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The Grasshopper

Discussion in 'Portable Vaporizers' started by midgetsanchez, Jun 8, 2015.

  1. MoltenTiger

    MoltenTiger Well-Known Member

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    I classically wrote a whole spiel, going off in a tangent.
    Unfortunately it's so great because it's so complex and small, which causes them to be used a lot and is the reason for failure too.
    Reddit is ablaze with hatred over these things, after just recently going through a rarer spell of positive and happy hopperers. I waited 13 months for my preorder, I don't mind waiting a few for them to do what needs to be done.
    If the device wasn't great, I wouldn't have waited 7 months of the 13 for another unit when I already had one.
    The way I see it, there's been heaps HL have wanted/needed to do, so why not just let them do it? It's the only option.
    Haters should realise their comments lessen the chance of them getting what they want, not to deter them as there's validity to it, but the big affect its had on sales impacts all negatively. Prospective buyers have a clear picture as it is. A bit of patience and understanding goes a long way.

    Most of this comment is me being triggered by Reddit and actually had little to do with @Hammahead's post, but..

    I too had red then dead AGAIN after about 7-10 weeks. I don't want it again, so if the changes made offer that then I'll be happy.
    Realistically, maybe not much will change immediately from this point, but ultimately if they have the key production they want being done under their roof, then it's reasonable to expect noticeable improvement to actually arrive.
    People are quick to throw abuse back at HL, but there's a good reason no other company is filling the void. I'm okay with waiting for the one company who's making exactly the vape I want, I assume others might also think the GH is ideal, which is why anyone goes above 10 warranties. I'm at 10 warranties, 5 a piece between 2 hoppers after nearly 2 years to the day (for my OG backer vapefiend unit at least). And it's a lot, sticking with the device says a lot about it, and as annoying as it is missing them, I've had a hoper 85% of the last 2 years. 100% of the time before that, I didn't have one, but NEEDED to. I smoked pounds and pounds before these things existed, never again, yet smoking is better than many vapes for me. HL are out there in the real world doing some great work, what they've achieved so far is pretty epic. You can commend them as much as you can punch holes in their achievements. I'd love to say to some redditors, be happy letting HL get these necessary changes done and be glad not to be the one figuring it out, it's certainly beyond me. And you know what? I STILL don't see anyone making a knock-off or even successfully feature matching the one vape that ticks all the right boxes, apart from that elusive longevity. It'll be a year or two before anyone will have any idea about how robust the new changes are, but it's all positive and it is a huge challenge. It shouldn't be a huge challenge to remain positive, it's only a bad time being sans hopper because no one else can build anything like it. But HLs only 3 weeks behind their intended schedule and everyone is freaking out. "Just stop freaking out" a bad trips a bad trip, relax, get blazed and take it easy!

    Wishing you a speedy hopper recovery @Hammahead and everyone else waiting it out.

    It'd be nice to see other people's energy wishing for good luck for HL, and their customers, instead of whingeing like children.
    Again, I just want to point out that I am referring to a few redditors being negative Nancy's.

    I mean if getting blazed is hard without a hopper, use a different vape and write long forum posts whilst it heats up!
    ^need that instant convection to deal with the bullshit!

    Lol, I think this line would have done the job
    "it's only a bad time being sans hopper because no one else can build anything like it".
    Building things takes time and is basically difficult. Here's to wait club :myday:

    Good luck everyone.
     
  2. Hammahead

    Hammahead Well-Known Member

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    Totally agree. Thus the subjunctive: I don't plan on abandoning the Hopper for good. That is... unless another device gives me what I love about it: immediate action and comparably raw power upon pressing a button.
     
  3. Cheesequake

    Cheesequake Well-Known Member

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    I won't be abandoning my hopper until Hopper Labs is closed and my hopper won't light up anymore. There's no other vape I can throw in my car for a trip and feel semi-safe that I won't be caught even if a cop happens to look over it.
     
