Aromed 4.0

[Aimless Ryan]

Oddly with mine the biggest hit only happens when i draw really fast instead of the normal slow long hit.

I just learned that about a week ago. I didn't say anything, though, because I thought it might be unique to me and my Aromed (because it just doesn't seem to make sense). Previously, for as long as I've had it, I had mostly taken extremely slow draws; as slow as possible. But now it's very clear to me that faster draws get me better hits.

Also, I have found that it helps to draw very slowly for the first two or three seconds (or until the lightbulb gets bright), then to draw as fast as I want after that.

Yes, I have messed around with the carb holes quite a bit. Now that I realize I get better hits with fast draws, though, I probably won't do that anymore.

 

[Wizsteve]

Sealing up the air leak have help alot the search for a hi temp O Ring begins ......

Put in about 2 grams of this wax oil stuff seemed to work ok temp a bit low took a long time to heat up and melt into the pad so now i just turn unit on when i want a few hits no loading and unloading this thing is good to go for the next week or more lol.

So my next step is to try few other bulbs out with higher heat and find a glass blower to remake the bottom base but with a honey comb bubbler.

 

[Aimless Ryan]

I recently tried a 1 g load, which took several days for me to exhaust. I think I have concluded that although there are some things I like about large loads, there are too many things I don't like about large loads to continue messing around with them.

My biggest problem with large loads is that after the first 10 draws or so I'm basically vaping a mixture of fresh herbs and ABV. Even though it's not totally nasty to do it this way, there is something off-putting about it.

Since dumping the large load yesterday, I have tried several very small loads (0.02-0.04 g). Since I'm so used to thinking about what I don't like about large loads, I feel like it's now easier for me to appreciate small loads.

Regardless, I'm still inclined to think there is something wrong with my Aromed. When I use small loads, my herbs never come out remotely dark, and there is nothing I can do to change that (except by using huge loads, which I don't want to do anymore).

I would like to be able to use small loads. If my Aromed worked how it's supposed to work, I wouldn't have a problem with small loads.

I've been trying to avoid this, but I think I'm going to have to return/exchange my Aromed. Really not looking forward to figuring out how to do that (or paying for shipping that shouldn't be necessary).

 

[Wizsteve]

No longer use mine for herb I use my pax or volcano instead still looking for a good whip one but this isn't it not for herb .I like dense vapor even on max vapor just not there however it is burning...(black ABV )

However seems to do well for oils and waxes .Its the only vape with heat at the top so no worries about melting into coils.

I think Magic Glass is using cheap thinner glass than they should. So the heat just passes thru glass instead of retaining it should really reflect.

I would call them ask for a RMA and from there good luck they may want to repair your unit or have you deal with it yourself if bought from a 3rd party.

 

[VapeKnight]

I really feel sorry for those of you who seem to be having trouble with your units. Maybe I have an older model or just lucky enough to have one that works properly, but mine is amazing ! anyone who has tried it has been equally impressed. I hope you guys can resolve the issues you are having and then enjoy this wonderful vape.

 

[Aimless Ryan]

I just keep wondering if the color of my ABV tells me a lot less than I feel like it should tell me. Because as I have shown earlier in this thread, my Aromed ABV usually does not get very dark; even if I spend half an hour or longer pulling frequently enough that the air I inhale from the whip is very warm. (However, herbs do get dark when I use large loads.)

One thing I just started thinking about doing is measuring out a week's worth of herbs x 2, then using each of my vapes (Aromed & Air) exclusively for a week. If I end up going through considerably more herbs with either vape (compared to the other vape), then I will know something I don't currently know.

Something I've been doing lately is taking quite a few dry hits before loading my herbs, to create some thermal mass out of the herb holder. Even when I do this, there's very little visible vapor, the ABV comes out relatively green, and I tend to get no vapor after I transfer the ABV to my Air.

I guess the main reason why I wonder if ABV color may mean less than I thought it means is because relatively green ABV from my Aromed doesn't seem to do anything when I transfer it to my Air. Nevertheless, it comes out of the Air darker than when it got there.

