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Discussion in 'Best Of' started by Archaicrevival, Feb 13, 2016.

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  1. flotntoke

    flotntoke thoroughly vaped

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    Sounds like you're definitely in right part of flame. When I use a triple jet in triangle config (instead of jets being inline) I find best heating with 2 jets hitting out towards end of cap, and 3rd jet lined up dead center and away from end of cap. Very simple diagram with blue dots as jets.

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  2. Square4Life

    Square4Life Well-Known Member

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    Had just posted this up over on Reddit. I don't have any experience with the omnivong but that shouldn't make much of a difference.

    I bought a portside recently from pipes...

    I think the torch is easier to perfect although once you get the depth tweaked (if needed) and the timing down...I'd say it performs easily as good as a torch, possibly better. I'll put it like this...since I've got the induction heater, I've only used a torch one time because I was out and about and just threw the dynastash in pocket.

    The timing is key. When my cap clicks using the portside and a titanium tip, I count "one, one thousand, two, one thousand, three, one thousand, four" and then pull it out. With the ss M tip, I take it to "four, one thousand" or even "5". The ss tips take a bit more to heat up but IMO...torch or induction heater, the M produces more and longer vapor. I also timed my saying and when I stop on "four", it is right at about 3.5 seconds. Of course, the depth plays a role in this too. I shaved off mayyyybbeeee 1\32 from the way Pipes sent it. But it made a huge difference. Just be careful, can easily take off too much. I was getting pretty significant scorching at the tip even when tamped it down away from the cap. Now it is almost perfectly cooked throughout.

    Another cool thing you can do with the induction heater is to heat it up as stated above, take a draw for a few seconds, stick it back in the heater for 1-2 secs, take another 2sec draw, put back into heater, etc. Once you get it down, and it isn't hard, you can fully extract a load very quickly and using only one cap click initially. Pretty cool stuff imo. Someone just reposted the vid recently if you look a page or two back.

    I'm very comfortable with the torches, spinning the Dynavap,, etc and have no issues with them but I've really enjoyed my Portside Induction Heater.

    Edit: oh one more thing....bed time hits! Not sure about you but as I'm winding down or possibly wake up and have a hard time sleeping, a quick hit or a few (lol) really help. It's so easy to grab the DV, stick it in the heater using a finger to hold it down, you can feel the click, count like I said above and then pull it out. Torch works but not near as easy as this for this particular scenario.

    Let me know if you have any questions:)

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  3. Dynavaper

    Dynavaper Divided by Zero

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  4. stardustsailor

    stardustsailor Accessory Maker

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    Most probably yes ,they are the same material,as I was not able to trace any quad (X-) rings made of Viton .
    Only from Buna N ( nitrile ) .

    The cap itself probably is going to last for pretty long years ( more than a few decades most probably ) ,
    if not damaged by any mechanical stress / force.
    But the "clickers" ( aka "snap discs" ,"bimetallic discs" ) have an average life range of just 3000 to > 100 000 clicks,depending on their quality (materials made of) and actual use ( or abuse = overheating ).

    That means that the cap as an operating unit (and not as a simple cover ) has indeed a "pre-programmed end of life " .
    Still,this is unavoidable .The "nature" itself of the "clickers" sets the limit.
    Every simple or complex moving mechanism ,eventually will wear-off.
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  5. Squiby

    Squiby Well-Known Member

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    How to Clean a Vapcap.....

    There are several ways to go about cleaning your Vapcap. I thought I might post some of the methods we've discussed for the benefit of the new Vapcap owners.

    The parts that require cleaning are the tip, CCD screen and the inside of the condenser/mp.

    FIRST USE. You should clean your Vapcap before using it to remove any machining residues. To clean your Vapcap before first use, disassemble your Vapcap by first removing the cap and pulling off the tip then using the digger litter to push out the condenser. If you have an Omni, remove the condenser by pulling it out by the mouthpiece. Then pop out your CCD screen by placing your tip opening down on a towel and then pushing the CCD out with the condenser pushing down through the neck. Moisten a Q-Tip with your favorite cleaner and run it through the tip and condenser and both sides of the screens. Rinse with warm water and leave to dry completely before re-assembling.

    1. DEEP CLEAN. You can take your Vapcap completely apart, remove the orings and soak your bits in your cleaner of choice. This would be a deep clean approach suitable for times when you have combusted or have a badly soiled Vapcap.

