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Loto Labs Lux (formerly Evoke)

Discussion in 'Upcoming and Unreleased Portable Vaporizers' started by SameOldTim, Sep 5, 2013.

  1. t-dub

    t-dub Vapor Sloth

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    Just an update . . . I continue to use my Lux for concentrates, and more importantly pure anhydrous CBD isolate crystals, since the vapor is smooth and tasty, and the capsules lend themselves well to vaping the CBD crystals. Some of you may have noticed that the videos I posted are gone. The reason for that is that because my face was in them, they were meant for just the few that could see them quickly. Also, as my health declines, I am reducing my footprint here on FC and everywhere else on the internet.

    My Lux continues to perform. It may not be as efficient as some other modalities, however, the sludge left in the capsule after a session is something I would rather throw away anyways. I still have not received an herb capsule to test so I'll be contacting Neeraj to re-request.

    Anyways, nice to see folks here pioneering this unusual vape. Yes its not economically viable at their price point, and I don't think they mean it to be for many reasons. I knew when they announced that they were going with UpToke that the $$$ would disappear and it did. I also knew it would lead to massive cost overruns, and it did. The reason I knew this is because this has been UpToke's pattern for a long time IMHO. I would not write off Neeraj and the Loto Labs team in the future just yet, it may be brighter and more interesting than you imagine.
     
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  2. PPN

    PPN Fleurs&Vapeur

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    Happy to see you back @t-dub , which settings do you use (draw power and idle power), please?
     
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  3. t-dub

    t-dub Vapor Sloth

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    Don't know, just using what the device came with. If it can be adjusted via App that would be nice but no one told me about it. Still no flower capsule to speak of.
     
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  4. DucSloerie

    DucSloerie New Member

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    I received the device, but have no access to concentrates. Any advice on how to get it to work with herbs? So far I’m not happy with the results.
     
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  5. Egzoset

    Egzoset Vaporist of Borg

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    Salutations T-Dub,

    Yeah, i've done that myself since i'd say 2015. The absence was most beneficial, hence my passing by to share all the fun. My hope is that you enjoyed this even at a distance, monitoring the thread at times, possibly as i once did.

    :)


    Glad you agree, that's my thought absolutely. I teased about it, in attempts to offer moral support...

    M'well, there's that sort of problems when i'm sure the average reader would rather get to basics with feedback from those working with Neeraj Bhardwaj, CEO at Loto Labs.

    There are those who do own a Lux, after all! At least i know i feel curious, imagine them... :sherlock:

    No problem, there's an official video document right here, directly uploaded by Roy the Crow (Belmont/CA):

    Click to play YouTube Video

    YouTube - Loto Labs: Aim Higher (2018-Mar-6)​

    It's been called "Vaping the Loto Lux" and i'd want to read comparative comments from actual Lux owners.

    :D

    I'm all in favour of "brighter and more interesting" stuff but, please, tell the "team" to hurry up before we've all passed away! If i may say so...

    :myday:

    Good day, have fun!! :peace:
     
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  6. GR

    GR Well-Known Member

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    I'm sorry brother. After my long absence from FC this was the first post I read, it saddens me greatly.



    I had time to go back and read your posts about your Lux this morning, always great to see your thoughts.

    My Lux arrived 2 days ago. First impression on unboxing was what a masterful phallic symbol and with every part I investigate I am not disappointed with the phallic theme continuing for every part. My girlfriend thought I got her a new toy. I just love phallic anything so if nothing else it can be a statue.

    It was a long wait for this vape and I had very high hopes. 95% of my usage is concentrates for the last 6 years, and a lot of it. I have been disappointed in every concentrate portable I have used and it has been a lot of them. Other then S&Bs Mighty/Crafty with oil cartridges none can do a ten hour non stop drive without dangerous loading situations.

    After reading some directions and watching a few vids I was ready to give it a go.

    It was a love hate relationship from the get go.

    Loading the cartridge was tricky and sticky for my first few attempts. I learned tweezers help a lot, I like the ceramic tipped ones, they should be included. Still working on a cleaner load routine.

    First vape was OK, the flavor was nice, the vapor production was thin. Found the app and adjusted the temps. It has two adjustments, standby and vaping. I adjusted the standby to 50% and the high setting to 100%, stock was in the 80s I believe. Next session was much better vape production and flavor was still there. 50% standby is high enough to still produce a this vapor so it only take a couple of seconds with the fire button to get good production.

