Discontinued Omicron Vaporizer for oils

[Smoke1ForMe]

No heat at all? There are two heaters in there, the chances of both being bad are about zero. Both should heat enough to be felt on the outside about a third of the way up after say two cycles (20 seconds or so)?

I'm thinking a contact problem....it's screwed down tight and clean inside?

OF

Ok I think it was a bad cart, just filled another one with .5 and it is getting hot but still can't seem to get any vapor. How long do I have to prime before I should see vapor? I can hear the airflow when I suck on it, is that normal? Also, the taste isn't so great....did I just ruin a gram of wax and 2 carts? That was a quick $60


Is it possible to reclaim the wax from the bad cart?

 

[OF]

Ok I think it was a bad cart, just filled another one with .5 and it is getting hot but still can't seem to get any vapor. How long do I have to prime before I should see vapor? I can hear the airflow when I suck on it, is that normal? Also, the taste isn't so great....did I just ruin a gram of wax and 2 carts? That was a quick $60


Is it possible to reclaim the wax from the bad cart?

With a good load it should produce in a few seconds at most. Don't run it dry more than a few seconds, letting it rest maybe 10 seconds between. The idea is to use the bulk heater to slowly heat the reservoir and concentrate without the wicks getting too hot. You can feel the heat build up on the outside.

It sounds like the load stalled out and you have an air bubble. If you can't get it primed in say 2 minutes of on and off, it's probably best to try to melt it down from there. Same basic idea, hold and rotate the cart bottom, heat the center section until your fingers get warm, then keep heating but move up and down the top half or so of it. Keeping the part under your fingers hot but not unpleasantly so? Do it for half a minute, maybe 45 seconds and try the prime again. If you can leave it screwed into the body (reaching around it to hold on) that's good since the socket will pull heat away from the seals. You may see some smoking from the oil, no problem, back the heat off some but keep it warm.

Once primed, they usually work for a few grams fine. As long as the wicks stay moist. If they dry out and burn, the deposits left can kind of glue it all together, sealing the heater off from the supply of oil.

Yes, you can recover most of the oil easily. Invert it over a plate, jar or something (I use the little vial the oil comes in) and heat it up so the oil runs out. You leave about .2 inside this way, you can get half or more of that back if you strip the cart. Pull the center pin out of the connector and cut the wire. It can be pried out of the rubber easily. Then pull the rubber part around the pin out. Then through the hole push the insides out using a rod or bamboo stick (my favorite). Try to go a bit sideways through the hole. There's a seal right under it with a hole in the center you want to miss. The seal will scrub the walls, pushing the oil out the top and onto the plate. You're on your own to remove bits of cart and scrape the oil up with a razor blade.

OF

 

[Smoke1ForMe]

With a good load it should produce in a few seconds at most. Don't run it dry more than a few seconds, letting it rest maybe 10 seconds between. The idea is to use the bulk heater to slowly heat the reservoir and concentrate without the wicks getting too hot. You can feel the heat build up on the outside.

It sounds like the load stalled out and you have an air bubble. If you can't get it primed in say 2 minutes of on and off, it's probably best to try to melt it down from there. Same basic idea, hold and rotate the cart bottom, heat the center section until your fingers get warm, then keep heating but move up and down the top half or so of it. Keeping the part under your fingers hot but not unpleasantly so? Do it for half a minute, maybe 45 seconds and try the prime again. If you can leave it screwed into the body (reaching around it to hold on) that's good since the socket will pull heat away from the seals. You may see some smoking from the oil, no problem, back the heat off some but keep it warm.

Once primed, they usually work for a few grams fine. As long as the wicks stay moist. If they dry out and burn, the deposits left can kind of glue it all together, sealing the heater off from the supply of oil.

Yes, you can recover most of the oil easily. Invert it over a plate, jar or something (I use the little vial the oil comes in) and heat it up so the oil runs out. You leave about .2 inside this way, you can get half or more of that back if you strip the cart. Pull the center pin out of the connector and cut the wire. It can be pried out of the rubber easily. Then pull the rubber part around the pin out. Then through the hole push the insides out using a rod or bamboo stick (my favorite). Try to go a bit sideways through the hole. There's a seal right under it with a hole in the center you want to miss. The seal will scrub the walls, pushing the oil out the top and onto the plate. You're on your own to remove bits of cart and scrape the oil up with a razor blade.

OF

That did the trick! thanks OF must of been an air bubble.

 

[OF]

That did the trick! thanks OF must of been an air bubble.