    I occasionally do a deep clean using a nontoxic cleanser that does not affect the orings. I mix Zeus Cleanser with very hot water. This mixture is poured into the doob tube that the omni came in. The ti tip, the ti screen and the condenser or Omni condenser/mp is then placed in the doob tube. Shake and then soak for 10 minutes or so. Remove the parts from the doob tube and swab them out with a moist Q-Tip. When no more gunk can be removed and everything is shiny clean, rinse well with clean clear water and leave out to dry completely before re-assembling. Then have a toke to celebrate your good work.

    Serious grime might need over night soaking.

    you can use ISO to clean your tips and condensers. Don't soak any orings in it. The instructions caution against using ISO because it is flammable. If you rinse and thoroughly dry your Vapcap after cleaning with ISO, you'll be fine.

    2. TIP SOAK. The tip can soaked without removing the orings by placing it upside down in a shallow bath of cleaner leaving the neck of the tip and the orings clear of the solution. After the soak, swab the tip out with a moist Q-tip rinse and dry completely.


    3. Q- TIP SWAB.
    I clean my Vapcaps once every month or two. I use a hemp filter sandwiched between two screens. This keeps the condenser completely free of any tiny particulates and very very clean for a long time. When the flavor goes off I remove the screens and filter, moisten a Q-Tip with cleaner and run it through the tip and condenser and both sides of the screens. After rinsing and drying I place one screen in the bottom of the tip, add a fresh degummed hemp fiber filter and top it off with another screen.

    The midsection and wood mouthpieces do not need cleaning. However, wood bodies, stems and mps all benefit from a light coating of hemp oil/beeswax or some other nice wood conditioner. I don't think that the carbon fiber midsections require any special treatment.

    4. TORCH THE TIP. You can quickly clean the herb chamber and screen by simply applying your jet lighter to the tip interior and screen. The flame will burn out any debris in no time.

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  6. Squiby

    Squiby Well-Known Member

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    Stems and bodies are not interchangeable on Omnis unless you buy a different length Omni condenser to accommodate a different length midsection.

    Vapcap midsections come in two lengths; 45mm midsections are called bodies and 62mm midsections are called stems.

    If you get an Omni XL it will come with a 62mm stem midsection. You can swap any other stem with your stock Omni XL stem.

    If you get a regular Omni it will come with a 45mm body midsection. You can swap any other body with your stock Omni body.
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  7. Squiby

    Squiby Well-Known Member

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    yes...Unless you seat the first screen at the bottom of the chamber, then add a filter and another screen on top. The c-cli holds the whole works together. You only really need one c-clip.

    The Vapcap is so great. Like the manual transmission analogy above, the Vapcap responds to the driver's technique. You are in charge and to blame for your results. Because you are in charge, subtle manipulation drives performance where an automatic vaporizer may be easier going in, with less of a learning curve, ultimately it's less fun and infinitely less nimble than the Vapcap. This is why the Vapcap rocks.

    I don't fully understand why some people put so much emphasis on producing billowing clouds. Personally I'm just in it to get stoned. Anyway, here are a few ideas that may help you to produce thick clouds of vapor.

    Stash. Drier herb will produce more white clouds of vapor than moist herb. Grind your herb and let it sit out a bit, or even put it on top of your TV and it will dry out in no time.

    Heater choice. Just about anything will heat a Vapcap. But for newbies the best choice is either an Induction Heater or a quad lighter.

    If using an IH, insert the Vapcap and wait for the click. Then continue to heat for another second or two. The maximum length that you can go past the click is about 3.5 seconds, like this: one 1000, two 1000, three 1000, 4. Stop heating, pull the Vapcap out of the IH and toke. If you have combusted, back off a second or so.

    Using a quad lighter, adjust your flame to it lowest setting, without sputtering. Apply the flame to the base of the cap next to the fins of the tip and the cap digger outter, while twirling the vapcap, so that heat is applied evenly around the cap. Heat a second or two past the click. Stop heating and toke. After the cooling click apply your heat a bit higher on the cap. The blue inner flame should just lick the cap. Don't immerse your VC in the flame.

    Draw technique. With your finger on the carb, pull vapor into your mouth, do not inhale directly into your lungs. Rather puff on it like you are drawing on a cigar or using a straw to bring a beverage into you mouth. Then after you have pulled a few puffs into your mouth, remove your finger from the carb and inhale fresh air into your lungs along with the mouthpulled vapor.