    My mouth piece fit is not great, one side does not seat fully in place. It is held in place magnetically, comes off easy with a small amount of pressure. This lead to my first disaster. I bumped the tip on my leg as I was walking, mouthpiece came off, glass tube slid out and shattered upon impact on the wood floor with hot oil sludge splattering everywhere. 30 min clean up, and find out they are not selling any replacement parts yet, I break shit easily, not good for me.

    After more vape play I discovered the puddle of oil that is not making vape anymore, and it should. If one rod is good more must be better, seems to work. I reduced the puddle to half the amount with surprisingly good flavor. Still playing with this and I usually do a clean cartridge with just one rod and add the second rod for the second load.

    I am now getting much more consistent vape production from session to session. I am very impressed with the flavor I can get, it is more consistent then my temp controlled dabbing. What I am most amazed about is preservation of flavor with doing multiple sessions with one load, I have never encountered a vape that could do this. Of course the terps still disappear before the entire load is consumed although powering through the tasteless oil gets me that super high of fully decarbed oil.

    I think there is a future for this vape. I hope improvements will come for the cartridge design and it needs a stand badly, it can't be played down with hot oil inside. It seems the body design at some point was there for it to stand on its own The tip needs a better fit, maybe it's just mine, and needs to be more secure with glass cartridges inside. The rivet needs slits or holes in the rivet base to be able to actually wick as designed, my experience is it creates a seal instead, I've pulled out the rod to find it dry at the bottom with some fresh concentrate near the top. The battery it comes with is a joke, it will only give me 3 sessions at most before a noticeable decline happens, my other batteries will do 10 or more. I don't know about the charger and have high end ones I would prefer to use anyway.

    It doubles as a flash light also. I use the purple light to make my way to the bathroom. Not stealth at all.
     
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  7. PPN

    PPN Fleurs&Vapeur

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    Didn't tried others batteries... which brand's models did you test?

    I enjoy a lot your feedback @GR ! You hit the nail with the lack of provided tools to load and handle the capsule, and your reports of good taste&medication is similar to my impressions but, even at 100%, I still get pretty light clouds in comparison with most concentrate devices but similar to a very low temp dabbing (480 for me). I'm low again with concentrates, buzy at hell, but will play more with the device!

    It looks like I need to make some more rosin soon.

    You'll miss to the community @t-dub , take care of you.
     
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  8. GR

    GR Well-Known Member

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    PPN I'm no battery guru and there are many that are at FC. OF a few years ago recommended Panasonic CGR18650CH for great performance in the Cera. These where the best batteries I have ever purchased, they are still running strong, although they are showing their age now. I get a lot of ecig stuff from here and add on batteries when I need them http://www.myvaporstore.com/18650-Rechargeable-Lithium-Batteries-s/190.htm . I just got 4 30 amp Efest and like them a lot, don't know their longevity yet. I have both of the Samsung they list, I liked them just not enough to order again. I will go back to Panosonic next, I see newer versions of what I mentioned above online when I search. Fasttech.com has amazing prices, need to make sure your getting the real product and not a knock of though.
     
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  9. PPN

    PPN Fleurs&Vapeur

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    Finally got time to press some more rosin and a friend gave me a small slab of mix trim bho, so I have enough concentrates to continue testing and I can say the Lux fits a niche for smooth&tasty hits on the morning. It medicates me very well, especially with the unit I set at 100% heating level, my other unit is still on stock setting but works prettty well too , I like to start using this one and switch the capsule in the 100% heating level unit after a few hits.... although it might be easier to get, at least 3 presets with a switch like the ESV get.
     
  10. Baron23

    Baron23 Well-Known Member

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    I did not know this. I don't know what is up with your health and its none of my business, but I am truly grieved to hear this and wish you nothing but the best.

    You are definitely one of FC's good guys!!
     
  11. PPN

    PPN Fleurs&Vapeur

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    Hi, I just noticed something with the Lux, when you power it on, it begins to be in standby mode (pink light) and you can press it 3 times to get the heater ready or pre heated and I rezalized the unit was still producing vapor even with the depressed button (off) with the unit I set the idl power to 48 (it was around 20 before I think). A shame I don't own a smartphone to be able to play more with this settings ... I would like to try some things like a 100% idl power and a 0-10% draw power and the opposite settings too but I start to think the stock settings are good enough (for my unit it was a 68% draw power and a 28% idl power if I remenber well and if I assume all units are shipped with the same settings but maybe I'm wrong).

    So for now these is the settings I use for my 2 units, one is the following supposed stock settings (68%DP and 28% IP) and the other one was tweaked by myself using a friend's smartphone to upload the App (100%DP and 48% IP).

    Could you share the settings you use and the results you get cause if I like the smooth clouds in the Og settings unit I dislike efficiency and if I like the medication with the tweaked unit ,I dislike the harsh hits (I'm coughing very hard!) ?
     