 

[milKmArsh]

I got an AroMed about 6 weeks ago. First vape I had used and thought it was pretty good. Reduced the amount I smoked by 3/4 almost straight away.

The only problem was it ages to use. I can smoke two cones in 1 minute. To do that in the aromed took 10 - 15 mins. I found I had to draw on it for 4,5 long slow breaths before any decent vapor was produced. Once it was it seemed to produce heaps. But if I stopped for a few minutes I back to where I started. The time it was taking was a pain and I started smoking more cones (bowls) just to save time.

I realised I wanted something portable, suddenly being tied to a power point seemed ridiculous in this day and age. All the research I did kept leading me to the Mighty. So three weeks after buying an aromed with all replacement glass pieces I bought the Mighty.
Freaking hell!! Wish I had of bought this first! It is awesome.

The aromed suits me for lazing around on the sofa, watching a movie or something. I think the flavour and control of temp it gives is great and happy to have it my small collection.

Enjoy (oh, I find @Aimless Ryan, that filling the herb chamber half way between the screen and the bottom of the screen was a good amount. Not packed tight. But in there neatly)

Peace

 

[VapeKnight]

My experience with the Aromed seems to be unique lately. I have had mine for several years with no issues what so ever... I plug it in, fill it with any random amount, choose a temp ( usually around 370 ), wait 45 seconds and vape. My extraction is easy and complete. I have tried to revape my ABV in my herbalaire , which I consider to have amazing extraction, with almost no THC effects remaining.

 

[Aimless Ryan]

(oh, I find @Aimless Ryan, that filling the herb chamber half way between the screen and the bottom of the screen was a good amount.

Did you mean the bottom of the C (in "Magic")?

If so, that's actually about what I've been doing (0.2 g) since my last post. I think I'm getting better results that way, but I still don't feel like I'm getting good results. When I used the Aromed pretty exclusively for a couple days (the two days prior to yesterday, I think), it seems like my consumption went up. But then yesterday, when I used my Air almost exclusively, it appears that my consumption went way down.

I still have more experimenting to do before I fully come to that conclusion, but it looks like that will be the pretty clear conclusion. I really hope my problem is that I got a defective unit, because right now I feel like all that money I paid for my Aromed is money I simply threw away. Which I don't have the luxury of being able to do.

 

[milKmArsh]

Yeah, that didn't make much sense... Exactly the bottom of the 'C' in magic.....
So I would say that's about 0.2g/2 cones.

Similar to how there are different methods of smoking which different people enjoy; joints, bongs, pipes, buckets etc, different vapes suit different people. It just sucks one has to spend hundreds of dollars to try them. For me there are no shops where you can even look at the device let alone try.

Hope you find the results you like. I have come to find multiple devices including a trusty old throw away bong is my best option. Luckily I grow my own product which helps justify forking out the $500 for these contraptions.

 

[Aimless Ryan]

Yesterday I read the Aromed reviews on VaporNation. One of the reviewers had some of the same issues I've had with my Aromed. This reviewer seems to have fixed the problem by doing one of the things I have considered, but in a different way.

The reviewer used a small piece of copper pipe to lift the screen. Can't believe I never thought of that.

I think this would probably be the easiest and most stable way for me to lift my herbs closer to the light. All I have to do is get my hands on a few short (varying) lengths of, say, 10 mm diameter pipe, and maybe some extra Aromed screens.

Since I have limited mobility and no tools, I don't know if it would be possible for me to acquire or produce something like this. Does anyone know if this is something a hardware store might be able to do for me?

If you have any ideas you think might help me with this, please share. Thanks.

 

[VapeKnight]

home depot sells a surprising amount of spacers and washers. you could always stack several stainless steel washers together. this would allow you to vary the height to your preference and keep the same distance from the bulb to herb with different load sizes. if you depress the screen into the center of the washers to create a slight cone shape it will center the herb for a more even abv. larger loads may require some stirring . good luck

 

[Aimless Ryan]

Good ideas and information. Thanks.

One of the reasons why I want to be able to raise my screen is so I can use very small loads (0.03-0.05 g). I really don't want to use larger loads anymore.

