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Discussion in 'Plug-in Vaporizers' started by marcuss, Jun 29, 2008.

  1. Alan Partridge

    Alan Partridge Smell my cheese

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    I was thinking along these lines! Any screen recommendations? I think I might have a spare MV one somewhere that is very fine mesh.

    8 was pushing it! No heatsoak (well, maybe a few seconds) and straight into it. HUGE dense cloud, popcorn flavour mixed with terps, very dark brown AVB. It was very close but no combustion! Thanks for the usage info. I'm still finding that sweet spot, but I haven't had a bad session yet in my searching. Your o-ring heat shield is interesting, will have to look into that.

    This vape is on another level for me! Vapour density, volume, flavour and effect are the best I've experienced, and I own some big hitting vapes.

    Has anyone done a comparison with this v Subliminator v Flower Pot v anything else on this level?
     
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  2. lazylathe

    lazylathe Almost there...

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    Any fine screen you have that fits!
    I am not sure of the diameter of your bowl so cannot recommend anything.

    I just scrounged around until i found a suitable one that i did not need for anything else.
     
  3. PPN

    PPN Fleurs&Vapeur

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    Maybe our units are tuned differently but at 8 (even 7) I get a blackened abv and a sligthly burning taste...not my cup of tea, I use mainly setting 5, sometime a bit more (5 and a quarter) for clouds and sometimes a bit less for flavor. I still get very big clouds.

    If you want to keep your WT clean use a top hat basket screen which fit the GonG (arizer ones for 18mm and elb top hats for 14mm) this was working for my Vrip but I don't use it with my Ti.

    Like for dabbing, the higher the temperature, the more reclaim you'll get in your glass. IDK why but it looks like low temp avoid condensation....
     
  4. biohacker

    biohacker Fucking Combustion Since 2006

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    That's weird, usually it's the opposite effect?
     
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  5. PPN

    PPN Fleurs&Vapeur

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    Not in my experience, I noticed that when I switched from a torch to an enail. I can't remenber where but there is a discussion somewhere on this topic.

    I'm personnaly convinced less heat equal less reclaim.
     
  6. biohacker

    biohacker Fucking Combustion Since 2006

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    Not enough heat is a good way to get a massive glob of your extract down the tube for reclaim. All lower temps do is basically melt your concentrate. I've recently tested this with an e-nail, but IMHO it's also common sense. Anyways, not going to debate about it but if you find that thread please let us know.
     
  7. The Beagle

    The Beagle Butanist Bubblemaker

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    Thanks.
     
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  8. MrMonss

    MrMonss Well-Known Member

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    Does anyone use this nail glassware with flowers ?
    In the Idea of being really in total convection, the bowl being actually less hot..
    This could also allow more heating and play with air flow ?
    The heat source may be a little far, i'll try this for thé fun of science..
     
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  9. Doktor Dub

    Doktor Dub Well-Known Member

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    In the Name of Science, you should document all your Experiments and let the world know... :D
     
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  10. MrMonss

    MrMonss Well-Known Member

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    I was too tired yesterday, and i wanted to watch soccer (yeah I know it Can sound girly/gay in the US).. So science will wait a bit tonight.. ;)
     
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  11. MrMonss

    MrMonss Well-Known Member

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    Sorry for the double post, seems that i cannot edit..
    It works quite well, it may be a little less conduction, but the bowl ended up even by heating, but just a little, nothing similar with the herb mode.
    This also allows to be able to modulate the air flow provided to have a carb or tools (a little spoon would work) to plug the remaining hole, wich is not possible with the real flower glassware
    I was on 8.5 and feels like it was about 4.
     
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  12. Alan Partridge

    Alan Partridge Smell my cheese

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    Aha! Back in now thanks @vtac :tup:

    So the dirty glass I mentioned was from the particles of the herb - green dust! Now this was a big problem for me! After my first couple of days, I was getting bad allergy symptoms. Using the Herborizer tube didn't help, there's no diffuser or anything. Fine particles were getting into my airways. It was better with the FC mod and FC 1000, but the native glass was killing me.

    Finest screen I could find was from the MV. It was a bit small in diameter but did help, but with the advice from @PPN I used a top hat I had from my LSV knock off. Now it's great! Absolutely saved it for me, for a while I thought I wasn't going to be able to use it any more. And I am so glad because the tube is fecking marvellous.