You're welcome (and lucky). Great.

Next time you might want to lean on the preheat the center part a bit more?

Anyway, welcome to Omicron. Time to enjoy. Congratulations.

OF

 

[Smoke1ForMe]

You're welcome (and lucky). Great.

Next time you might want to lean on the preheat the center part a bit more?

Anyway, welcome to Omicron. Time to enjoy. Congratulations.

OF

Yea I heated it pretty well in the beginning but think maybe I strayed away to much in the end.

 

[OF]

Yea I heated it pretty well in the beginning but think maybe I strayed away to much in the end.

Easy to do. Timing is everything. Bet we don't catch you with that one again......

Enjoy.

OF

 

[Smoke1ForMe]

Easy to do. Timing is everything. Bet we don't catch you with that one again......

Enjoy.

OF

Does this funky metallic taste last for a long time when using a new cart? I can taste my wax faintly but this other taste is just totally killing the flavor....is this normal?

 

[Vakas]

Does this funky metallic taste last for a long time when using a new cart? I can taste my wax faintly but this other taste is just totally killing the flavor....is this normal?

I thought thats why we have to prime the carts before you fill em , mainly to get rid of any oils/residue... Someone correct me if I am wrong..still a noob

 

[OF]

Does this funky metallic taste last for a long time when using a new cart? I can taste my wax faintly but this other taste is just totally killing the flavor....is this normal?

I'd say typically no, it doesn't take long. A lot depends on the concentrate used, of course, but sooner or later it gets 'seasoned' like a cast iron pan does, the hot metal coated in concentrate 'cooked' in. Some seem to do that quicker than others (like the Sour Diesel wax I use a fair bit of), others seem to take longer. I'm not sure if it's taking longer or the flavor is stronger.

I thought thats why we have to prime the carts before you fill em , mainly to get rid of any oils/residue... Someone correct me if I am wrong..still a noob

No, that's not the original reason. It's not priming (setting up the feed of the concentrate) if there's no concentrate to prime...... The process is 'pre-oxidizinng' in theory, forming oxides on the surface, there should be no "oils/residue". That should have been removed long ago at the factory when the cleaning procedure was changed. After than change, few if any reported any advantage to dry burns and LOTS of problems came from doing it. If you read some you'll find many guys advising to never do this, nobody with experience saying they support it.

I advise against it and have asked the process on the D9 page be reviewed, which I think is wall supported.

(this is the time for others to chime in with conflicting advice???)

OF

 

[THC SCIENTIFIC]

The taste goes away.

 

[Bob Loblaw]

unless you overheat your oil when filling. burnt oil tastes VERY similar to a hot metallic taste, my two cents

 

[Smoke1ForMe]

Thanks for all the advice guys! I will give it a try again tomorrow hopefully its not burnt oil.....Bob would I see it smoking if I burnt it while I was filling the cart?

 

[OF]

unless you overheat your oil when filling. burnt oil tastes VERY similar to a hot metallic taste, my two cents

Once again, experience based advice worth far more than the asking price. Even in all copper 'wheat back' pennies.

Bob is good, Bob is wise.

Thanks for all the advice guys! I will give it a try again tomorrow hopefully its not burnt oil.....Bob would I see it smoking if I burnt it while I was filling the cart?

You're welcome for sure. That's why we give it? Thanks for recognizing it, that is appreciated.

My experience is no, minor vapor coming off is not good (it represents the part that gives most of the flavor) but the burnt taste than lingers and lingers and lingers I think comes from overheating in use in quest of bigger clouds for the most part. The bulk heater runs when the main heater is making vapor to keep oil flowing. Put too much power into it and it can cook the goods in the reservoir in addition to burning at the main heater. I think this is where most of those problems. Take it easy on heat loading and using and it's not an issue?

For sure it's more common with higher power carts and new 'power users'. Given experience it's just part of 'the learning curve'. Another advantage to sticking with 2.4s until you've worked the details out.

OF

 

[jpdnkstr]

unless you overheat your oil when filling. burnt oil tastes VERY similar to a hot metallic taste, my two cents

Agreed! It took me quite awhile to fall back in love with my omi carts, due to leaks and taste, 90% of this was my fault, 10% I attribute to the first production carts(which G replaced 2 of them for me!)

Can't wait for the new Herc heaters, layG cart, Iris V2(I am also one of the lucky 100 that have V1, and should be eligible for a discount on V2, if I recall correctly) and 1701's!(I hope these work with stable at room temp. concentrates!)

