@darius I'm having a whole lot more fun with my second tour of 7th Floor products than my first go around. I do prefer the vapor of my Evo to the Surfer, but it is only a slight advantage...and that's totally personal. Others disagree with me, but I think we can all agree it is a small difference. But I think the Super surfer represents a great value. Whips, bags all kinds of adapters to attach to glass, the aromatop, hands free adapter, the custom options...it's very versatile and hip! And the Super comes with a lot of things included that would cost you over $30 to add to a regular Surfer, so it keeps competing with the Surfer. It's out of range for those looking for a good deal on a blemished Surfer, but for anyone looking at a normal or custom Surfer, this should be strongly considered. My surfers are on almost all the time with the aromatops making the house smell good...which makes it hard not to use them instead of waiting for another vape to warm up. I have a Super with a bubbler I can put on the end of the whip, which helps get even closer to Evo performance for me. Anyhow, it's a really good vape that is currently flying under the radar because, I think, it wasn't launched as well as it could have been and it started at a crazy price. Right now it is $420, which is good for what you get, but if you send me a private message we can work out something better and get you the accessories you need to do all you want!