This is unrelated, but I decided to do an experiment today. Hours ago, with the lightbulb placed snuggly within the herb holder, I turned on my Aromed and timed how long it took for the little light to blink, indicating it's ready to go. 1:38.

I just did that again, but without the herb holder. 1:27.

This suggests to me that the physical location of the temperature measurement is within the lightbulb housing. That is, the sensor does not measure the temperature of the area near the herbs.

 

[milKmArsh]

...As for spacers... if you could find a nice simple glass ring (for a finger) would look nice in the herb holder too.
I never understood the temp thing. I think it's more a calculation of some sorts. Don't know what exactly.

 

[Stu]

This suggests to me that me the physical location of the temperature measurement is within the lightbulb housing. That is, the sensor does not measure the temperature of the area near the herbs.

I don't have an Aromed, but I remember analyzing one a few years ago and IIRC the sensor is indeed located in the bulb housing.

 

[Aimless Ryan]

I'm pretty sure it's well known that the sensor is located within the lightbulb housing, but I'm also pretty sure it has been said here that the sensor senses the temperature of the screen area (as opposed to sensing the temperature inside the lightbulb housing).

Well, when there is no screen below the lightbulb, and no herb holder encasing the bulb, the Aromed still reaches temperature, according to the blinking light. And it does it in less time than when there is a screen enclosed within a piece of glass that functions as a tiny oven.

I know nothing about electronics or if there is some kind of electronic gadget that could be located within the housing but detect the temperature of the screen. Unless an IR thermometer can do that. But from what I remember reading, it's not an IR thermometer.

Here's my IR thermometer in action. Somewhere in that fire is a red dot (laser). Since I can't see it, I'm guessing it's somewhere between the two flames. I am about 10 feet from the fire.

I don't know how this thing works, but I know it does work. And if there was one of these aimed straight down from the area of the lightbulb, it could tell the exact temperature of the first thing in the laser's path. However, I have no idea if an IR thermometer could be made to work with something like the Aromed.

Keep in mind, the actual thermometer is much smaller than what you see in my hand.

 

[Aimless Ryan]

Something I wanted to say a day or two ago is that I think I may have finally figured out how to make my Aromed do what it's supposed to do, without any modifications. That is, all of a sudden I am able to turn a pinch of herbs brown in my Aromed within a couple minutes. Not dark brown, but brown nonetheless. I've never been able to do that before the last couple days.

Even though I was already taking slow draws most of the time--sometimes ridiculously slow--it seems like drawing slowly is the main reason for why I am now getting better results. I don't know if I'm getting the same results other people get, but I'm getting better results. Not necessarily good enough results to abandon my screen-raising plans, though. (I will not abandon that idea until I accidentally combust, which has never happened.)

Also, it occurred to me last night to try my Aromed with the lightbulb cover/housing removed. (Is there a better word for that thing?) I figured the lightbulb cover was mainly to provide a barrier around the light, to keep from ruining eyes, and I figured removing this piece might create a little more heat. However, I learned pretty quickly that removing the cover does not help vaporize herbs. All it does is allow the heat to radiate in all directions instead of staying contained within the cylinder and herb holder. After learning this, it occurred to me that the thin piece of metal wrapped around the inside of the lightbulb cover is used not only to keep people's eyes safe from the bright light but also to reflect the heat, to keep heat contained within the cylinder.

I do something very similar with my baking stone and aluminum foil whenever I bake a pizza on the grill. Since gas grills have so much intense bottom heat (too much for pizza), and very little top heat, I cover the bottom of my stone with aluminum foil when I use it in a grill, which reflects much of the intense heat back away from the stone. If I don't do this, the stone heats up to probably 800°, which is way too hot, especially because the top heat in the grill is probably a couple hundred degrees lower. When I do this, the stone remains in the neighborhood of 600° to 650°.

Man, I love how many similarities there are between vaping and baking pizza.

