
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  8. Trever

    Trever Well-Known Member

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    we need to figure out a solar panel setup for on the go using the pa ;)
     
  9. Quetzalcoatl

    Quetzalcoatl SPACE GOD 宇宙

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    We got a couple of options, you could get the PA and the car adapter plug for it for on-the-go, or you could build a power brick like OF did, and use that to drive the PA. I mean, you'll have to carry the little brick and the PA around, but at least it's mobile-ish and it works very well?
     
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  10. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

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    Actually I was doing this for a while last summer. I had a 12 Volt gel battery and small solar panel in the garden I'd plug the PA into.

    I got some 'sun grown' bud (high tech indoor being the more generally preferred types around here) and kind of enjoyed using sunlight to vape bud grown in sunlight.....

    OF
     
  11. Vicki

    Vicki The Bionic Woman

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    I mentioned that I used the PA with the car adapter while using the concentrate tray. It worked great, just like being at home!! The only down side is that you can only use it while in the car. :(
     
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  12. Pcpvapors

    Pcpvapors Well-Known Member

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    Hate I've gone back a few pages now and can't seem to find an identity for the new batteries as to what brand and spec? Anyone got an idea? I'm well over due for new batteries and would rather not buy the 6month old batts from my headshop if they've been upgraded...
     
  13. poonman

    poonman Well-Known Member

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    Did you get the regular LB or was it the Exotic wood LB ?
    I'm just wondering if they're selling the newer batteries by themselves yet .
     
  14. Pcpvapors

    Pcpvapors Well-Known Member

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    I just checked the site and it doesn't appear to be selling separately yet. However their description is "NiMH batteries" so it's really anyone's guess
     
  15. poonman

    poonman Well-Known Member

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    Hey thanx Pcp ,
    Maybe it's just a misquote .
    But bo said he got some " extra " batteries .

    It would be cool to try them out without having to but a new Exotic LB ...at least not right
    this moment ...hehe
     
  16. b0

    b0 Vapor powered

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    That 2 batteries came inside the box with the MFLB, it was a regular one (maple I think?). Apart from that the extra 3 packs of 2 batteries I bought where the usual "POWEREX AA1240-AZZA" without the logo in the cover or bottom.
     
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  17. Quetzalcoatl

    Quetzalcoatl SPACE GOD 宇宙

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    Well, the thing is, from what Magic Flight said about it to me, they actually custom-made these new MF Logo Batteries, new cell structure or something like that? They confided that it was a bit expensive to roll something like that out, which is why they only include them with the "premium kits." They may or may not be getting enough stock to sell, they didn't specifically tell me that but I infered it from the context. As for if they'll be available for sale, I don't think that's anytime in the next month or two. I mean, the Concentrate Tray isn't even officially out yet, if I were them I would be prioritizing that over getting more money for batteries. If anything, they can use the profits from the CT to make more MF Batteries. I will say though, having 4 batteries as well as two MF Batteries, I will be purchasing 4 or maybe even 6 of the MFB's as soon as I can. I like them that much. Coincidentally, I've lit trenches on fire (actual cherries and smoke and all) with the MFB's. Not even my Powerex 2700's got me to that point right off the charger. They've got a kick to them, and I love it.
     
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  18. axakal

    axakal Well-Known Member

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    i asked magic flight about the new batteries and they replied, that they will try to equip the maple kits with the special cells starting this summer. this will also include the european resellers. no word of selling the new cells separately, though.
     
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  19. b0

    b0 Vapor powered

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    I bought a maple MFLB in PIU and it came with the new batteries.
     
  20. Pcpvapors

    Pcpvapors Well-Known Member

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    So these are "specific" to MF?
     
  21. Trever

    Trever Well-Known Member

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    What about a 2.5 watts backpacking solar panel i have the goal zero line http://www.rei.com/product/827121/goal-zero-guide-10-plus-adventure-kit-solar-charger" would that be ok to use with the pa under good sunlight conditions?
     
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  22. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

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    It will work, but like my garden system you'll also need an 'accumulator' (battery) since you need nearly ten times that much power (say about 20 Watts) to get the box going. We need something like 12 Watts at the screen and when you start working back from that (against efficiencies) you need to have about 20 on tap. No big deal from even a pretty modest battery pack if you don't want to store too many hits.

    So, under good conditions you could expect to vape one minute out of ten. However, in 4 or 5 hours of 'good sun' you could bank enough juice for half an hour or more of heating, half a dozen trenches or more. Plus you'd have some modest power to run a few LEDs to have light to do it by.

    OF
     
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  23. Trever

    Trever Well-Known Member

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    Sounds like i got a little project to do. Im trying to justify extra weight in my pack for extra use. Was thinking of just charging my stock batteries with the solar panel but figured it wouldnt be regulated enough and could possibly damage them? How heavy would good battery pack be OF??
     
  24. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

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    I assume you really meant 'how light could a good pack be?'? As a guess, with a little head scratching maybe four RCR123a would do it? A protection circuit for Li-ions might be easier to do maybe. I'd guess something between a quarter and half a pound? My battery pack weighs six ounces, 8 with case and cable.

    The electric helicopter guys manage the make them fly after all.

    The gel battery I used last summer is several pounds, but is rock simple to set up.

    OF
     
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  25. Trever

    Trever Well-Known Member

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    well ive got like 16 rcr123a with my thermovape stuff. Ill look into making a pack with those for on the go with the mflb.
     
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