Discussion in 'Vapor Related Equipment' started by CentiZen, Aug 11, 2012.
Wow, strict. If you ever need any help with this project, just let me know.
Can we say fuck Fedex & UPS, and get one via Canada Post ?
I haven't looked in to CP, but I guess for orders within Canada they could work fine. I will do some research tomorrow and see if they are an option for orders. I am also looking into purolator as an option.
very interesting project, you have another customer here...
About how much would one battery pack cost?
Any new news ?
CP is fine for International shipping as well (it transfers to USPS).... where they lose out on shipping cost they don't so much on crazy internal brokerage brokerage fee's.
Interested on update as well! Thanks alot!!
CP looks like it will work fine actually, and it's going to be my last resort if FedEx does not work out. Right now I'm waiting on more supplies to make more packs and a extra solo for testing. I will be pumping these out very soon, and I'm really sorry for getting everyone's hopes up before I was ready to do that.
No worries, lol.... as my M102 is only at the 'slow down' stage of battery life (so far), and just wanted to make sure your still in the game of wanting to follow through on this.
That's great Centizen! You can ignore my question about these in the Solo thread just recently.
Any kind of info on what to expect so far, or not enough testing done yet? Any ballpark ETA or cost? If these make a significant difference I am 100% buying another Solo and then getting this battery pack from you bro! Thanks for doing this!!!
The testing is more for each individual pack rather than for the design in general. It's a pretty safe design using all CE certified parts; but there's a weird problem with the way Arizer wires their batteries, in that I think all of them have the lead colors reversed; so that black is positive and red is negative. I'm just not entirely sure if that is the way it is on all the solos or not, but's its the way it is on mine.
You da man Centizen. Your work and dedication is appreciated. Do your thing and just let us know when u can! Thanks again!
Sent you a PM.
Hey Centizen, not to drive off topic here but I just ripped open my vb2.0 and by the sounds of it, you're essentially going to be placing the same setup used in the VB2.0 into the solo. The VB is running a small board with an 18650 pack believe it or not! I'm excited to see progress.
Well the original pack design was using two NCR18650A cells, but now Panny has their NCR18650B cells available to the market with an extra 300mAh of juice over the 3100mAh A cells. So I'm trying to figure out what the best option to use is. The B cells offer just under a 10% increase from the 3100mAh cells while increasing the cost of each individual cell by about 20%. I'd like to know what you guys think, if you think the small extra increase in capacity justifies the increase in price or if the original design was good enough as is.
A pack made with the A series cells would cost about 35 dollars shipped, and have a capacity of 3100mAh at 7.4 volts. Assuming Arizer is using the fairly cheap and standard 2100mAh packs, this is a 147% increase in capacity, and by extension, run time.
A pack made with the B series cells though would cost about 42 dollars shipped, and they would have a capacity of 3400mAh at 7.4 volts. This would be a 160% increase in capacity to the original pack.
With either of them, what you could expect is longer runtimes. The speed at which it charges won't be affected too much, if at all. These aren't more powerful batteries, they are just bigger tanks. With the A series pack you would get two extra sessions out of it easy. With the B pack, you would get three extra no problem and may even be able to eke out a fourth if your conservative.
Would you be able to take a couple of pictures? I'd really appreciate it.
Yeah not a problem ill take a few when I get home.
CentiZen thank you for the info! That sounds great! Personally for a measly extra $7, i'd go with the B cells myself, or maybe have 2 options? Whatever is obviously easier for you...
As the packs that came originally with my Solo did 'ME' fine for sessions, and the 'A' cells you propose offers 147% capacity increase over original... that would do me very fine at the cost proposed.
** I thought, or was under the impression, though that the heat up speed times were affected (positively) with your packs ? I could have sworn that I had read that you claimed it had but for the life of me I can't find the reference now...... lol, maybe it was just hopeful thinking ? although the wait time isnt really all bad originally anways
Your right, I did say that in the opening page of posts, but I was slightly mistaken. What I had though was the battery heating up the unit quicker was just the fact that I had gone from a dying pack to a new one, and that was the jump in temperature time I noticed.
That being said, these batteries are a lot high quality than the ones in the stock cells and will stay better, longer. So you will notice an increased performance as opposed to the other packs, but not anything that exceeds the normal running specifications of higher quality competing packs.
Ran out of edit time; if a mod could merge posts I'd greatly appreciate it.
I've found a good, legit supplier for the B series cells who sells them at prices that make the extra capacity a no brainer. If someone would rather have a pack made with A series cells I'd be happy to oblige them but the lead time would be longer because I would supply those as needed. I've placed orders for enough parts to do a limited first run of packs.
As well, I now am no longer going to limit myself to the Arizer Solo vaporizer. The Inhalater INH004, XP, Pax, and from the looks of it, the VaporBlunt 2 all are based off of 18650 technology and would benefit from the extra capacity of the NCR18650. I am going to get my ducks in a row and start a new thread for the whole shabang.
Will someone like me be able to change it is the question? I know I won't be able to do the INH but I thought the solo was a plug in once you have them set up. Is that true?
You could do the INH Dreamerr. I would provide detailed instructions.
I thought the wires were short and can break easily...I trust you so if you think I can even snap that bottom cap off then ok. If the solo is plug and play then I can do it for sure.
You can definitely do the Solo, but as Taylor mentioned i'd think twice about the INH. Although Centizen and I both have opened up the INH, and it's super easy to swap the battery, you DO have to be careful when you are prying it open because yes you can rip the thin wires right out. It was easy for me, but if you don't know or lack confidence, I wouldnt risk it.
Centi, I guess the battery for the INH is easy to find and replace? I mean a "better" battery like you're sourcing for the solo, or did Pharmacor improve the quality since they claim that the xp has better battery life.
If you know exactly where to pry and push, you can get the end off very easily. The battery just pops out. The battery that Pharmacor ships the INH with is a Samsung 2600mAh cell.
Like vape said I will break the wires. The battery itself shouldn't be an issue.
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