    I've used it with the two bongs I've mentioned, but NOTHING does it justice like the tube. I can really push the temps high on it, probably due to the big airflow. The glass is about 40cm tall at a guess. The AVB is always lighter using it. 7 on the FC pipes was a slightly popcorning, charring experience, but in the tube it feels just right! And 8 is an amazing experience, just dip the heater in and take it straight out after taking a big hit.... heaven :) But a lot comes down to how long you leave the heater in the bowl.

    I also fashioned a stand from a hydrafoot and a 18mm F/F joint I had lying around which works quite well. When I get in I turn it on and leave it till bedtime.

    After a week with the Herborizer, I'll say this is a definite class above anything I've tried. The tube is just perfect for it. It densely whitewalls the entire tube effortlessly, and the vapour is cool, comfortable and bursting with flavour. In all areas, it's phenomenal. Only one thing I don't like -it needs a stir or two, and this is a bit fiddly when hot. Other than that I think my VAS may be cured. Well after I get the VapCap. Then it will be cured. Definitely. Yep. Definitely.
     
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  13. biohacker

    biohacker Fucking Combustion Since 2006

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    Nice review Father! ;) That says ALOT, especially considering what you have collecting dust! I wish there was a 4/20 sale on this one!

    How do you find the quality of the tube? Would you say it's 5mm? It's been a decade since I had my Herborizer Classic w/sphere so I can't remember the quality, but have read reports that it's very thin glass and cheapish. I have my eye on the bubbler!

    Stirring concerns me (hate it)....but this is a connoisseur level device, so might not mind for the flavour and vapour output quality. Does it vape uneven? Is it kinda like the LSV or enano in that it will brown and vape slightly uneven so requires the stir?

    How hot and uncomfortable is it do accomplish this? My biggest fear about the herbo ti is breakage! So just want to make an informed decision. I honestly have no other VAS at the moment, just bought the Solo 2 which will be my staple for portability, and I love nothing more than my Supreme 3, however would like a desktop plugin, and I don't have my eyes on anything else anymore but this.

    So wish Sebastien would hook us up with an FC discount or some kind of incentive.
     
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  14. MrMonss

    MrMonss Well-Known Member

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    You could find some, for exemple there's 15% off on everything at LaCentraleVapeur.com with the code HAPPY420, untill the 22th
     
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  15. bleak

    bleak Well-Known Member

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    When I first tested the Ti, I had the heater in the wrong position by accident. The designer (Sebastien) tells me the heater position can cause un-even cooking of the load. You know those little hex screws on the heater? One of them had come loose after a few heat cycles, and I just re-tightened it without thinking too much. Sebastien from Herborizer pointed out my mistake, that the heater needs to extrude from the glass housing by 5mm. I suggested a quickstart guide, and ended up designing it for them. The guide is being included in the current production run. This is a preview, showing the 5mm thing:

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    Sebastien explained that when the heater is in the correct position (5mm extrusion), the 4 channels on the heater create an air vortex in the bowl. This produces even heat, and eliminates the hot spot in the center like the XL had. Apparently one of the Subliminator models uses the same principle, with channels creating an air vortex.

    Check your heater is in the correct position, hopefully you can avoid the need to stir (I also don't like stirring!)

    When I had the heater in the wrong position (only around 2mm extrusion), there was definitely a hot-spot in the center of the bowl. I actually shot the official video like this, because I didn't know better at the time.
     
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  16. biohacker

    biohacker Fucking Combustion Since 2006

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    THANK YOU!!! This kinda changes the game....their price is 10 euro less than herborizer.com and with the 15% off code makes it somewhat affordable! Just need to figure out details for shipping to Canada. I'm on it today! Thank god for google translator, I didn't see an "english" tab, please correct me if I didn't see it.

    Wow nice work bro! So now at 5mm you never need to stir? This would definitely change the game for me. I really didn't know about the XL hot spot to be honest.

    And how effective is the Herbo Ti for micro dosing? What is the minimum sized load that can be vaped properly? Since the heat goes to the moon, I assume anything, even .05g would be fine to vape in one hit?
     
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  17. MrMonss

    MrMonss Well-Known Member

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    I don't stir, never stir (if Google translate is right)..
    Biohacker for the Price 10€ less than herbo you may also got the full kit (if it wasnt an error at first)..
    Good deal if there's the nail glass too..
     
