The Mighty/Mighty+ by Storz & Bickel

Caelar900

Caelar900

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vapviking said:
I'm starting to think there's something to the idea that they allow a little more convection, and less conduction. Not sure how that can be confirmed,
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If anyone on here has one of those laser thermometers (like this one), then you could check the temp of the heater wall at a set temp and then check the temp of the wall of a capsule at the same temp. If the capsule isn't as hot then there is more convection going on! If I had to guess though I would say that their might actually be a bit more conduction going on.... I know I know gasps all around. But it seems that the two metal surfaces would play of each other and let more heat be trapped in the chamber than before. I am no expert on the subject though. Just a guess. If anyone has one of those thermometers and can check, that would be awesome!
 
vapviking

vapviking

Old & In the Way
Caelar900 said:
If anyone on here has one of those laser thermometers (like this one), then you could check the temp of the heater wall at a set temp and then check the temp of the wall of a capsule at the same temp. If the capsule isn't as hot then there is more convection going on! If I had to guess though I would say that their might actually be a bit more conduction going on.... I know I know gasps all around. But it seems that the two metal surfaces would play of each other and let more heat be trapped in the chamber than before. I am no expert on the subject though. Just a guess. If anyone has one of those thermometers and can check, that would be awesome!
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Gotta be more complicated than that. The caps and the chamber wall are both aluminum and conduct heat extremely well, so there surely is conduction still going on. Idk about heat being trapped, since air is passing by and aluminum cools so quickly. But there must be a lot of other factors, like the air space between the two. Is that working partially as an insulator between them? Is the space allowing some vaporless air to pass thru the chamber and what would be the result? Maybe a perception of a cooler experience?

My abv is very uniform coming out of the caps, idk if this indicates 'vec' or 'duc' (ha!) and you may very well be correct. But,
da-da da-da-da, I'm lovin' them!
 
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Pyr0

Stoned Roses
Pyr0 said:
I used a crafty CU for my muzzmod and left part of the bottom of the CU attached as a tab for holding/turning. I'll try to remember to post a pic when i get home this evening
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I hate to reply to myself lol, but here's my muzzmod:
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not the neatest job, but it hasn't come apart yet :p
 
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radiant34

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vapviking said:
They are telling you that you have a 'free' option, which means they'll replace the housing at minimum. Apparently they see battery weakness and are suggesting not only that those be replaced, but maybe some cleaning, as you had mentioned earlier that you didn't bother to clean it before sending it in. From what I've read here, folks who send in dirty units are often on the path to less-than-optimal response from service.


This is not accurate. You refused to pay and got something; a working unit back in the mail. S&B does not owe anyone 'new' replacements. They are essentially only obligated to give you a functional unit through the warranty period, assuming no abuse of course.


So, you refused to pay and they 'fixed what they had to'. Sounds like you have a functional vape.


I've also enjoyed great cs from this company, through 3 warranty claims; even ponied up for a battery once, but I'm still on the same warranty ride and loving my Crafty-now-Mighty.

Sorry bout the muzzmod, though at least I can feel less lonely, as I've only really seen one other member (now you also) reporting the glue failure besides me (2x, after lots of high temp use). In my opinion as an experienced cabinet maker, yes the torque is a factor, along with the different rates of expansion/contraction during wild heat swings that the glass, epoxy and 'plastic' that comprise the mod are subject to. Perhaps this is an item that should only be installed/removed when completely cool, this would put less stress on it.
I'll add that I don't feel any health risk from this 'glue failure'; it remains inert, just a little separated from the glass. I'm back to simply attaching a tube to the Mighty mouthpiece. The water piece stays a little cleaner longer...
...AND the dosing caps, while they have nothing to do with the muzzmod topic, seem to boost the experience, so that's a new treat. I'm starting to think there's something to the idea that they allow a little more convection, and less conduction. Not sure how that can be confirmed, but I'm liking the taste and vape quality! The sessions seem to have a more definite ending and don't devolve into those few non-tasty hits.
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But originally they were going to charge me 60 dollars for wear and tear, but they didnt after i had provided previous invoice. I don't understand how you completely miss their malpractice. but oh-well.