  12. PPN

    PPN Fleurs&Vapeur

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    I'm surprised how long last the battery now! It seems, like somebody else noticed, the battery need to be conditionned through some charging cycles. At first they was pretty weak and units was blinking red after 15-20 hits at stock setting, now I'm using one for 50 puffs at least and still not get the red blinking (on my tweaked unit!).
     
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  13. Ferrusbuelker

    Ferrusbuelker Member

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    So I’ve followed this thread pretty much till the end my take is the device is pretty much a fail or maybe ok for some concentrates? I need your guys opinion I have an offer to buy one new for $175. I only dab at this point mainly thca, some rosin and shatter. Usually using Liger 30mm, terp slurper, or nastee 36mm. I’ve tried a lot of devices for concentrates including making glass fritted discs and putting them in MV1, enano and firefly 2 in quest to not use those horrible pads. I’ve pretty results with xvape vista and didn’t really care for the peak. I don’t want to even the pens or Sai. I mainly dab at home but I want a device exclusive made for dabs. Is this device going to deliver what I need? I love the idea of glass capsules but does the material come in contact with the hot metal? Would you buy it for $175? The other option might be the Switch. Any input is greatly appreciated. Thanks
     
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  14. PPN

    PPN Fleurs&Vapeur

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    The Lux is not a total fail imo but there is a lot of issues, so much I wouldn't recommand it even if I appreciate it in some occasions.
    Taste is pretty good using 50- 60% draw power, very smooth but clouds sucks and if you use max power you'll getr a very good relief, clouds (similar to a 520-550 dab on quartz, visible but not huge) but taste will suffer and smoothness also.

    Can't speak about the switch (except the same things you can read yourself in the thread) but it seems like Something special.... interesting but form factor, size, pricepoint and glassware keep me away from the Switch. Would like to try one but don't want to buy one.

    Maybe i'll sell one of my 2 Lux soon too but I'm hesitating... maybe I missed something which would make this vape great!

    To add some infos to this thread I want to say included batteries are garbage, I used a Samsung 25R and got, at least, 4 times the amount of hits I got with the provided ones!
     
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  15. Ferrusbuelker

    Ferrusbuelker Member

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    Thanks that is really helpful. I’ve always appreciated your comments on the board when I first had the Vista you were one the few that had commented. That’s my fear that somehow the vape will be great but we just missed something. Think I’m going with Switch.
     
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  16. PPN

    PPN Fleurs&Vapeur

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    It's a pleasure to know my posts are not useless! You enlight my day (which is terribly dark and wet), thanks.

    Can I ask you where you find a brand new Lux for sale? from a retailer? or maybe a unusued second hand unit…?
     
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  17. Ferrusbuelker

    Ferrusbuelker Member

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    Entechange on reddit. Someone just received theirs and doesn’t want it. Yeah your posts are generally informative and I pay attention when you post. I still want this vape but I know I’ll regret it. Back to trying to find the Jumbo slurper...
     
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  18. Egzoset

    Egzoset Vaporist of Borg

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    Salutations,

    Back to 2014 or so the Evoke now rebranded as the Lux consistently sounded like a fake thread meant to demonstrate how to destroy the reputation of IH technology, instead of implementing it, and now i get the very same "déjà-vu" feeling while going through some new Switch thread: much for the same reasons, once again...

    Besides thin-air and social noise little prompts or even invites to consider spending additional time & money while yet another advertiser still fails finding the proper basic language. Honestly i don't know where the enthousiasm is from; long ago aboriginals got tricked by europeans showing them cheap mirrors but it doesn't work anymore, so why choose to base trust mainly on faith if not simply because there ain't anything else to find?

    Please lets have IH technology which cleverly integrates the Curie effect for starters, etc., otherwise it shall remain the mirage it always was IMO.

    Good day, have fun. :peace:
     
  19. Vapor Loop

    Vapor Loop Well-Known Member

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    I might not even open mine when i get it this week, And try to trade it for a Peak or Switch. I got it mainly for a dry herb vape four years ago, But it does not seem to vape herb well, And i would much rather have a Peak or Switch rig in the $400 oil vape market.
     
  20. duff

    duff Well worn

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    Just out of curiosity @Vapor Loop, they are just getting to your pre-order from 2015?
     
  21. Vapor Loop

    Vapor Loop Well-Known Member

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    No july 2014. I did however get the email just after 420. I just was not checking E-mail due to a severe injury i had before 420. The order number was in the 500's. I think they are in the 700's now.
     
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