Discussion in 'Plug-in Vaporizers' started by marcuss, Jun 29, 2008.
Bidness is good!!!!
Thanks for reporting!!
Sorry , I forgot to add the link, I was not referring to the Hervorizer site, both they and Vaposhop are out of stock.
@MrMonss , well done thank you for spotting that and you got the right place.
The Ti bubbler is the same price as Herborizer, but the other day I swear the Ti system was only €252. Compared to €289 direct from Sebastien.
Now it is €279 I think, but that may also include the enail, but cant be certain, my old school day French is RUSTY.
But they do appear to offer free shipping.
However, if I eventually get the Ti, I intend to contact Sebastien and ask for a spare mouthpiece. Im an OCD hygiene freak, and I will be dragging passers by from the street to have a try!
The Ti will be again avalaible in 2 weeks.
That are two relatively safe Weeks for my wallet
I bought mine via this site some time ago, but you are not safe from a possible disappointment, if they are missing parts or kits (18 or 14mm) and if all the customers direct it to this seller.
It is here that I bought mine, because I do not live very far, and that where I live the Post no longer delivers..
For the price you mentioned I did not go to verify them (it seems strange the prices with "2" at the end) however I confirm that the kit contains the enail also, when I bought it was displayed at 279 € ( Except memory error) with the Vape / Enail set.
I've also thought of a mistake at first.
Yes thankyou, I got that wrong and I already corrected my post to say it is €279.
My head is a fuzzy blur!
But I am almosy certain that when I first found the site 2 days ago, the price for the Ti system was €252.
Maybe that was without the enail, and possibly still available?
And the Ti bubbler, at €399, if that also contains the enail as well, and DOES ship free right across Europe, then that is a lot cheaper than direct from Sebastien, which has always been about €17 shipping to UK.
On the website the enail kit is not mentionned for the 279€ Ti system, I payed 319€ for mine direct from the manufacturer(whole system, flowers injector and enail).
After 2 weeks using the FC-710 i posted on page 38 i was so impressed i decided to order 2 more. I had to have spares... It really is amazing with the Ti, perfect function, perfect handling, doesn't really get dirty at all (barely dirty after 2 weeks), and super easy to clean. After going through more than 20 different pieces in the past years, i have finally found my daily driver.
Also, i couldn't help but get this little Ball rig too:
Great function, well built, no splash back, i like it.
Just like the Klein i posted before i would not use it everyday, but it is very nice as a change.
18.8mm Fc-710 for everyday use, 14.5mm Klein, Fab egg, or Ball when i feel like something different.
I really love the fact that this Vape allows you to use so many different pieces of glass without needing adapters or whips, it really is an amazing experience!
Also got a stand, so i have somewhere to put the injector when using 14.5mm pieces.
But for clearance THAT is not the FC-710
I know, the Fc-710 is the one i originally posted on page 38!
In France (a bit like in Germany certainly) the supply of concentrates not being as widespread as on the other side of the Atlantic I took the TI especially for flowers & resin.
At the time of the purchase I was surprised not to be able to select the enail option.
The enail glass is available as a single piece on herborizer.com so it wasn't a bad issue.
Finally I had the good surprise to have also the enail, which I tested with craft concentrates/home made ones.
The bad surprises were a wait a little longer than expected, but also that the glass surrounding the injector was felled. Not a problem since I broke it completely very quickly.
That's a very nice setup Carlos. My FC-Mod is very simple to clean but sometimes I take the D020D which I appreciate more the draw. I will think about a new glass purchase soon.
I already miss my glass stand..
I'm using the D020D as a stand but he's getting dirty just using it this way, maybe due to the heat..
How does it work as an enail?
I'm more interested in the function with concentrates than with flower at the moment.
How is it flavor wise? Does the inner ball collect a lot of condensed vapor?
Hard to say because i dont have access to concentrates and the Herborizer Ti is the first "e-nail" i try.
I switch the regulator on 5.5
I love to see how the bubbler get milked instantly. When the drop touch the nail ... psssssshhht ... it's beautiful
Before that i had to used my brother's magic flight box, with the concentrate trays for tasting my mighty reclaim.
A totaly different experience.
Flavor is good, not as "in your face" as with the FC-710, but much better than with the Klein, on par with the Fab Egg.
It is super smooth, i can literally kill a full bowl in one hit with it without feeling a thing.
Handling is a bit crap, the nail ends up being a couple inches away from your face, and it wouldn't take much to have a burnt nose. This problem is probably made worst by the fact this is the 8" version.
It gets dirty SUPER fast, I hit it maybe 4 times yesterday and it is full of crap already, mostly on the inner ball, but really all over. It is dirtier in a day than the FC-710 in two weeks! This is literally a "clean it everyday" kinda rig, unless you don't care about dirty rigs.
To me these small rigs with a lot of exposed glass are great for people who don't use them often, but too much hassle if you us them daily.
If you want something that can be used all day everyday and not collect a lot of crap the FC-710 is king!
Every tools need to be cleaned often. And i particulary love taking care of my glass.
I agree, they are cool to look at but not very practical.
@latulipe999 thanks, I think I'll stick with my XL model for now but the enail configuration looks really interesting.
like a classic Ti nail but you can't use large dab except using the worm technic but it might be slightly wastefull. Actually, after tested it I can say i will not use it anymore, it is pretty nice but I prefer to dab with my quartz nail although.... now if I have to rebuy the whole kit I will not buy the enail config.
I don't like to dab, but enjoy concentrates with flowers at vaping temps. would the herbo ti work well with a small bed of flower and a small dab of extract on top, or would it be too wasteful?
