Discussion in 'E-cig Based Portables' started by Gentlemans, Feb 5, 2012.
if ur gonna use this type of cart. go w/D9, my two cents
Sorry I am new to this stuff. What is a D9? Thanks
sorry, delta9vapes.com. they pioneered this style of hash oil cart. gentlemen's basically ripped them off w/ an inferior product. go check out the omicron or persei thread. both dedicated to D9. if this is the style of cart you are looking for ('specially while waiting for cera) you should get urs from D9 or planetvape.ca. much better quality and care. my two cents
As usual, our Bob is not only a flashy dresser, but he's seriously undervaluing his advice.
And, IMO, he missed the most important distinction with the D9 Omicron carts, they are purpose built to feed hash oil, not cobbled up from e-cig stuff on the cheap. Omicron carts meter the goods out, maybe 300 hits to the gram, for a few grams before fouling up too bad to carry on. Say 1000 hits on average? They were designed with a second heater to preheat the oil so the wicks can feed it properly. Ten dollar carts work, 'every time' and work well. That's the big difference.
You can even use most of the cheap pens from other systems. A few directly, the others need a five dollar thread adapter. Check them out. One of the clues is one of those threads is 8,000 posts long! The other is ten thousand. That's a lot of interest.
Wow, some local Redding, CA are jumping on the eGo rebrand band-wagon, I can't make my own threads and I didn't know where to put this so I thought I would throw it in this thread since most of the convo is about rebranded eGo's and omicron's.
These kids even claim:
"The VaporCone vaporizer is the first electrical dry herb / solid vaporizer that’s, odorless, smokeless, and refillable."
Here is the same post I just made on facebook calling these people out, I think I might know the people who own them because I am friends with half of their buddy list:
Wow, talk about blatant lying. There are a thousand products literally IDENTICAL to this, and you know that because all you guys order them from china. this is an eCiggarette people, don't be fooled. it doesn't work properly for marijuana, even with the shitty hash oil cart:
this is a rebranded eGo(t,w,c,twist)/gpen/trippystix.... these are cheap chinese ePens rebranded and marked up. good game to be in right now, how did I become a fan of this and why do so many people I know like it? if you want a real american made product try something like ThermoVape . if you want a cheap epen that is the EXACT same as this get one of these eGo-twists, exact same thing but you can adjust the voltage, then just get a cheap hash cartomizerhttp://www.amazon.com/eGo-Twist-650-mAh-Black/dp/B00APTZ2H2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1360118501&sr=8-1&keywords=ego+twist
then if you want a KILLER hash cat/atomizer instead of some cheap chinese crap that puts random metallic vapors in your lungs get a revolution, all medical grade parts and USA made. plus you can boil them, soak in alcohol and clean like no other, if they ever break thermovape will rebuild it completely for $15 (no I dont work for these people but if you are gonna sell a product made for 'vaping' it shouldnt be shit that will give people cancer!)
Here is a link too their facebook page, tell go ahead and tell them what you think if you are so inclined!
and here is there order page $55, not too bad, just hate the lying: http://www.vaporconedirect.bigcartel.com/
Gentleman's has the worst customer service I have experienced so far. I opened a support ticket on Monday and still haven't heard back from them.
Nearly two whole days? Chump change in the world of bad Customer Service, not to take away from their fine efforts of course.
Sorry to sound harsh, but two days won't get them to the semi-finals. We get spoiled by vape makers going the extra mile all the time and get to thinking we're entitled to that level in all cases. Lots of times these are very small concerns, coming down to one very harried guy with a day job and a family he's trying to support and a marriage he hopes to save. Sometimes that slows 'little problems' up a bit.
It's not like spotty CS here isn't a well discussed issue. If prompt CS is very important to you, perhaps next time you can include that in your selection?
Best of luck getting it sorted out. FWIW, I think a shift to Omicron carts (you can still use the battery you have, may need an adapter) is the best plan. Most who try it report success and never go back.
Ha, I ordered the hash oil carts 2 pack in December, one worked fine and the other came DOA. You can see on the dead one that one of the ends of the coils is not attached or came apart and that was how it was sent to me. Ive sent 3 support tickets, the 1st one at the end of december minutes after receiving it and have not gotten one response back soI gave up.
I ended up selling the one that did work because nomatter what i put into it i could not get rid of this weird metallic taste.
Ye be warned! Stay away
I have the Gb battery. Works great with my vaped brand dome and nails.