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  4. manujoe

    manujoe Well-Known Member

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    That's good to know as otherwise it would be a one temp vape in the absence of opening the backend a thread or 2, adjusting the dial and closing it again! Unfortunately I have been whacking the dial over and back during operation on my previous grasshoppers which probably didn't help
     
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  5. TheWhisper

    TheWhisper Well-Known Member

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    Yep, I don't have any test data to back it up. Just a pinch of superstition and a dash of cutesy "don't change it and ya won't break it".
     
  6. manujoe

    manujoe Well-Known Member

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    Sound advice
     
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  7. Hogni

    Hogni Honi soit qui mal y pense

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    Just got my 4th hopper within a good year. Hope it will stay longer. First use of a hopper after 7 weeks - happy hopping again!
     
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  8. LargeLeaf

    LargeLeaf New Member

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    Did the other 3 break, that is why you have 4? or it is really good?
     
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  9. diddymao

    diddymao aint no party like a diddy party

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    ok round 2 with hopper labs

    i wrote.....

    Hi Caroline,
    I was just wondering if you have any updates on the charger and ss case shipping date? I'm a little annoyed that whilst you were happy to take my hard earned money months in advance and missing your first self imposed deadline of december i have recieved no feedback on when the items are going to be shipped to me.

    You have also had my ti hopper since october and again i have had no feedback on its status.

    I'm not normally one to complain but after paying shipping multiple times for multiple faulty hoppers my patience with your company is close to wearing thin and to top it all off I received an email trying to sell me a leather case, which i think is a bit cheeky when i believe your focus should be on getting my hopper back to me and delivering the case and charger I have already paid for instead of trying to get more money out of me.

    I appreciate that this isn't your fault directly as you are an employee of Hopper Labs but as you are my only point of contact you are unfortunately bearing the brunt of my frustration.

    I look forward to receiving some sort of explanation/update on this as soon as possible.

    I own three hoppers, thirty batteries, three ti performance front ends and have purchased two warranty transfers on hoppers that my brother purchased on my behalf.

    I have also spent at least 200 uk pounds on postage for warranty returns and another 200 on shipping for items i have bought from your site so i have contributed roughly 1900 uk pounds to your company and I really feel I deserve better from hopper labs.

    I look forward to your prompt response and explanation.

    Kind Regards,


    and here is the reply.......

    Hi There,

    I recently spoke with the team about the SS Cases and External Chargers. I was informed there was a bit of a delay in production and we are now estimating those items will begin shipping in January. I will be sure the team sends out an email update as soon as more concrete information is available. Thank you for reaching out and a bigger thank you for your patience.
    I am very sorry for the delays in returning a repaired Hopper to you. We recently stalled all production to implement some new testing protocols and bring a few more processes in-house. Unfortunately, all production is still stalled while the team is implementing these new processes. I won't know more details about when your Hopper will be returned until production begins moving again. Please keep an eye out for an email update coming from the Founders shortly. I have requested they address the delay for all folks waiting on their Hopper. Your patience is appreciated and I assure you we are doing everything we can to get your Hopper back out to you right away.
    I assure you the engineers are hard at work getting things rolling so Hoppers can begin shipping out again. I want to note that the folks sending the advertising emails are not responsible for getting production going so the focus is not being taken away from your service and allocated towards advertising. These are done by completely separate teams and one does not impact the timeframe for another.
    Best,
    Caroline
     
  10. Baron23

    Baron23 Well-Known Member

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    Same old same old.
     
  11. Hogni

    Hogni Honi soit qui mal y pense

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    They broke. the last two within some weeks. I'm pretty sure new issues too will come with this hopper. It's out of the same production batch as the last two.

    BTW VDNM told me customer demand on the hopper dramaticly decreased the last months
     
  12. jivebuggered

    jivebuggered Well-Known Member

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    Hi, the picture above with "AJS said" is the one I have at the moment i vaguely remember it being a member selling them?
     