Hotz said:
@nb8475 and @radiant34

you guys are having problems with USA or germany S&B?

I heard that the German is more helpful, I am thinking of sending my phone to them and then request delivery in the US
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USA, Germany has great customer service from what i hear, but germany has better consumer protection laws.
 
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nb8475

nb8475

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@biohacker That's what I thought but apparently not. That's why I'm so pissed. They replied to me about half hour ago saying

"We will repair your device, but it may need servicing again in the future.

Our Warranty dose not cover failures do to wear and tear. "


I already sent back a lengthly message saying how battery being exposes etc is not wear and tear.


@vapviking it must be because of that then, my unit was pretty dirty from a year and a half of use.
 
vapviking

vapviking

Old & In the Way
radiant34 said:
But originally they were going to charge me 60 dollars for wear and tear, but they didnt after i had provided previous invoice. I don't understand how you completely miss their malpractice. but oh-well.

USA, Germany has great customer service from what i hear, but germany has better consumer protection laws.
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The part of my post you are quoting and responding to was written to another member, not to you. Sorry for confusion, see above.

nb8475 said:
@biohacker That's what I thought but apparently not. That's why I'm so pissed. They replied to me about half hour ago saying

"We will repair your device, but it may need servicing again in the future.

Our Warranty dose not cover failures do to wear and tear. "


I already sent back a lengthly message saying how battery being exposes etc is not wear and tear.


@vapviking it must be because of that then, my unit was pretty dirty from a year and a half of use.
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You had the casing that was so open you could see the battery inside, right? well, crap, that alone should yield a free replacement; I think they took a chance at recouping something on the battery. After all, you did use it and it may be nearing its' end. However, your reasonable protest may yet bring a reasonable resolution.

From what I've read, I think I'd just ask them to fix the warranty items for now. It's your first claim, when others (me!) have had multiple new units! They may just soften enough and do the right thing. If not, you'll at least have a functional unit back. Soon you'll be out of 2yr warranty anyway and maybe you can replace your own battery, if you are so inclined.
Best of luck!
 
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radiant34

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That is what I will be doing with my unit once warranty flops. I cannot believe they charge 120 dollars for batteries/labor to clip 2 batteries in
 
nb8475

nb8475

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vapviking said:
The part of my post you are quoting and responding to was written to another member, not to you. Sorry for confusion, see above.

Best of luck!
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Cheers. Yes the battery was showing (it's white by the way). But I snapped it back together and every since it stayed put. But it's obviously weak. I have contacted VaporNation, the distributor from which i purchased the mighty, and told them the situation. They said they are going to speak with their contact at S&B.

Also, does nobody answer the motherfucking phone at S&B? I want to reach through the phone and strangle this automated voice.
 
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mitchgo61

mitchgo61

I go where the thrills are
Eatrocks said:
If u want more convection properties...pack a full bowl without tamping down.
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Although, IMO, it's the voodoo mixture of conduction and convection that makes the Mighty precisely so effective and amazing. I wouldn't wanna lessen the proportion of either side of this near-magical hybrid equation....the Mighty manages to deliver the best of both conduction (big hits, even, no-stir cooking, thorough extraction) and convection (great flavor) with none of the downsides of either.
 
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Eatrocks

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mitchgo61 said:
Although, IMO, it's the voodoo mixture of conduction and convection that makes the Mighty precisely so effective and amazing. I wouldn't wanna lessen the proportion of either side of this near-magical hybrid equation....the Mighty manages to deliver the best of both conduction (big hits, even, no-stir cooking, thorough extraction) and convection (great flavor) with none of the downsides of either.
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Ye i agree Storz dialed it in just right. I don't think it's built for longevity but the experience. Think of these like Iphones...and most people get a new one every 2 years.
 
nb8475

nb8475

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Just got an automated email from Fedex about a shipping label from S&B, but I haven't heard back from S&B yet. Says the package weight is 3 lbs. Does anyone have the weight of a new mighty box for reference?


Edit: My last message to them in case anyones interested
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Hi,

I received a notification from Fedex but haven't heard from you.

To summarize why I should qualify for a replacement...

