Discussion in 'Plug-in Vaporizers' started by hazy, Jun 8, 2012.
I'd vote Pod - though it might get confused with PD.
its hazy's thread.
I figured no-one wants to listen to the story of my road to rack and ruin.
Glad you caught it tho, I guess you got a glimpse into exactly why I have a kitty on my head- lolz
(yep, I knew it was there all along, who do you think put it there??)
I feel you mate... Being like this for about two years now and I don't think I m going back... Freedom is just too sweet!!!
I'd go with "The Pod" myself... My two cents.
I guess nobody new has joined me yet?
I just kept playing with this thing and could not put it down last night. The fun part is that I still have used only about a gram doing bowl after bowl
Is there another size glass with a thinner inner diameter perhaps, Hazy, or is this HS as thin as they come? I would like to try an even (slightly) narrower bowl to conserve a bit more even.
Just another observation I made so far, other testers please compare notes when you can:
-The Pod doesn't seem to retain heat as well as the logs with metal cores ime. I think it's more then enough for the average user, but people with huge lungs like SliM or people with huge 18" bongs might not find it satisfactory enough. The metal mass in the more traditional logs does seems to do a lot for the temperature and performance in terms of heat retention. I do always chase the densest clouds though, if that's not your goal you could probably stretch a hit out a bit longer than I do.
-There's also a plus to that, it takes The Pod much less time to do temperature adjustments for instance, and I haven't measured it yet but I think it's safe to assume that heat up time is also much less.
edit: still haven't bought a new card-reader yet, so here are two crummy webcam-vids under very bad lighting. Please note there's no stirring in between the hits in the first vid like I normally do, so the second hit is slightly less denser than the first one:
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So I just walked through the door (6:58 pm PST) after a long day and guess what's waiting for me all the way from AU? That's right and tomorrow's Friday. Oh yeah.
Damn! It reached the US before Europe?
Over here everything is half a world away
Fred, stop drinking, we need more vids!
What's up with those new artsy fartsy cigarette packages in Oz btw? Seems like they are turning them in to collectibles over there
I'm getting to know my Pod better and better. With a little packing and slower draws I can get my ABV where I want it to be at 13,2V now, but I'm hoping to take it down a bit more even for longevity of the heating element.
HS stem with a finer screen and jammed in to a 18 to 14mm reducer is still my fav. I do the screen-sliding-shuffle too btw, it turns out to be very convenient being able to make the bowl shrink with the load size as it gets depleted more and more throughout a session.
The Pod also works great with hash, I just put a few chunks on a pressed bed of herb and get delicious hit after hit.
My habit right now is to just leave it on at 9V all day and turn it up whenever I want to hit it. Usually the time it takes to fill a bowl and fetch a drink is enough to let it get to working temperature that way.
So far it's still a winner imo. I haven't even used my other vapes yesterday, I think The Pod will be my daily driver for a while at least
Still no card-reader, but I managed to use my phone as one so I can finally show some pics. They're not much due to again bad lighting, but that's just what we have to make do with over here this time a year I'm afraid. I actually saw my Pod at daylight for the first time today
I threw in the Solo as well for size comparison.
Glad to see some pictures and videos emerging. The Pod is pretty awesome looking, love how different it is from all the other vapes. Looks like it is just slighter fatter then the HI which is fine by me, I love the size of my HI.
I really cant wait to use the vvps on my other log vapes too. I hope I can get more milk then the video OhTheAgony posted. I really like white walling my glass when I vape. I go for more of a taste hit when I am doing direct draw.
My videos really don't do it justice Gvape. Besides the shitty lighting my bubbler doesn't have a very large inner diameter, so it's kinda hard to make it completely unsee-through with vapor. But The Pod does a great job nevertheless if you could have just seen it irl. I really need some afternoon sunlight for a good vape vid, but it might be a few weeks before we get some of that again here
I am sure it won't disappointed you though. I thought I got pretty good at whitewalling a piece with my HI, but the Pod actually does an even better job once mastered. It also goes trough the bowl a bit faster in result, but well, I guess that just depends on where your priorities are at
I can try a video with my bong instead tomorrow, if we can get a bit of daylight at least. It does a much better job making the vapor visible than my bubbler.
So far I have t even had a chance to plug it in but I'll be home in a few hours I'll have some pics up tonight. But won't be plugging it in until tomorrow. This needs my full attention not just what I can squeeze in between paying attention to everyone else when I get home.
OTA, glad you're getting it figured out Thanks for the pics, now I can see that the UD actually is a little larger than the pod.
I've found that experimenting with the quantity and way that I pack the bowl has had more influence on vapour production than anything else; that's my experience with direct draw anyway. The HS/DDS inner diameter is the smallest I can get. I've been using the DDS quite a lot but I've also found that I can get good results with similar small quantities in the DDM by packing it properly.
Feel free to use whatever voltage you like, as the heating element is easily replaceable. You will probably need something like needle nose pliers to start unscrewing the element, but you should be able to mostly unscrew it by hand. Be careful with the pliers though, they easily slip off the power socket and can scratch it. You might be able to use a bit of cloth to help avoid this.
