Tamasium Concentrate extractor?

Only grease the smaller o-rings, wiping off any excess. The grease helps keep the o-rings from being torn up when you tighten down the threaded caps. Grease is not needed on the larger ring that sits between the column and lower vessel being held together by the big collar, since you don't have to twist that particular connection.

You get a chance to try out your new yet extractor Bob?

AAARG! My first dbl post. Please ignore this blasphemy.

yes, i've done 2 prelim runs. considering the product was leaf i was quite impressed.
i have a buddy who is gonna help me write up a spreadsheet for tracking data as i just threw it in
and ran it. i bled off the propane first. am currently looking at getting a low power air compressor to add a little bit of pressure to speed up the process and allow it to run at sub zero. lots of studying still to do. heavy duty piece of equipment that is for sure. am loooovin the laser thermometer. very helpful. am trying to keep myself from doing a flower run until i have my process dialed in completely. was running low so was glad to get a few grams done quickly. really impressed and feel safe doing this in my home. watching a video of NW Greenthumb doing an extraction at the same time. am not inverting or anything myself, tho. i am pre-freezing the column and extraction tank. i like that the new version has a bleed off valve for the recovery tank so that if i put too much pressure or butane it will bleed off before blowing a seal. honestly think that this is the way to go in terms of safety and recovery. i probably could get a few friends together and make one for a little bit cheaper, but probably not if time and labor was added. next few weeks look to be very fun. thankfully i have a pile of work to do already

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Nice! I'm glad it's working out for you so far. I ran lower quality material for my first few tries as well, to get my process dialed in. Bleed-off valve?! Man, you mean my rig is already outdated? Hehe I might have to look into getting the upgrade. I also pre-freeze everything, and haven't bothered with inversions, as I prefer quality over quantity. If I really wanted, I'd just re-pack the same material and run it again.

yea if you look on their site it's described as a VRV. just dropped the dough on the air compressor and went to the tami site and picked up a schrader valve (apparently it's something i need to add pressure). i also picked up 2 packs of the o-rings in both sizes. out of curiosity, do you only use the rings once or have you tried multiple w/out issue? also have you added pressure urself b4? i mostly want to be able to keep the whole thing really cold and minimize the difference between the butane in the rec.tank and the rest of it. i am thinking have the column at sub-zero at the rec. tank at like 5 deg or refrigerator temp. am worried that w/out a little pressure the contact time will be too long. had to disconnect and drop the rec. tank in a pot of hot water to get my last extraction going w/ decent speed. am curious if you use a carrier solvent. i have a buchner funnel and vacuum flask so i was thinking of winterizing w/ ethanol like Gray Wolf does. TIA for your thoughts and time

I don't add pressure, but do vac the chamber I want the butane to flow into to -15hg. Ya know, pull instead of push. I get both pieces as cold as possible, usually to around -8*f, +-5*. To speed it up even more, I take a wet tea towel and microwave it for a bout 45 seconds, and wrap it around the upper smaller diameter part of the recovery tank where the cap screws on (now lower, since it's upside-down connected to the rest of the Tami). Once the towel has cooled, I just microwave it again, repeating 3-5 times until all the 'tane has flowed south. I hope this helps

I've found the o-rings good for about 10 uses, then start to leak a bit. I change them out every 8 runs, but always inspect them for damage before each load.

I've also tried my hand at winterization, but found the end result not much more potent, a bit less flavorful, and the process much more time consuming. It's always fun to play around though hehe. And you're very welcome, I'm glad to share any info I've gathered.

was worried about pulling the butane thru without it having a chance to recondense. hasn't been an issue for you? needed an air compressor anyway, so no foul either way, now i just get to try two techniques . my buddy is gettin' impatient so i am trying to do a quick run right now. got the partner's parents in town for graduation so i'm trying to get all my gear packed and outta sight b4 they visit the house. halfway done recovering right now.

Hehe best of luck with your speedy job. I don't believe much butane turns to gas, if any at all. After a moment of opening the valves, I can hear the liquid dripping into the lowest part of the vessel.

Anyone process cold wter extracts through to get impurities out?

Yea, I've put lower quality bubblehash mixed with shake through the extractor, with good results.

hey bob, love the name.

my main question, how long does the extract sit in the butane while the unit is recovering it?

20-40 minutes. Why would it make a difference how long the extract is dissolved?

thanks, i concur w/ QTS. it matters how long the butane passes over the material, but not how long the butane sits in the extract in terms of quality. for concerns with time of total process 20-40 min. is accurate. can be up to an hour. 20 min. i would guess is if it's under vacuum. hope that helps

that's the thing, we dont know quantem. no scientists have chimed in to say that your extract sitting in butane for 40 may leave residual traces behind.

i am just trying to play it safe, since there is no long term studies done on bho, and i dont want the freaking butane of all things to kill me

to peeps w/ butane concerns i refer you to the MSDS sheets. compare butane to ethanol. then come talk to me again. butane is food safe. we do know. it's not just stoners who like chemistry. if ya want to play it safe then stay away from solvent based concentrates entirely and stick with dry sieve, bubble, etc. since your name is errl then i am guessing you are a fan of solvent based concentrates then you should know that a proper purge no matter how long the contact time will remove all butane. when using this system the mercaptans (sp?) and and propane can be removed from canned butane (something none of the sstb or other straight tube setups can) or use lab grade n-butane. this tool is FOR safety. as it is originally purposed for making essential oils that are food grade. ISO or QWISO is actually much harder to purge as it has an even higher polarity. just my two cents. hope that helps

Im into quality to;o indeed. This machine is growing on ;me and i can easily set my pop,s airgas account back up again if i decided to invest.

that's badass. they also provide you with the correct procedure and "codes" as it were to start you own AirGas account. i feel like staying a little more off the grid for the time being so i am sticking w/ the vector, plus i already had two cases . for me it is not time, but money, safety, and the green factor (got a little hippie and me, balanced by some screamin' punk and metal ) i love being able to look out at the rain and surfing the net without concern of blowing myself the fuck up.

erl, there is no logical reason that the duration of time the extract is dissolved in solvent would have any effect over how much butane is left over after a purge. It's all very basic chemistry. If you dissolve salt in water, and leave it out to dry, all you have left over is salt. Like Bob said, if you are confident with your purging technique, that should be enough.

maybe not butane, but unless you use n butane, do you really know what is in your vector?

yes, do you?

Yup, 60% n-butane, 29% isubutane, 11% propane

http://www.vectorkgm.com/catalog/butane/Vector_Gas_MSDS.pdf


Edit: I purge the propane, though that isn't really an issue as it sublimes at a much MUCH lower temp than either of the other two, so it'd be gone long before the 'tane is.

do you have something to add or share to this? or are you just spreading fear. i am trying to help educate you as is QTS, but if you are an oil hater, then why the moniker and why come to this thread? i have had plenty of this conversation on other sites if you just want to argue the safety of butane. that isn't what this thread is for, i don't believe. sorry if i seem short or abrupt and i acknowledge i may be misinterpreting your intentions which is why i am asking you to clarify them.
TIA