That's all.... back to some A13-bx shatter in a 5.0 under my Nibbler! She really rips!

 

[Bob Loblaw]

and even somewhat "burnt" oil tastes okay after nibbler treatment

 

[OF]

and even somewhat "burnt" oil tastes okay after nibbler treatment

Leave it to you, Bob, to test such stuff for us! Thanks for saving me the trouble.......

OF

 

[Smoke1ForMe]

Ok my cart is slowly starting to taste better so I don't think it was burnt oil. Thanks again for all the advice guys really enjoying the portability!

 

[evnt]

Got my omicron light a few weeks ago and have been using my knowledge from this forum to try and get the most out of it before posting my thoughts. First time I filled it I bought some chem dawg wax. I'm pretty new to concentrates and this was recommended and looked like a good consistency for the carts from what I read. First load actually went ok, and I was able to take pulls off it fairly easy and taste was ok. I noticed though that I was not getting very medicated from this, and honestly felt like I was getting inadequate hits even after what I thought was a good load of the cart. I figured the effects and hit issues were due to the strain, and loading technique. I just a few hours ago decided to try out a vial of oil as I heard these tend to be more potent. I was nervous because I'm still kind of unsure what I should get when I got to a dispensary as far as concentrates goes and thought this oil would be too liquidy. From what I gathered just nothing thAt is liquids at room temp and stuff that is crumbly etc wont work? I gotta say this oil is a loooooot better. It hasn't leaked or anything and seems to have gotten me quite medicated and it was very smooth. Although I do have to pull on the device for a second or two before I hear airflow start to go, and then I get a tasty hit. Is that normal? Or does it sound like an air bubble?

I gotta say so much thanks to the members of this forum. Been a lurker for years, and now happily own a vapexhale cloud (was one of first few hundred preorders from reading here) and now paired my omicron light I feel like I have made solid decisions and have gained so much more knowledge on this stuff from this forum alone. I often have been to places claiming to be vape specialists who have never heard of the products I own or this forum and I honestly feel those people are out of touch with the real great products that are out there that get easily masked by imported cheapness with clever marketing

Anyways sorry for the rant just wanted to toss my few cents in. If you have an answer to any of my questions I will thank you ahead of time.

 

[OF]

Ok my cart is slowly starting to taste better so I don't think it was burnt oil. Thanks again for all the advice guys really enjoying the portability!

Thanks for the feedback, great to hear. I wouldn't dismiss the burnt oil idea too quick, you can burn it after it's successfully loaded in priming. At least that's what I think happens.

I've noticed that the exact same concentrate (I stock up when I find one I like.....) might taste different in the initial uses on the next new cart. I think it's from burning the first bits to make it to the heater area. If the heater element is too hot, it burns in the wick in the last mm or so of the long journey and taints everything after until it's washed out?

Anyway, you're very welcome, glad you're on your way!

I'm still kind of unsure what I should get when I got to a dispensary as far as concentrates goes and thought this oil would be too liquidy. From what I gathered just nothing thAt is liquids at room temp and stuff that is crumbly etc wont work? I gotta say this oil is a loooooot better. It hasn't leaked or anything and seems to have gotten me quite medicated and it was very smooth. Although I do have to pull on the device for a second or two before I hear airflow start to go, and then I get a tasty hit. Is that normal? Or does it sound like an air bubble?

Howdy, welcome to the fun. I'm glad that you too are up and running, neat machine isn't it?

Concentrate advice is hard (pad pun). Being a thinner liquid is not a dis-qualifier as you note. Most of my favorites are not solids at room temperature. Heat a lot of the waxes and butters up to melt them and you end up with a puddle of liquid. Pure THC (the ideal) is a thin liquid itself, the thick stuff is other stuff (than THC) anyway. That said, some shatters are scary good.

A friend also showed me a trick: Smear a tiny drop across white paper. Look for an even, reddish film. Often you can see streaks and dark spots that can't be good.

My advice is 'look for light colors' (generally less plant material), stick with 'super melts' or better (avoid 'full melts' and others), watch out for taffies (often foul right away) and you should have better luck. Like I said, I'll hit the savings account to stock up on 'the good stuff' when the local Dispensary has it at a reasonable price.