    The technique differs when using a single jet compared to say a quad.
    A section of the cap needs to be evenly heated. I heat the bottom half of the cap during the first cycle, then heat the middle third then the top half.

    A single jet lighter flame needs to oscillate or move back and forth over the area to be heated. This requires the dexterity to twirl the Vapcap in one hand and move the flame back and forth in the other. While I prefer a single jet lighter for it superior effects, success comes with practice and so I suggest that it is best to first master heating with a quad lighter as it covers full area to be heated with no movement.

    To resolve your scorching, try oscillating the flame when using a single or even double jet. You just don't want to heat a line around the cap.

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  8. Few Minute Programming

    Few Minute Programming I make videos

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    I put together a tiny tip list acompanied with gifs. I thought it would be nice to have a thread for beginners. In this case, a beginner can be someone who recently purchased the device or someone who's new to vaporizing. If you wish to watch the video version instead it can be found here:
    Click to play YouTube Video


    TIP LIST:


    1. Why vaporize at all - smoke has a plethora of dangerous compounds in it. Vaporizing reduces harm to your lungs by removing...
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    2. Torch Placement - Torch placement is important for determining the temperature of the bud. Pointing the torch on the bottom end will produce harsher/bigger hits while point at the top will result in smoother/tastier hits.
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    3. Rotation technique - This one is up to you but here is an example of how I personally spin the dynavap.
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    What are yalls favorite beginner tips? Let's help the newbies out!

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  9. Squiby

    Squiby Well-Known Member

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    Well, the Omni XL and Woody XLS measurers in at 109mm and is longer than the 92mm M by 17mm. The extra length is luxurious and can be easier to spin especially for those with largest hands.

    The M is the entry level, all stainless steel Vapcap. The Ti tipped Vapcaps (Woodys) have more features and the Omni is the top of the line all titanium Vapcap.

    People often suspect that performance must incrementally change from model to model. I don't think choosing one model over another is about performance so much. All Vapcaps are wonderful efficient vaporizers. I think it's more about budget, function and aesthetics. The basic M stainless steel tip and build vs the Ti tip with wonderful midsection possibilities vs a precision milled condenser and mouthpiece.

    The M is the least expensive Vapcap at $50. It has a stainless steel construction, including the tip. It is a great vaporizer but is basic in its design and engineering compared to the titanium tipped series of Vapcaps. Although you can switch out the stainless steel stem for other stems or Body/mp combinations, it does not have full modularity. For example, the Omni condenser will not function properly with the M tip. The ss tip is not quite as nimble as the ti tip with fewer air channels. It likely has a greater conduction ratio. The M is a fantastic economical adventure into the land of the Vapcaps. Everyone should have one. Take the M fishing...if you do drop it in the water, you will likely deeply mourn its loss BUT, it won't be the absolute end of the world.

    The ti tipped series of Vapcaps offer full modularity. Buying one will take you on a deep dive into accessory bliss. LEGO for stoners. You don't have to buy all the models, but with parts you can have any one at any time. The titanium tip is more finely crafted and precision engineered than the stainless steel M tip. It has an more air channels and they are wider and deeper and has finely milled fins. There is an addition oring to create a tight fit onto the condenser and into the body or stem. I think that the 5th gen ti tips offer a higher convection ratio.

    The full modularity of the ti tipped Vapcaps mean that you can switch up bodies and stems, straight or VonGs, mouthpieces and condensers. You can add an Omni condenser and achieve full dialled customized air flow.

    The all titanium Omnivap is the top of the line. It is a beast. The build is very tight, beautifully engineered with incredibly tight tolerances and should be considered a work of art. The Omnivap is beautiful. The Omni condenser/mp is not only a precision milled component which offers a set it and forget it airflow, perfect for use with water pieces, but it's robust core offers additional strength to the overall device. You can run over your Omni with your car but the M or Woody may not fare so well.

    Cautious folks should start with the M IMO.

    Those that love wood might choose a Woody with it choice of wood midsections and wood mouthpiece. It sports full modularity with other bodies, stems and mouthpieces and can accommodate the Omni condenser if you want to upgrade to an Omni in the future. The Woody has a fully manual air port.

    Those that want to own a finely crafted piece of art, indestructible precision workmanship, might dive headlong into the Omni with its dialed in set it and forget it airflow.
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