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Davinci by Karma

Discussion in 'Portable Vaporizers' started by VaporNinja, Jan 21, 2012.

  1. Davinci_vaporizer

    Davinci_vaporizer Well-Known Member Manufacturer

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    Dear FC members,

    As the designer and manufacturer of Da Vinci, I would like to address the comments regarding mystery vapor and offer this comprehensive response. The mystery vapor which few have seen is a short term purification process of an organic rock based insulation material called Mica (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mica) which if not fully 'burned in' will continue to burn off the impurities until cooked away. Because Mica sheet is an organic rock compound, the amount of dirt and sand (impurities) varies inch by inch and can leave a larger deposit in one application over another. The purpose of the Mica Sheet is to insulate the heating wires from the metal bowl (this keeps the bowl from passing electricity to any metal object you might stick in it).

    We chose to use Mica sheet insulation because it is well proven in the consumer and vaporizer industry. It is used in your oven, microwave, lanterns and other vaporizers because it insulates electricity and is an organic material that is stable in high heat environments. We also feel the organic compound is a better choice than the adhesive backed synthetic insulating jackets that are also offered.

    All manufacturers employ a 'burn in' process and as a result to comments on mystery vapor, we have doubled our 'burn in' time to further eliminate these impurities. This additional burn in time has curbed all issues. But if there was any remaining organic vapor, it is because we use several Mica layers wrapped around the bowl and occasionally a collection of debris may take longer to burn off.


    Da Vinci is one of very few brands who actually own and operate their own dedicated manufacturing facility so I take great concern on the materials brought in and our QC processes. We are engaged with the vape community in an unending effort to raise the bar and help bring the best products to market. In the end, we are a dedicated group of like-minded souls who wake and breathe the dream of building the ultimate vaporizer and we respect your insights.

    So along with these elaborate explanations, I thank you for the scrutiny. Such comments have tuned our ears and I have buried myself in 'bowl research' for the last year. The cumulation of my research has led us to develop the most advanced glass on glass portable vape (www.davincivaporizer/Ascent - coming this March) with great detail to a consistent bowl temperature and uniform heat. The pure taste will be a 'first' in the industry and with a 4 hour battery in a device smaller than the iPhone is a testament that we are listening to a committed vape community.

    Thank you again for your continued support and respectful comments.
     
  2. ej2389

    ej2389 Active Member

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    Wow, I honestly thought this response would never come, so thank you. So it is okay to be inhaling that mica vapor? I'm willing to trust davinci on this, but I have to know whether something is safe to inhale before I do it. Just reread the post, so it is actually dirt and sand vapor, not micah vapor, am I correct? Am I ok to use my unit that still does this, or should I send it back in?
     
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  3. vaporbrothers

    vaporbrothers Well-Known Member Manufacturer

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    Of all the vape companies we've come to know over the years I'd say the guy(s) behind Da Vinci are among the smartest and most experienced people we've met so far. :)
    -Linus V.
     
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  4. Davinci_vaporizer

    Davinci_vaporizer Well-Known Member Manufacturer

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    The unit is fine, as it is truly just dirt and sand, but as we've stated in the past, if you're worried about it or think its an inconvenience to cycle it through that many times, I'll be happy to send a new one out for you. At the end of the day, I just want you to be happy with your product.
     
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  5. vape4life

    vape4life Banned for life

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    Will a new replacement be guarenteed against the dirt/sand offgass? And approx. how many cycles to burn off the ones that have it the most?
     
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  6. Davinci_vaporizer

    Davinci_vaporizer Well-Known Member Manufacturer

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    Well, given that we are still using that specific material, I can't guarantee that it won't do it for a short time period. However, we discontinued the use of the double wrap as it was just taking entirely too long and have increased the burn in time at the production facility. Typically, 7-10 cycles on 405F should do the trick if there is a sign of vapor. Pretty sure I personally cycled at least 700 vapes when we first noticed this problem.
     
  7. vape4life

    vape4life Banned for life

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    Your professionalism and presence is greatly appreciated here. I have a renewed interest in your products.
     
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  8. Davinci_vaporizer

    Davinci_vaporizer Well-Known Member Manufacturer

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    Vape4life, I'm glad to hear that you appreciate our presence on here. As a manufacturer, we get so much from this forum including feedback and design ideas. You guys are invaluable to the industry. Thanks for the support.
     
  9. krunch

    krunch New Member

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    So i've been using my davinci for a few months now and my only real complaint is that the screens seemed to get clogged up with resin in just a couple of uses. I've since used up all the extra screens so now use it without any. This seems to give me the most unrestricted flow of vapor at the cost of getting some tiny bits of herb in my mouth. What does everyone else do?

    Secondly, do you guys clean your units with anything other than just the brush? I feel like it could use a more thorough cleaning every once in a while.
     