 

[VapeKnight]

I'm surprised that your unit takes approx 1 1/2 min. to heat up, mine only takes 45 sec

 

[Aimless Ryan]

Also, I only used about 0.25 g yesterday. My average daily usage is somewhere between 0.40 g and 0.45 g. I'm pretty sure I used each of my two vapes equally yesterday.

I feel like my sudden one-day decrease in consumption can be explained partly by the fact that I'm using smaller loads than I have historically, with both vapes. But I think it's also because I was able to make my Aromed work pretty much how it's supposed to work yesterday. I hope so.

 

[Aimless Ryan]

I feel like I have learned a ton over the last few days regarding how to use the Aromed effectively, beginning with the fact that it seems I can now get good results with very small loads. (I'm still not completely sure I've made any progress, though.)

Now that every load lasts me only one session, I have begun preheating the herb holder before each session by turning on the Aromed and taking some draws through an empty herb holder. Once the glass is nice and hot, I add my herbs and begin the session. This way I don't have to worry about the glass absorbing heat I want for my herbs (because the herb holder is already hot when I put my herbs in it).

Since I don't remember reading about anyone else doing it this way, here's why I started doing it: I don't want my herbs to be preheated. I'm pretty sure it doesn't do my herbs any good to sit in a preheating oven for a couple minutes, then for the herbs to remain in the preheating oven during at least three fruitless draws.

To me that's just like trying to bake a pizza on a cold stone, in a preheating oven. If you do that, you'll end up with an edible pizza, but it probably won't be very good. If you want to end up with a much better pizza, you put the stone in the oven, then preheat the oven, then leave the oven at full baking temperature for about an hour before you even start baking the pizza. That way, the pizza will start baking as soon as you put it in the oven.

Baking cannabis may not be the same thing as baking pizza, but I feel like it's close enough for me to use this analogy, at least within my own mind.

I guess the reason why I never thought about this stuff before is because each load prior to a few days ago lasted me multiple sessions.

If anyone disagrees with anything I just said, or if anyone wants to play devil's advocate, please do. I realize I am still very new at this, and that I still have a ton to learn.

 

[Stu]

This way I don't have to worry about the glass absorbing heat I want for my herbs (because the herb holder is already hot when I put my herbs in it).

Looks like you figured out a very important key here. This is also true with all other vaporizers, not just the Aromed. If your heating chamber is not up to temperature, the initial heat energy will get allocated to heating up the chamber as it has a higher thermal mass than the herb. Once the herb's surroundings are up to temp, then vapor is readily liberated and happiness ensues.

 

[Aimless Ryan]

This is also true with all other vaporizers, not just the Aromed.

Yeah, I started doing that with my Air, too, as well as using tiny loads. First I let it heat up with an empty stem attached. Once the LED indicates that it's ready to go, I take a couple draws to heat up the stem real good, then I load the herbs; sometimes only a few grounds. I think it's a lot easier to see results with the Air than it is with the Aromed.

Using tiny loads seems to have decreased my daily dosage considerably. I hope that trend continues.

 

[Aimless Ryan]

I forget who said their herb holder/filter connection is fused together, but I have an idea I think will help you separate them very easily. The reason why I haven't shared this before now is because I figured you had already tried everything. However, after reading a thread that began yesterday, regarding essentially the same thing, it has become evident to me that apparently most people never think of this prospective easy solution.

Here's what you need: a piece of rubber/latex.

1. Put the piece of rubber on your herb holder.
2. Grab it with all your fingers wrapped around the herb holder and latex.
3. The two pieces of glass probably came apart before you even tried anything else, so I'm not going to list any more steps.

 

[Aimless Ryan]

I finally figured out how to make a functional riser for my screen. All it took was a little flour and water. As a result, I just turned a load of only a few grounds--maybe 0.01 g--very dark.

 

[lwien]

Looks like you figured out a very important key here. This is also true with all other vaporizers, not just the Aromed. If your heating chamber is not up to temperature, the initial heat energy will get allocated to heating up the chamber as it has a higher thermal mass than the herb. Once the herb's surroundings are up to temp, then vapor is readily liberated and happiness ensues.

Yup. This has been my experience with my MV as well. Gotta take a few draws before things really begin to happen.