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Athlete Vaporists?

Discussion in 'Vaporization Discussion' started by Vapinghole, Apr 24, 2012.

  1. EverythingsHazy

    EverythingsHazy Well-Known Member

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    Do any of you guys practice MMA or any other martial art forms?

    If so, how do you feel a Cannabis buzz affects the different aspects? I feel like being buzzed might work well with BJJ, since being loose, relaxed, and creative, are all beneficial. I'm not as sure that it helps with striking, since there's a lot of fast reflex and muscle memory involved, and I don't think it would help much with wrestling, since it's so physically demanding.

    Also, regardless of whether or not being buzzed works well with martial arts performance, I do believe that Cannabis helps mitigate any concussive brain damage that one may experience from fighting.
     
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  2. His_Highness

    His_Highness In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king

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    Trained in Shotokan (Japanese), Tae Kwan Do (Korean) and Kung Fu (Chinese). Wrestled in high school.

    Didn't get high when I wrestled because I knew I'd be thrown off the team but the top two wrestlers on the team were always high. They were high during training and competitions. They both went undefeated senior year. Couldn't get past junior varsity till they graduated. They weren't heavily muscled but they were smooth and amazingly fast physically and mentally. To be that fast your mind and body has to be at peak performance. Getting high sure didn't hurt their performance.

    Other than wrestling I trained and competed high at least half the time. I only trained in "traditional" studios/styles where the history, culture and respect of the art was valued as much as the ability to hone the mind and body connections needed to protect yourself. In some cases you could trace the lineage of the art back 100's of years. I mention the traditional aspect because getting caught high in some of the places I trained would be considered disrespectful, dishonorable. I justified the disrespect of training high by telling myself that I was high half the time in real life and in order to have the right mind and body reactions I should train in a similar state. I wish there was vaping back then because my buzz breath was kicking and I was breathing pretty heavy at times and got a very respectful request from a head master to cut it out.

    The Good:
    - Internal power (not depending on muscle as much as technique) was easier to generate when I was high. I was taught that using your hip to generate the speed/power for a strike or kick meant relaxing the muscles completely until contact was made. Techniques like not tensing up till contact were always harder for me when I wasn't high. I run long distances for exercise now and find getting high before long runs allows me to relax into the run the same way.
    - External power (100's of kicks, strikes, holds done repetitively on each side till no muscle strength is left) was also easier because I was more mentally and physically relaxed and it would take longer to break me down.
    - When I trained on my own I would get buzzed, crank up some heavy metal and just get creative. Broke up the monotony and allowed the serious mindfulness to take a back seat and let the fun in. Doing forms/kata to music was great when I was high.

    The Bad:
    - Learning new complex techniques, forms, kata, etc. was an absolute bitch when I was seriously high.
    - Competitions were hit and miss. Sometimes getting high for competitions backfired because I couldn't stop over-thinking and at other times I would be in the zone. I eventually stopped getting high for competitions but would still occasionally get high for belt exams.
    - As I mentioned above...respect for the art and it's practitioners was huge and getting high was considered disrespectful.

    You're mileage may vary ;-)
     
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  3. Danksta

    Danksta Well-Known Member

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    Lifting and vaping goes really well together.

    The vaping helps me focus on my form and take my time.

    The lifting has beneficial effects to the vaping. Keep vaping, keep lifting, keep getting higher.

    I don't find running while high nearly as rewarding.
     
  4. Vapinghole

    Vapinghole Low-Temp Hempist / JedHI Master

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    High Everyone!

    Feeling nostalgic as I recently hit my 6th anniversary on FC which means six years fucking combustion for me.

    I started this thread almost six years ago. I’m delighted and humbled by the contributions since then. (EDIT: Special thanks to @His_Highness )

    Thank you all for helping better my life.

    Cheers!
    Vaponghole

    *hits Evolver Hydracirc on top of ticker Cloud*
     
  5. His_Highness

    His_Highness In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king

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    Wow!

    One of my favorite threads. I've used this thread to learn things, reminisce and motivate and focus myself before a long run or work out by posting something in it while waiting for my coffee to kick in.

    So ... Thanks @Vapinghole ! This thread bettered my life as well.

    Also a big ol' thanks to FC in general for the atmosphere that brings folks together like this.
     
  6. Aizen-sama

    Aizen-sama Fmr. Captain of the 5th Division

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    Yeah, this thread is cool because it really goes to show that the "lazy stoner" stereotype is a myth. Six years and 38 pages of evidence and counting, thanks @Vapinghole.

    I hit my one year anniversary of doing CrossFit back in February and I'm feeling great. This year my partner and I participated in the CrossFit Open (scaled). I was able to do kipping pull-ups for the first time during 18.3 which felt great--like real progress.

    On the advice of my GI doctor I gave up red meat and hard liquor at the beginning of the year as a non-resolution (people never keep those for long). It was seriously hard, I love my whisk(e)y, mescal, and various pork and beef products, but they are too inflammatory for my sensitive stomach. As a result of the lifestyle change (I eat vegetarian basically for most meals with a few chicken and fish meals thrown in, and mostly refined sugar free) I was able to give up the proton pump inhibitors I have been taking for 10 years; one less pharmaceutical in my life is a good thing. As a happy consequence of that and the CrossFit, I'm also about 15 pounds closer to my goal weight and down two pants sizes. 10 more lb to go! I'm happy enough eating Beyond Burgers when I get a beef craving feeling this good.