I don't have any experience with concentrates, how would it be wasteful?
I tried what you mentioned a couple times with fresh hash and it worked alright although results were better when crumbling it and mixing it in the bowl.
Left on top it takes a while to melt and the herbs are brown by the time the hash is bubbling.
Well, considering it's a convection vape, I assumed I would lose much of the dab to reclaim, but now realize that the Herbo can get to any temp you want, so I guess with the exception of the flavour of the flowers, it should be quite doable. Was just curious because I have heard on numerous occasions that the Herbo Ti concentrate attachment isn't that great, and that even a simple cheap china enail is better.
Had a funny one yesterday!
I tried to have a quick one before having to rush out the door, set the Ti on 10 thinking "it will heat up faster". I do a few things, lose track of time, and realize when i get back to it that i have left it on 10 for 5 minutes or so.
I think to myself, i'll just put it on 5, blow on it a few times to cool it and give it a go, it should be fine, how hot can it be?
Too hot was the answer... The bowl spontaneously combusted on the first little hit and almost killed me!
After not combusting for 3 months i was coughing like a mentalist and can still feel my throat this morning!
Hello combustion fuckers!
It has been a long time. You may remember me as Alan Partridge. Being the useless stoner I am, I could not remember my password. Was easier to create a new account!
While I haven't been active here, I have been buying new vapes. My quest for the ultimate simulation of smoking without actually smoking has led me to this Herborizer corner. While I have coveted a Subliminator for a long time, it's very expensive and doesn't look too easy to use. But this looked like something that could possibly come close.
Desperate to get one before the Easter weekend, I found one on Vaposhop. I only wanted the Herborizer itself, but the only thing available was the Tube package. Fuck it, I went ahead and purchased.
Package turned up day after they posted it! Quality is excellent. The unit itself is excellently crafted. Tube and glass bits are flawless. No instructions though, either with the unit or online (that I could find) which is a shame.
I gave it a 20 min burn off at max temp before first use. A fair bit of vapour came out of it when doing this. I put the dial down to 7, left it a little while and hit it. WOW! Just fucking WOW. I have never had such a large, dense and nice tasting clouds from a vape before. Really am blown away by the performance of this thing.
The glass tube I didn't think I was going to like - I would have preferred the bubbler - but it's really enjoyable to use. The Herborizer milks it effortlessly, and it really simulates the bong experience as well as is possible with a vaporiser. Lovely bit of glass too.
7 seems to be the best temp to use. Although I have tried 8 a few times for a real POWERFUL hit! Letting it heatsoak for a minute gives it some extra oomph.
I haven't tried the email thing - I doubt I'll bother tbh. Maybe one day.
Bad stuff has been mentioned - it gets very hot and can be awkward to handle. You can grab the TI by the power cord plug, which is cool enough to hold. I have a glass table, I just leave it lying there while turned on. But it really needs a slide on handle and a stand. I found a lot of particles get through the screen into the bubbler. My glass looks filthy after only a couple of days use. I don't think there's a shut off timer, which has got me out of bed to check I have indeed turned it off for the night.
Overall - fucking love this thing. Still in the honeymoon period but it's going to have the top spot on my coffee table for the foreseeable future. Has usurped my MiniVap which was my favourite!
Any tips? Heatsoak or not heatsoak? Stir or not stir? Max temp you've pushed it to?
I have seen a lot of people mention that their glass gets dirty very quickly and i have found a super easy and simple solution to this!
When i use my RooR XL (herbo clone), VRIP wand or even my Errlectric herb nail standard, i get a LOT of particles sitting in the bottom of my WT. Looks disgusting after one session! This had to end!
The Errlectric has a super fine Titanium screen installed but it is still not enough.
Solution is to add a FINE screen underneath the original screen!
My WT's are now kept at least 90% cleaner with no to very little particles in the WT!
This means i get to clean the bowl more often but that is much easier than cleaning every WT!
If you have the means, try a coarser grind! Less goes through the screen, less waste, less terpene and trichome destruction, better airflow, more comfortable vapour and better flavour!
Just my but also what Herbalizer recommends for their convection device.
This is why i love this piece so much:
The fact that there is a flat section just beneath the bowl that water never reaches means the nasties that fall through all get stuck there and nothing ends up in the water.
I have literally gone two weeks without a clean on this piece and it was fine (i did change water daily though). All it took was a warm water rinse after two weeks and it looked brand new again. I could probably get away with changing the water once a week, but that's a bit gross....
When i first got the Ti i experimented with heating the nail off of the bowl, or on the bowl, and really in the end it is far more convenient to leave it on, i also get more consistent results that way.
You can get great taste by heating the nail to a higher temp and then dropping on a cold bowl, but it is harder to find that perfect vapour window consistently i found.
Now I just heat the nail 5 minutes or so on the bowl, anywhere from 5.5 to 6.5 depending of the time of day or the hit i want. To me the perfect hit is at 6. 7 starts to taste of popcorn, and i am surprised you managed 8 without combusting!
I warm everything up, load the warm bowl to the middle of the handle more or less, hit it straight away twice in a row, use my Brebbia pipe tool to stir once, tamper, hit one last time, dump AVB.
Also, just in case you haven't seen my o-ring fix previously, you can easily find silicon or viton o-rings and use them as a heat shield on the handle.
Inside diameter of 10mm and thickness of 4mm is perfect. I first got orange silicon ones, then replaced them with black viton ones.
It's much nicer than using the power cord to lift the handle.
PS: i wonder if this thread will ever get someone who isn't impressed by this vape!
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