  13. MoltenTiger

    MoltenTiger Well-Known Member

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    Not sure about that. Check your convo's
     
  14. slcbdco

    slcbdco Brewer, Lobbyist, Vaporist

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    Definitely been pulled over once, my Firefly got nabbed by the cop, but walked, or should I say rummaged, right passed my grasshopper
     
  15. ssrrosey

    ssrrosey Member

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    Hoooly crap I would never be paying that much on postage, 30 batteries too, damn. After all that the standard copy/paste response, how typical.
     
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  16. ssrrosey

    ssrrosey Member

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    One thing people always talk about is using compressed air to blow out devices, I have done this on multiple occasions too. My question is where do you guys get the air? I've been going to bike shops because I'm hesitant to buy can's (all the computer/electronic ones tend to have other additives, figure best to avoid inhaling anything else). Are there more convenient ways
     
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  17. Baron23

    Baron23 Well-Known Member

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    I have a small compressor in my garage. Very handy for a wide number of purposes.

    I blow into the air inlets on the side. Only have done this twice. Didn't seem to make a lot of difference as my GH is still working very well.
     
  18. duff

    duff Well worn

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    Don't know about you but I have no shortage of compressed air on me at all times.

    And it definitely has additives!
    :lol:
     
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  19. GreenHopper

    GreenHopper 20 going on 60

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    I'm guessing that's your "Performance Back End" you are referring to? :rofl:
     
  20. ssrrosey

    ssrrosey Member

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    Hey man! I've been meaning to ask you, back when you had that Texas Tubs x Helix collab did you cover the helix intake? I have one identical and imo am getting to much flow through the helix intake
     
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  21. duff

    duff Well worn

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    This one @ssrrosey?
    It took a bit to get the hang of the increased air but it was a very nice piece.

    I never covered the helix hole.
    His inline grid perc was smooth like butter.
     
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  22. Cheesequake

    Cheesequake Well-Known Member

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    Click to play YouTube Video
     
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  23. ominosity

    ominosity Well-Known Member

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    A little bit of a karma returned today...

    My 2 SS hoppers are defunct and in Hopper limbo until whenever. I picked up a Milaana and have been getting to grips with it and enjoying it over the last few days. Then I remembered my dirty little secret in my bedside cabinet. . Yes another broken hopper that I had meant to but forgotten to return during one of my 12 warranty requests from over a year ago (sorry HL). I thought I’d just give it the old ‘blow as hard as you can through every hole’ trick and VOILA it came back to life and is hitting like a champ.
    Now I am able to do a direct comparison between the Hopper and Milaana. No doubt the Milaana wins on flavour. Hopper flavour is good at lower temps but Milaana is superb for the first few hits. But in every other regard the hopper blows it away. The rips are way bigger and thicker and so much more effortless to achieve. Hopper requires no stirring whatever and gives great and even extraction and in my view is more efficient. And the hopper is the only vape I’ve owned that gives me an inner smile every time I pick it up to use it. A bit like when I first got an iphone. It feels like revolutionary tech in your hands and is genuinely pleasurable to use.
    We all know about the reliability nightmare but personally I really hope that HL can ride the storm and eventually produce the stable hopper we all want.
     
  24. Sonicboom1991

    Sonicboom1991 Well-Known Member

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    At least you got a working one for the moment lol. Kind of disheartening to hear your milaana comparison. I was thinking of picking one up as kind-of a on the go keep parts in the car vape, to try and fill the gap of having a consistently non working hopper. I recently got a Venus Apollo 2 and out of all the battery powered vapes I have tried it's the only one that's scratching my hopper itch and it's doing a excellent job at it. It's a real fantastic performer, I just wish they could fit it into a more portable package and I would be set.
     
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  25. ominosity

    ominosity Well-Known Member

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    Don’t get me wrong the Milaana is a great vape with a unique profile and in my view makes a great backup for the hopper as it is on demand and produces good results. I’m glad to have both but prefer my hopper in most situations.
     

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