Am on the verge of riping this company appart. I have spent $400 with them and EVERYTHING HAS BROKEN. Its like they make novelties, not actual quality products. And if any of you that have purchased from them noticed, we are doing quality controll for them.
They're shit is made in China and they have 0 standards when compared to QC in the US.
On my last fuckin' nerve with these scam artists.
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He has three submitted links, all about Gentleman's vapes. One comment, on a link about Gentleman's vapes. Redditor for 1 hour.
EDIT: Looks like it's been removed. I'll leave this here to remind people how shady this company is.
Hahaha I'm sure they got peeps in all threads "monitoring"
How ironic, they're sure not acting like a gentleman.
No they are not ! I have sent a number of e-mails(5-2-13) along with my "espianage" & they have yet to respond .
You will never get an A if you do the research after the paper.....
Hey guys, first post here over at FC!
So, I (hastily) ordered a g pen the other day and am already regretting my purchase even though it hasn't shipped yet, as i've heard nothing but bad things about these re-labeled ecigs. Is the gentleman double agent also one of these e-cigs or is it a pretty good choice? Really I'd just like something for under like $160...
I'm looking to vaporize shatters, waxs, and glycerine tinctures.
However, in their defense, I don't think you can prove they actually use the stuff they're flogging? They might say something like 'we only claimed to make vapes for gentlemen, we never claimed to be gentlemen ourselves'?
In a rare serious moment, they are not alone in not coming here to defend their products and answer questions. Most makers have a modest presence at most. And we can be a pretty rude bunch, full of ourselves and out to slam others, such that even generally well respected makers of established and well liked products like Iolite have been driven off by the abusive treatment given by some.....in the case of Iolite they tried several times IIRC. IMO you can't blame a guy for not wishing to get his face slapped let alone turning cheek after cheek after cheek.
I think is a very positive thing when a maker shares information and answers questions here, but it might not be a negative reflection on the product or the maker if they don't?
A solid product should stand on it's own. I think we, as a group, are well able to asses it's utility and quality and share that information?
Yes, Gentlemans is just more e-cig tech.
If you are looking for load-as-you-go pen, take a look at the VaporBros Dabbler.It may look like the other rebranded Ecigs, but its been designed and built here in the USA using RoHS and ISO 9001 factories. Check out the Dabbler Thread.
If you want to be able to load .5-.6 at a time and GO! look at Delta9Vapes and their line of Omicron products. I think you would be looking for the Omicron Light. They have developed a patented cartridge that has been proven time and time again for those who take the time to learn the product. Also they offer complete warranty replacement HASSLE FREE. Cant get that with Chinese imports... I personally own a Persei and couldn't be happier with my purchase. I was actually in the same situation you were about a month ago. I had to cancel my previously ordered portabe vape from another company because I learned about the Persei and did my research using the PERSEI THREAD.
Use the SEARCH option WITHIN the threads you want to research and you will be able to find the answers to your questions much faster.
Hope this helps my friend. STEER CLEAR OF REBRANDED ECIGS.
Spend your $$$ with a company that is dedicated to its customers, and offers the utmost in service.
Wow everyone here has had really negative experiences with gentleman's, I am truly surprised as my experience is totally different.
I have had Delta9 products and I didn't like the wick system so I decided to start looking for something else. I bought a ego c with a vaped glass globe thinking it didn't have a wick and IMO the glass globe combusts and on top of that it has a wick which i was disappointed with.
I got a gentleman's hash oil V2 cart a few days ago from a friend that ordered a 3 pack. screwed it into my ego-c and I have finally found what I am looking for. It's the most clean tasting and easy cart I have ever use. And although I haven't measured the temp of the coil, I believe it is vaping and not combusting the oil, well atleast compared to the vaped glass globe/omicron carts(especially the glass globe).
My problem with omi carts is the oil would end up tasting like nasty reclaim after .2-.4gs of oil, like I would get this plasticy reclaim horrible taste and it kept happening to me (i went through atleast 7 omi carts). The glass globe - straight combustion all i have to say. But this thing never looses its taste, and it's WICKLESS. Idk why everyone doesn't like these maybe I have had a better experience or something but gentleman's has the best cart on the market IMO. I don't plan on using the batteries but I really recommend people to try these carts if you are looking for a clean tasting, easy loading experience in a pen.
The wick is in the center of the coil that the ceramic surrounds. Its def NOT wickless. It eats up wax. and they dont QC the product, so, go buy a box of 5 and tell me how many of those 5 actually work...