To everyone who I haven't contacted yet, I apologise, I've had a bit of a slow week and there have been a number of distractions. I'm really keen to get these pods off my desk so you should hear from me soon.
As far as naming goes, I've found myself just calling it "the pod" as it seems easiest.
More Pod Pics~
CRZ, Pod and Pepsi
Got my Pod in the mail yesterday (thanks Hazy!) but haven't been able to really do anything with it until tonight. I'll try to get some pics up soon--but pics don't do these things justice, imho. These pods are definitely functional art.
I haven't yet cooked off all of the hemp oil smell to be able to give it a full test, but I couldn't stop myself from using the Pod a little anyway. Quick bottom-line review: the Pod "does what it's supposed to do".
The glass stems are pretty cool. I agree with others that the DDS is a good size (and smaller ID might be interesting to try too, if that ever became available). I like that you can clearly see the load in the end of the glass stem--makes it easy to see how dark it's getting. The only suggestion I have for the glass stems is maybe make the DD stems a bit longer? Maybe another inch or two? The GG is awesome too--fits great in an 18->reducer to drop into a bubbler.
I think I see what OTA means about the effect of not having a steel washer heatsink (compared to most other logs). I've used a PD, CRZ, and UD before, which all have a heatsink. I've never used a HI though, so I'm new to the no-heatsink log methods. I'll have to do more experimenting.
And it's a small thing, but I'm also really liking the power cable that Hazy sent me to connect the Pod to my variable power supply. I would have chosen a black cable over this clear/copper one if I were just going by a picture, but I actually really like this one. It's much softer and more flexible than the standard black cables you usually see on power supplies, which makes it easier to deal with, imo.
More later, but my initial review is an A+. Great job Hazy!
Just a heads up on the power cable, I managed to melt mine a bit the other day, leaving the pod upside down on my bub at 13.5v.
I'm not sure exactly why, but basically the metal base of the plug heated up and melted through one of the insulating wires, so it was shorting.
It's probably a one off, but something to look out for. (I already mentioned it to hazy in a PM)
I'll try to record a quick vid of the pod in action tonight
If anyone is interested, I've got a 0.01g scale (and a 0.001g scale, but its pretty fiddly) so I can weigh out the load too
Wow its really nice to see all these pics and to see what an amazing piece of art the pod is! I am so looking forward to mine you all!
Woot, more Podders
Oh cool, thanks. Actually, I think I can just swap the heating element between the HP and HI if the length would be corresponding as well, right?
Will you be selling ready-to-screw-in-heating-elements, and how much will they cost?
Alan sends a little tool with the HI to unscrew the plug & heating element btw, I just checked and it works with the Pod too. He makes them himself out of a simple piece of metal tubing, perhaps it's something you want to have a look at as well:
The DDM has the same inner diameter as the GonG, right?
I've got a Gnome too this week and it seems that one of the pieces it's made off is made out of a piece of glass tubing with an even smaller ID than the HS. I tried pairing it up with the Pod but that didn't really work. I'm not sure if it doesn't seal as well because of how it's cut, or that it's simply because the outer diameter is too small. I'll have a chat with Calen about what else he's got though, perhaps he does have something that can be used as a HXXS.
Uhm, what else..?
Oh yeah, how would I replace the inner glass tube if it's broken, does the bottom need to be cut out and re-glued in in that event? And did you stick with the glue for the bottom btw, or did you switch to silicon like you were considering a while back (I just re-read this thread the other day, lol).
Also how is the inner glass tube and silicon sleeve connected to the Pod, is it just held by friction or is there some sort of adhesive in there as well?
I have a different kind of angled plugs btw, mine have a little metal base plate. Perhaps they would be more heat resistant than the ones you use now, or perhaps they're even more prone to absorbing heat, idk. I'll have to see if they fit the Pod first, but if they do and mine craps out too like Fred his then I'll continue testing with one of those ok?
Just let me know if you want the ebay link btw, Hazy.
edit: I just re-read Fred's post, seems his cord already came with one of those plugs with the metal base that I have here. My Pod came with a black cord with a smaller plastic angled plug on it, I assume it's a different one than Fred got?
I think that's it for now, although I do have one small request...
...do you think it would perhaps be possible to put a little orange light bulb inside the Pod, so the light shines through the holes & heater port..? I think that would be really awesome, lol. I believe LEDs don't handle heat very well hence the light bulb (something tiny like they use in digital watches perhaps?), but if there are any heat resistant LEDs one of those color changing ones would be awesome imo, with a little switch on the bottom of the Pod so the user can choose his/her fav color
Hoorayyy, another crummy webcam video
14mm GonG stem through a 250ml Ehle, approx a 0,1 gram load:
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I agree with you placetime about the power cable. When I first ordered this type of cable I thought it was a bit of a gimmick, but then after seeing it plugged into the pod I realised that they went well together. As Fred mentioned, he's had a problem with the insulation melting so please make a note of that. I'm using a new supplier and the cables aren't like the ones that I've been using for a few months. I will continue to look around for other sources and see if I can find better quality. Note that I've only sent this type of cable to those who are using tattoo power supplies. Everyone else gets a black extension cord (which doesn't look too bad either!) that they can plug any log vape power supply into. I haven't had any problems with the black cords.