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  18. Carlos8400

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    Honestly, the stiring is super easy... It's not awkward at all, nothing like trying to stir a Sublimator or something like that. Just lift the injector i one hand, stir with the other, nothing hot or burning. (if you have insulated the handle one way or another)
    I think it's definitely worth stiring once at least, takes a second and it gives you a couple extra good hits. To me the strongest hits are the last ones after the stir. Not the best flavour, but the strongest hits for sure.

    You can get your herbs completely brown without a stir, but you will reach a point where vapour production stops. You can still stir and get more hits that wouldn't be extracted without stirring.
     
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  19. biohacker

    biohacker Fucking Combustion Since 2006

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    So i'm assuming that the 15% off deal from that website is the best deal out there on the interwebs?
     
  20. MrMonss

    MrMonss Well-Known Member

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    I'm not trying to compare offers.. Just saw this one on Instagram yesterday..
    Being in France, most 420 offers are not interesting, and allready too bought recently between the herbo, full of VapCaps and now the Xmax Starry..
     
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  21. Alexis

    Alexis Open minded philosopher and realist.

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    Guys- you have turned my head over! I find myself doing a mock checkout on Lacentralevapeur, to see if I could actually work the site, and if the shipping really is free to UK.
    It did run rings around me for a while!
    But I am at the paypal button click now, and they are showing me the value in gbp, for the Ti bubbler set up, OG price $399. I applied the disccunt coupon, and it took the price down to 339 €

    But this was unclear. The price listed on the page is 332,50 €.
    But afterbI added it to my basket, it was showing at the top saying it is 399€.

    I applied the discount code and it says 339 €.
    So I think, okay, that is the discount applied.
    Went through to paypal just to see what the total GBP is, no real intention of paying over £300 right now.

    And on paypal,,it says £250!!!:razz::drool::drool:

    I thought, am I tripping? I clicked on the arrow for details, and it says :
    • Vaporisateur Bubbler Ti Herborizer - Vaporisateur de salon
      €332.50 EUR
    • HAPPY420 More
      -€49.88 EUR
    • Item total €282.62 EUR
    • P&P €8.00 EUR
    Subtotal €290.62 EUR

    So that is £250 total for the Ti bubbler! Can you believe that! It must be the mandala effect @biohacker ;):lol:.

    Is this for real? If I get the same kit from Herborizer, at €399, plus shipping, that would be £ 349 delivered.
    And with free shipping, still £333.

    How I am not supposed to order this right now? If I am ever going to get the Herborizer Ti, if I do it right now, I am a total plum!!

    Please talk sanity to me! What do you think?
    If I could guarantee a source of herb, and Inhadnt just shelled out Vapcaps, I wouldnt think twice.
    Im feeling very impulsive, and I did put £320 from sales into my savings account, for a next heavy hitter! But I a, supposed to not be rushing. I have cleaned my Aromed to list first, but I think I have to buy tgis now!
    All thoughts welcome!

    Edit- @MrMonss how do I select 18 mm? Do I have to type it in order notes on adress page? Thanks French amigo!:tup:
     
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  22. biohacker

    biohacker Fucking Combustion Since 2006

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    I'm on the site right now bro, just trying to navigate and check out. If it's a greater deal than I anticipated, i'll get the bubbler with the Ti as well! Is it free shipping worldwide? And they don't have the concentrate attachment yeah?

    sebastien still has no stock
     
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  23. Is it tho?

    Is it tho? Well-Known Member

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    Do it! You won't regret it. It's hands down the best vape I own, relegated a mighty, evo, supreme, enano, solo, lotus, daisy. Iam considering getting another just so I can have one upstairs as well
     
  24. Alexis

    Alexis Open minded philosopher and realist.

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    I really hope so for you! This is just too good a deal to be true surely? I think I need a cold shower before I do anything.
     
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  25. biohacker

    biohacker Fucking Combustion Since 2006

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    :o Blasphemy!!!! ;)

    So it says plant and concentrate spray with my translator... so this includes the concentrate attachment I assume? If it's free shipping i'm buying forsure, especially after @Is it tho? post! I mean common!

    Probably get nailed with customs/taxes but worth it. I've never made a purchase from Europe before! This is weird!

    Fuck, I enter Canada, but it only allows me to input a U.S. State! :bang: Then it says that the postal code field is incorrect. There is no postal code field! :bang:

    Guess it was too good to be true.
     
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