    Hope all my fellow Athlete Vaporists are having a great year of progress as well!
     
  7. Vapinghole

    Vapinghole Low-Temp Hempist / JedHI Master

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    Great post, @Aizen-sama. It resonates with me as I’m struggling to remove beloved items from my diet so I can stop taking my proton pump inhibitors.

    Cheers to you!
     
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  8. Polarbearboy

    Polarbearboy Tokin' Away Since 1968

  9. Polarbearboy

    Polarbearboy Tokin' Away Since 1968

    Here's my now published comment in the NYT

    "Like several other commenters, cannabis has been an adjunct to my exercise activities for many years. I've been jogging, mountain climbing, snow shoeing, xc skiing and biking stoned for almost fifty years. Yesterday, being the first warmish sunny day with roads cleared of snow and ice, I cleaned up my bike and headed out to the entrance to one of the mountain notches for an hour or so of vigorous up-hill pedaling. Before hopping on the bike, I took two tokes from my vaporizer. What a lovely afternoon for this seventy year old.

    About three years ago I quit smoking pot and turned to vaporization. My lungs are so so grateful. And the reward: I just had the best xc ski season of my retired 70-year-old life, skiing four or five days a week for two or three vigorous hours each day. Always with my vaporizer at hand in an insulated pouch in my daypack. Outdoors in nature, working up a sweat, often with good friends, stoned out of my gourd: This is one of my joys."
     
  10. His_Highness

    His_Highness In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king

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    @Polarbearboy .. Couldn't agree more! I've been living this article for about 20 years as well. Nice to see the corroboration. Have posted several times here alone about "always" getting high before a long run. It's part of my warm up and stretch routine. 15 to 20 minutes into the run when the runner's high kicks in for me ... It's great when the runner's high "melds" with the cannabis high.

    Can't count the number of times I've run at night, got lost in my own head because of the music and melded highs and came out of it without feeling like I actually ran all that time. Sometimes it's like I wake up all that time later on the road leading back into my housing development. Love when that happens.
     
  11. Polarbearboy

    Polarbearboy Tokin' Away Since 1968

    Of the nearly 150 kilometers of trails at the world-class place I ski, among my favorites is a remote 7 mile loop that includes a fairly steep long hill about half-way round the loop. I used to struggle, sweating and out of breath and legs hurting, to herringbone up, sometimes even taking my skis off and walking up. This year I got into such good shape and had such good dope--God Bless coming legalization in two adjacent states!--that I'd find myself nearing the end and trying to remember if I'd even come up the hill yet, coming up the hill was so effortless and my buzz kept the difficulty from even entering consciousness.
     
  12. bleak

    bleak Well-Known Member

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    Anyone in this forum tried microdosing shrooms?

    Slightly off topic, but I've been microdosing the last month or so. Sometimes I feel the effects of the shrooms, like a slight floaty/dreamy feeling. Have been cautious about going mountain biking in this state, because I like high speed and large jumps (I almost broke a rib a few months ago)

    But lately I've felt like I could handle it, have tried it a few times and pretty surprised. After I've been riding for a bit, I can't really feel the shrooms anymore. The experience of riding seems to fill all my senses too 100%, and drowns out the shrooms. Not only that, I'm also meeting or beating personal records on shrooms! (I record my rides with Strava) On both the climbs and the downhills, I'm riding just as fast as usual.

    One if the ideas behind microdosing shrooms is to relax your state of mind. I wonder if this mental state is also helping me get in the zone physically? To me it makes sense. The best athletes all agree on how important the "flow state" is. That place where your mind is quiet and your body is on autopilot. You're not thinking, you're just doing.

    I vaguely remember something about certain types of mushroom being useful for athletes. Anyone know more about this?
     
  13. His_Highness

    His_Highness In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king

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    @bleak - Interesting question. I never thought of using psychedelics unless I'm trying to have a psychedelic experience. Shrooms have caused me to "see things" and it's not something I'd want to happen when I'm working out. My last shrooms experience...I stared at a red light, in a dark room for over an hour as it expanded and contracted. Really enjoyed the trip.

    I get your point though...micro-dosing may allow a psychedelic to be used to heighten the experience without it getting trippy.

    Would love to hear from others who may have tried micro-dosing shrooms or any other psychedelic to increase physical performance.
     
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  14. HellsWindStaff

    HellsWindStaff Dharma Initiate

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    I've microdosed but never in any workout capacity, I actually prefer it as you can keep your head about you a bit :D I could totally see how it could benefit, as any microdose I've ever taken has just given me a a feeling of well being/joy/confidence and no physical/eye limitations. I didn't drive, but I certainly could have no issue.

    Cheers to athlete stoners! I've been bulking since the end of Feb, 6 lbs added so I know there's some fat, but am feeling strong! Gonna cut in a few weeks, for a few weeks

    Was out of town a bit and have been doing 100 pushups, wacky variations too to increase difficulty (inclined, clap, close, backpack of weight on me) my chest definition is nice! Wasn't as good as the gym but my chest looks bigger honestly after my 3 week work break with only pushups.
     
  15. mixchu69

    mixchu69 Well-Known Member

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    Time for me to do some pushups.....i have been mainly into cardio (great stress relief and love vaping before/after)....however, i am losing too much weight and need to put on some mass....can feel that I am much weaker than before
     
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