Placetime, you also mentioned that you'd prefer a longer stem. I think that would help in terms of smoothness, but I'd be kind of worried about the tall stem wobbling around in the top of the pod. Also, from a manufacturing perspective, the current length is ideal, as I can cut the GG and DDM from one piece of glass (so to answer your question OTA, they have the same diameters). I'm thinking of only offering these two stem types to keep the product range simple. The various shapes and sizes of stems are really only for the benefit of the beta testing.
Thanks OTA, I've seen Alan's heating element removal tool but I didn't want to copy everything he has done It's not so bad using the pliers to get you started. The heating element in the pod is shorter than in the HI, because I've wrapped the wire around the resistor. The idea with this is to help centre the resistor in the heater tube. Whether it makes any difference or not... ? You could call it my little twist on things I have tried a "full-length" element and that seems to work just as well (the one from the HI should be like this). However, the resistor then comes very close to the wood inside the top of the pod, so keep an eye out for charring. It would be interesting to see whether you think it affects performance, as the resistor would be about 5mm closer to the bowl than it is currently.
I ended up sticking with the glue (haha) rather than using the silicone. I found it looks neater and is easier to work with. There is actually no real need to remove the bottom wood. All you need to do is remove the heating element, then you can poke a dowel through the hole and push the heater tube/silicone ring out through the top of the pod. The glass and silicone are held together by friction, however after a while the silicone adheres to the glass due to the heat. This means that the glass and silicone will pop out as one piece, and you may need to tear the silicone off the glass and replace it. It's not as messy as it sounds, the silicone scrapes off easily with a knife. I will be offering a full range of replacement parts once I get the website operational.
Nice idea about the light. It's something I had dreamt of doing but I think I'm asking for trouble given the heat. I did make a screw in LED to replace the heating element and turn the pod into a decorative lamp.
That would be awesome! "Oh that? It's my meditation lamp"
Pics and vids in a few hours.
Thanks for the thorough reply Hazy
I am a little bummed about the no-go on the light though Perhaps -if you ever decide to do a contest- you can make one of those Pod-lights like a second or third price?
I think I'm getting denser clouds with my HS stem:
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If you do decide to cancel these please save me a couple of them, Hazy. I'm not too worried about breaking mine, but it is glass after all so you never know...and I do tend to loose small stuff occasionally
I was playing around with my glass UD stem for a bit btw. It wasn't cut straight so it didn't seal with the Pod, but I managed to find a work around with an extra piece of silicon. Unfortunately the inner diameter was so small I couldn't get a screen secured, but I may have another go at it later on.
To make the glass stems longer, you could always hook up a non-diffused GonG downstem to the GG-stem. Might take a trip to the local head shop, but I managed to find one for using my VXC Cloud dry.
Ok using my Pod for the first time. Firstly it looks very nice, as someone said the pics do not do it justice. It's so interesting looking I'm glad to have it out on my desk. I'm not sure which cord I have but as you can see in the above picture it's clear coated, and it has a black plastic right angle plug. I don't expect any problems but if I had to replace it I could do so at my local small electronics store and I'm in favor of that. The Pod itself is very light weight, but I have not concerns about it as its strong as any other wood. So yeah over all the pod looks like a good choice for a log vape.
I started out my first stem set at 12v and wasn't able to get any visible vapor nor flavor. I had the same results at 12.5v , once I got up to 13v I started to get the first signs of vapor and flavor, at 13.5v I found what I'd call the light cloud zone where there was definite flavor, some vapor and I could feel the effects. The ABV at that point was kind of a light gold/green. At 13.75v it is giving much better clouds and the ABV is coming out a dark brown. I did notice that there is a hot spot as one side of the ABV is darkening before the other, and I'm going to write that off as learning curves as this is my very first time using it. I'll have more to say late as I am certainly feeling the effects of using the Pod. But I'll leave you with this video.
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Interesting that we landed on about the same voltage too initially.
Can you tell us if the vapor got less dense at the end of the hit because you let false air in or the weed was spend, or that you ran out of heat, Newvape?
Yours seems yellow-ish btw, oppose to my brown-red one. Is there so much color difference or is it a matter of lighting mostly?
I think that 13.75 might be a little hot, I might end up around 13.65 or so. The Pod is a medium to dark brown in color I think it's just because I'm lighting it with a desk lamp.
Not sure why the vapor got less dense there. I didn't notice until I uploaded the vid to my computer. I'm sure I'll get a better feel for it in the next few days. Might have just been my draw speed. it's a lot less restricted then my other log vapes.
Ah gotcha, I thought that was the case at first with the pictures, but then it seemed yellow in the video too so I figured I'd ask.
Yeah, I'm down to about 13,6 to 13,6 for the medium diameter stem and 13,2 to 13,3 for my smaller stem now. I can get good results at 12,5V as well with my HS stem, but only for the first two hits or so and then it gets thinner quick.
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