  10. ej2389

    ej2389 Active Member

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    Soak them in alcohol rinse and reuse. Use an airduster for a thorough clean
     
  11. zomger

    zomger Active Member

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    This. Do it. I'm still using my original screens because of this method. Soak in alcohol for a few minutes then (an alternative to air duster) take the DV brush and brush off the debris. Works like a charm.

    On another note it is wonderful to hear from you Davinci about the issue that has concerned so many in this thread and I hope the reluctant few that didn't purchase your product are now willing to give it a try because it really is a great little device. It is apparent that Karma is in this business, not to just make a quick buck but to make a quality product they can stand behind and that's something to truly admired. Keep up the great work and I am very excited to how you guys takes this to the next level with version 2.0
     
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  12. Dreamerr

    Dreamerr Always in a state of confusion and silliness♀

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    I use iso with q-tips in the chamber but hold it upside down. I put the top screen with cap in iso.
     
  13. krunch

    krunch New Member

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    well now i feel silly for throwing those screens away. But you could barely see any metal at all the resin was so thick
     
  14. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

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    So next time why not try flaming them? Hold them by the edge in a small clamp (old out of work roach clips are good for this....) and blast it with one of those little torch lighters. Make that Stainless Steel glow! The ash blows off easily after that. In vapes like my Iolite where this happens a lot I save a little jar of them until I have a few month's worth (a dozen or so).

    OF
     
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  15. Egzoset

    Egzoset 1SipAToke/Blender Vaporist (v3.1)

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    Salutations Davinci_vaporizer,

    We don't often get the news 1st hand, everyone needs to recognize that!

    :clap:

    Mica has been used before as i recall seeing related pictures illustrating what you've just described.

    Now there's progress made as far as i'm concerned, thanks about that!

    :peace:
     
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  16. GreenRoom

    GreenRoom Well-Known Member

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    Just a quick FYI if you haven't already figured it out, the rubber tip on the whip fits perfectly in the oven so if you need to pack down loose grind or jam a screen down there, use that. I find that if my grind is too loose it will quickly clog the upper screen when I draw, so a little tamping with the whip keeps it nice n neat.
     
  17. Davinci_vaporizer

    Davinci_vaporizer Well-Known Member Manufacturer

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    Couldn't agree with you more about the top screen getting clogged if the plant material is ground too finely. Personally, I don' grind at all primarily because of this. Nothing we can do here though, its caused by the airflow and it sucks everything upwards.
     
  18. GreenRoom

    GreenRoom Well-Known Member

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    No grind? I've contemplated that but thought it wouldn't extract all the potential vapors. I'll try a whole flower tonight and compare. Anything that sticks to the screen is no big deal though, I just give it a quick scrape with the back end of the brush when the unit is still warm. I may even poke it with the bristles to get all the nooks and crannies. God I love that brush. Brilliant!
     
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  19. MarchLM

    MarchLM Member

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    Hi , Davinci team, could i ask - what should I do - im using my vape for a long time, almoust a year i guess... and my biggest problem is- screwing stem - with chambers lover screen - is really sticky - and i cant unsrew them anymore ... i guess some of the sticky vapor got in those small groows and stick together making it unbelievable hard and almoust impossible to unscrew ... :((

     
  20. Dreamerr

    Dreamerr Always in a state of confusion and silliness♀

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    If you heat up the DV you should be able to get it off. Good luck.
     
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  21. GreenRoom

    GreenRoom Well-Known Member

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    Yup, what she said. Then wipe the threads with ISO for easy future unscrewing pleasure.
     
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  22. MarchLM

    MarchLM Member

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    thanks bros
     
  23. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

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    Not to worry, it happens a lot. First off, take it apart hot, much easier. Secondly get in the habit of using some ISO on a q-tip or something to keep the thread areas cleaned up. It's easy and fast if you keep after it.

    Good machines, aren't they? Good luck.

    OF
     
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  24. Davinci_vaporizer

    Davinci_vaporizer Well-Known Member Manufacturer

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    I was going to answer..but failed to read the rest of the thread...which said the same thing I would. Sorry, now you guys are stuck reading a useless message because it wouldn't let me delete it.

    Here's something useful: Enter to win a New Ascent!
    http://thedavincivaporizer.com/win-the-ascent-from-davinci/
     
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  25. Dreamerr

    Dreamerr Always in a state of confusion and silliness♀

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    I entered but where is our personal contest to win. It better not be a tweeter again.

    I used my DV today after weeks of not using it and it is just toooooooooooooooooooo good. It happened to be clean too which made it that much the better. I think it would be my to go vape if the lid was movable and if it didn't get so hot. I think I would like it more then the INH believe it or not. I did put the INH tip so I could put the smoothflow on it. It makes for better cooler hits for me.
     
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