They DO work, and ARE a temporary solution for a session or maybe 2, but dassit.
there are better alternatives.
There is definitely not a wick in the V2. All there is is a nichrome heating wire that is coiled up. Get your facts straight.
Wax does go a lil faster but im not too worried about it because the taste is worth it.
Also my friend DID buy a box of 5.. and guess what, all 5 worked.
I believe I must have a box of mislabeled carts then
I hope everyone has great experiences with everyone, im not trying to badmouth. I just have had the worst luck with every purchase from them. I DO have carts that are also labeled V.2 that look like they do not have a wick. I'll make sure I use those since I thought I had thrown all of the other carts w/fiberglass wick out...
Yeah man, No worries. I understand a lot of people are having bad experiences, especially with customer service, which I never had to deal with.
But I do encourage you to give the wickless v2's another try. I can't speak for the longevity yet but it is just amazing how long this cart can retain flavor. I've loaded about 1 gram so far in small .2-.3 loads and the flavor just doesn't go away. Even when It's almost done the flavor is still there just as much as the first hit. This is something I have never experienced with a vape pen which makes Gentleman's stand out imo.
Indeed? I can understand how that would sour a guy....however I suggest that's not the normal experience? With a few exceptions I run many grams typically and dump the cart from poor production, not out and out failure or bad taste. I assume you're not using 2.4s and/or are pushing it?
For myself, I've had some good results with these guys (as well as a few others) but also issues like J2T. I find the Revolution/DART system vastly superior in the 'holds a small bit of oil or wax' category. No wicks (if that's a disqualifier, not so IMO), decidedly clean taste and can be easily and completely cleaned. Unfortunately they're out of production.....but I got mine so I'm set since it's basically a 'one time only' buy.
Of the perhaps dozen 'pens' of various types I've got set up are two 'smallest possible' rigs made up of 350 mAh 'Ego pens', one with a DART and the other with a GV (since it's the shortest cart available). The 'battery' is shorter on that one as well, so it's a bit under four inches (3/4 inch shorter than the other). To match that (not quite) I have to remove the 'DART tip' and filter assembly which is I think an excellent feature worth keeping.
Four inches is really pretty small, it's in danger of turning sideways in typical pockets....
A fun toy, and somewhat useful, but not one I really recommend to new users?
I've used both the 1.5 and the 2.4s. I liked the 1.5s but i would get that horrible reclaim taste with both. I wasn't overfilling them, just .5 gs at a time. I really wondered if anyone had the same experience.
The gentleman's carts just provided a much better taste for me for sure. also they are easier to fill which i liked.
As for the dart, they look great and I always wanted one, but they dont sell them anymore!!
how does the dart compare to the GV?
so i have had the arizer solo for at least a year now. works amazingly (though ive found vaporizing sativas works better than vaping pure indicas - i generally combust those through my bubbler).
but i generally have to bring a one-hitter w/ box for "out and about medicating," which sucks.
so i ordered the gentlemans micro vape (which i was told by gentlemans is the espionage pen)
i ordered it on a friday and it was in my mailbox on monday. awesome! unfortunately, arizona does not allow waxes or oils yet (apparently thats considered a "manufactured drug" or some shit, even though i can buy flowers legally), so over the weekend i made my first batch of bho (separate thread, but i want to try it with shake next time, not expensive buds - might have to use craigslist - ack!)
loaded about half of my bho up and it lasted through the weekdays, taking a couple hits a day. i have been getting totally baked from it. though it seems the high is different than vaping or smoking plants - maybe more cerebral and less physical/body high?) then loaded up the remainder of my bho the other day. we shall see how long a batch of bho made form an eighth of buds lasts in this. i have nothign to compare it to to see if im burning through it normally, too fast or what.
the taste is good, but if you take off the silicone cap and try an inhale, it tastes like shit. also, the wax seems to be all around the bottom sides of the cart, with a hole so you can directly see the coil. is this normal?
i did hit it in a sold out movie theater the other night and my gf said she could totally smell it (i could even see the cloud rising but it seemed to dissipate quickly). i also blew it into my smoke detector and it set it off. (have not yet tried that with the solo).
anyone have any tips on using this? not sure if i should use it "press button couple secs on, one sec off, couple secs on, etc) or just hold hte button down till it auto shuts off?
thanks! will report back after i go through the rest of this bho.
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