The minor block and noise is most likely deposits building up in the flue, fairly normal. Within reason they usually make it out the top and drop back down for another pass. Some coat the inside of the MP and work their way down from there. Don't let it get too bad or it's a PITA. You can remove it from the flue with a needle or wire (some guys use a straightened paper clip). Carefully poke it down the flue from the top (don't jab the heater a bit over an inch down), pull it out, wipe it off and put it back until it comes out clean. Technique can limit this, try slacking off the power before you stop the pull (draw cold air through it).

Anyway, glad you're here and making progress at it. Keep at it and share the good and useful stuff you find?

OF

 

[poonman]

Got my omicron light a few weeks ago and have been using my knowledge from this forum to try and get the most out of it before posting my thoughts. First time I filled it I bought some chem dawg wax. I'm pretty new to concentrates and this was recommended and looked like a good consistency for the carts from what I read. First load actually went ok, and I was able to take pulls off it fairly easy and taste was ok. I noticed though that I was not getting very medicated from this, and honestly felt like I was getting inadequate hits even after what I thought was a good load of the cart. I figured the effects and hit issues were due to the strain, and loading technique. I just a few hours ago decided to try out a vial of oil as I heard these tend to be more potent. I was nervous because I'm still kind of unsure what I should get when I got to a dispensary as far as concentrates goes and thought this oil would be too liquidy. From what I gathered just nothing thAt is liquids at room temp and stuff that is crumbly etc wont work? I gotta say this oil is a loooooot better. It hasn't leaked or anything and seems to have gotten me quite medicated and it was very smooth. Although I do have to pull on the device for a second or two before I hear airflow start to go, and then I get a tasty hit. Is that normal? Or does it sound like an air bubble?

I gotta say so much thanks to the members of this forum. Been a lurker for years, and now happily own a vapexhale cloud (was one of first few hundred preorders from reading here) and now paired my omicron light I feel like I have made solid decisions and have gained so much more knowledge on this stuff from this forum alone. I often have been to places claiming to be vape specialists who have never heard of the products I own or this forum and I honestly feel those people are out of touch with the real great products that are out there that get easily masked by imported cheapness with clever marketing

Anyways sorry for the rant just wanted to toss my few cents in. If you have an answer to any of my questions I will thank you ahead of time.

Here's how I resolve the air bubble in the cart .

Put your finger over the hole of the white silicone mouthpiece .
Pull the mouthpiece off , creating a vacuum suction with the hole plugged .
Then push the mouthpiece back on , also with the hole plugged , creating air pressure downwards.
I usually have to do this twice before I hear a ' pop ' in the cart , or even see some vapors
come out at the bottom if you've primed your cart .

Re : Store's products .
They only have knowledge and good things to say about ' their ' inventory .
That is why FC is the best place to research and get educated .

Welcome to FC .

 

[DatOilVape]

Is it ok to charge an O-PHOS with an apple USB adapter (voltage wise)? And i know this is the omicron thread but i wanted to get a ATMOS F5 chartradge for my Omicron has anyone heard about it its like the EGO-W but with a metal funnel on top?

 

[Silvercloud538]

Is it ok to charge an O-PHOS with an apple USB adapter (voltage wise)? And i know this is the omicron thread but i wanted to get a ATMOS F5 chartradge for my Omicron has anyone heard about it its like the EGO-W but with a metal funnel on top?

Yes ,by all means possible [ anywhere USB adapts will work fine ,ie., AC/DC adapter ,cable

box ] ~ personally ,me keeps voltage up by recharging every 50-80 hits or so ~

Enjoy the O-Phos :-) :-)

 

[DatOilVape]

Yes ,by all means possible [ anywhere USB adapts will work fine ,ie., AC/DC adapter ,cable

box ] ~ personally ,me keeps voltage up by recharging every 50-80 hits or so ~

Enjoy the O-Phos :-) :-)

Thanks man i personally love my O-PHOS i even kept it over my 2.5v omicron. So im hearing alot about PG and CE4 carts do i just fill it with the PG like i would with E-Juice. Also thanks THC science for this brilliant device it saved me so much time and has helped me greatly with my boxing cardio now that i do not use the combustion process anymore.

 

[exit]

I thought the OPHOS and Omicron Light were pretty much the same thing... why's one $20 more than the other??

p.s. how long does a OPHOS or Omicron Light operate under heavy use before the battery dies?

 

[DatOilVape]

The Omicron light is the new version of the O-PHOS and has some minor Technological twicks but nothing huge. O-PHOS does have a heat shield and i do love mine more then i did my OMICRON 2.5V and in fact i beilive its on sale now for 69.99 so i would grab it while you can