Davinci by Karma

I understand it might go away, its just not comforting to think that it could be there while vaping, it is hard to tell if you are inhaling both at the same time... All i want is for Davinci themselves to adress the situation

Stop fucking putting words in my mouth. I already addressed this. I didn't say it is necessarily toxic, I said it could be.

You also haven't proven the vapor to be coming from the rubber. That is a theory. And you ignoring my point that davinci themselves told me the product is not supposed to do this.

I get that, but I sure don't expect DV to get into this, do you really?

In a twisted way it's kind of a 'when did you stop beating your wife?' thing. A no win for them?

Past saying it shouldn't be happening (and why would they ever say it should?) and offering replacements there's really not much they can do I think....or they would?

As Mae West said, "you pays your money and takes your choice".

OF

Although you do give good arguments, it is not good for their customers to be scared of their product... I mean, come on that is ridiculous. If the fumes arent natural at least tell us exactly what they are or SOMETHING... I am still returning my DV due to this and getting a pax instead, sorry for them but they just lost a customer.

Any company should be willing to answer to reports like this, if only to dispel a myth. If they aren't they are hiding something.

Good job. At least someone else around here recognizes how absolutely crazy this is.

No, I see it as your scaring off a guy who hasn't even seen his yet. Big difference.

By all means go find a product that makes you happy, that's the whole idea.

OF

I'm not scaring him off. He already said if it does this at all he doesn't want to take the risk. Even you admit they do this at least in the beggining. That alone violates his wants. If I'm scaring him off, then so are you.

This is pretty much true, I ordered the product not knowing about these fumes, I know all vapes have fumes at first due to production. But, when for a lot of people these fumes have stayed around and I have also checked out some videos, it does not seem too safe. I havnt heard any of these problems with the PAX so far. If anything the only problem with the pax is cleaning it all the time

Silly me, I read him saying "I ordered one the other day and found out about that problem only recently. My davinci has not arrived yet but I am worried to even consider the vape, I don't want burnt plastic going into my lungs......" and took that to mean he hadn't even got it yet.......

Somehow he got worried about non existent "burnt plastic", I made what seemed like a logical assumption on how that might have happened.....

Well and good, but there's also a lot of us who claim they do in fact go away. Check it out for yourself or not, your call.

Good luck which ever way you go. FWIW Pax seems to have a loyal following, although like most vapes a few detractors. It's a very personal world around here. Lots of experts.....

OF

No you were clear in your arguments, don't get me wrong but it is not only ej that has brought up the problem, but others in the thread too. I have been reading through and once I read more thoroughly I realized this problem was very prominent.

Honestly, if it was harmful I do not believe you will die instantly of toxic fumes... They harm you more in the way of cancer.... But you might have gotten a product that has not been effected by this problem which is great . I am going to try and burn off the vapor hoping it disappears but if it is not gone within a day, I am returning it. I got it off of ebay and dont have too much time to return it if I need to.

Yeah, it's pretty lightweight though. I mean it's no Trippy Stick, G Pen or RAW now is it?

Could well be, but not the sort of stuff you expect from FOOD SAFE materials, usually.

FWIW I think you missed Stu's point, but I'm not sure it's really important? The point he was making, I think, is he agrees with me that the vapors burn off over time?

OF

Ya stu if you were expecting to take one hit and fall over dead, I don't know what to tell you. You aren't gonna notice anything until its too late. That's an excellent plan to test it. I did the same thing, and it didn't pass for me.

BTW I will report back my findings once I have cycled my brand new unit 100 times. Lets see if that's enough to make it go away, though I think most people would be frustrated by the 30 times I've already cycled.

Headache enough all points made this is just going in circles now. Like Stu said buy or don't or get something else. All will believe what they want and some don't even give a shit about inhaling a mystery vape. Not everyone stops combusting for health reasons there are many reasons. Kids huff and do all kinds of stuff what makes you think they care if a vape off gases. We are all aware of the issues with this vape and the fact that almost all vapes need a burn in to burn off machine oils and crap. We all make our decisions based on what we feel comfortable with. I personally would never by a pax does that make you wrong for wanting one...NO.
I personally hate this emotioncon but it fits here

Good points, Honestly I am probably not going to buy a pax just yet.... I will give the davinci a try, I bought it over the pax because of all the cool features it had. I really just hope that it doesnt end up to be a bust

One man's bust can be another's pride an joy. I think it is a 'feature rich' vape. It has shortcomings, of course, but the temperature control is really first rate IMO. It lets you 'work' a small load in stages.

I don't know if you can get concentrates where you are, but it comes with 'cans' for that use. I pulled a bit out of a Volcano pad and stuck it in the bottom of one of mine and use it for hash oils (a drop or two at a time) or bubble (a personal favorite). If you can get concentrates, I recommend you check that part out.

Anyway, good luck with DV, I think it has a lot to offer. I'd get another for sure if I somehow lost this one.

OF

I have a medical card, so yea concentrates are accessible. For god sakes im in norcal where some of the dankest of the dank thrives . But thanks man i appreciate it

You're welcome. Good luck with your endeavors.

OF

Euh...
Harmless empty-bowl fumes?... Why do i keep missing the crunchy passages?!!

Maybe this can be settled with a vote. Like, who's still getting persistant fumes from an empty DaVinci bowl, etc., and who isn't???

...with a video being mandatory for each reply...

Item worked perfectly for 24 hours. Now the red/green led blinks 5 times, pauses 2 seconds, blinks 5 times, pauses 2 secs. forever. The digital display reads 879 deg in F mode, reads 958 in C mode and is adjustable +/- 100. Item does not heat up. Put on charger for several hours with no change. The charger is functioning properly. Loved it when it worked. Have sent the vendor an email, they have a two week no questions asked return policy for refund or replacement. I don't want a refund as I loved the performance when it performed. Also, did not have the gassing problem experienced by many as I tested with nothing in chamber, new out of box, several times connected to charger and viewed with flashlight as others have, no visible emissions. Not sure if I should get a replacement DV or go PAX. Seems DV has great design features but can't produce a finished, reliable product. Wow, am a bit stunned, just got off the telephone with Karma Classic and told them I was having a problem with a DV that I just received, and HE TOLD ME THE PROBLEM BEFORE I DESCRIBED IT TO HIM!, are they selling products with known defects? Wow, not having a real good feeling about this purchase, here is a YouTube link to demo problem:

Your call, but after using my DV everyday for a couple months I would say give them another shot. I love mine and have had zero issues. I don't have any other vapes to compare it to, but I'm a very happy customer.