1) I'm within the two year warranty period, and have never ONCE filed a claim. Not ONCE since Nov 2014.

2) Mine has defects covered by the warranty. The housing SPLITS and BREAKS, exposing battery, as well as a ERR004. Additonally the housing is chipped all over the place.

3)These problems were ACKNOWLEDGED with the updated Mighty with reinforced housing, released mid 2015. Many member with chipped/cracked housings received these new models.

This should be CUT and DRY. This is a TEXTBOOK warranty issues.

More than anything, I am disappointed that I am being treated like a second-class citizen. All I hear is glowing reviews about your Customer Service, people getting their cracked units replaced, etc. So I'm not mad, just disillusioned that the company I held in such high esteem is not treating their customers right

I want to be yet another one of those voices and continue to support S&B and vouch for them, but that depends on the outcome of this case.

Thank you"
 
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mrbonsai420

mrbonsai420

Accessory Maker
Accessory Maker
mitchgo61 said:
As Slow Draw says, apples and oranges are tough to compare. Most diets require both. :p

Mighty: easy, automatic, very good flavor, very session-based, perfect for more than person, unrestricted draw. Ugly, plastic, pain in the ass to clean. Bit of a weed hog thanks to conduction, not all that portable or stealthy. Amazing vape, but not for all applications.

FF2: easier than FF1, but still manual, requires intervention. Unparalleled flavor, great for small loads and single-use, somewhat restricted draw, extremely conservative, no waste whatsoever. Dead easy to clean, takes 1/10th of the time to maintain over the Mighty. Perhaps the most beautiful and sleek portable on the market. More portable by far than the Mighty. Again, amazing vape, but not for all applications.

Choice between the two? Good luck. :lol: I wouldn't live without either.
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I agree, Currently I use 5 devices almost everyday and sometimes throw in a 6th or 7th for fun! The Evo and Enail w/Liger do it at home for the most part with Daisy jumping in for fun.
And in my vape case everyday there is a Mighty, a Milaana, and a Vapman. If I am going to a concert or something sometimes I will grab the Haze and 8 pre-loaded cans and replaceable batteries. But that's only because I don't have the Mighty pods yet I bet!

When my friends and sister ask why I need so many vapes, I tell them did you only smoke joints before? Or did you use a Pinch hitter sometimes, a bong others, then bowl. Not to mention the slightly different highs and vape signatures I get from each. There is not perfect vape, only a perfect rotation of vapes! :2c:
 
Sasquatch_Jr

Sasquatch_Jr

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Just got word from S&B that they approved my request to upgrade from a Crafty to a Mighty! After 3 failed Cratfys since November 2014 I'm looking forward to having the same great vape tech in a more reliable form factor.

Quick question: How well does the Mighty fit in standard Levi's jeans pockets? I occasionally used my Crafty on the go and am hoping to continue this with the Mighty.
 
nb8475

nb8475

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Sasquatch_Jr said:
Just got word from S&B that they approved my request to upgrade from a Crafty to a Mighty! After 3 failed Cratfys since November 2014 I'm looking forward to having the same great vape tech in a more reliable form factor.
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At least someone gets good service. If you dont mind how much did you pay to upgrade? And did they ever charge you for the crafty replacements?

EDIT: Oh and if they already gave you the fedex tracking info: Can you please check and see the listed shipping weight (4th from the top on left column on tracking info).
Cheers:leaf:
 
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ade848

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Sasquatch_Jr said:
Just got word from S&B that they approved my request to upgrade from a Crafty to a Mighty! After 3 failed Cratfys since November 2014 I'm looking forward to having the same great vape tech in a more reliable form factor.

Quick question: How well does the Mighty fit in standard Levi's jeans pockets? I occasionally used my Crafty on the go and am hoping to continue this with the Mighty.
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I upgraded to a Mighty after two Craftys suffered from broken housing. Mighty is great but not for Jean pockets imo...got the Pax2 + GH for out, depending on the circumstances
 
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Sasquatch_Jr

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nb8475 said:
At least someone gets good service. If you dont mind how much did you pay to upgrade? And did they ever charge you for the crafty replacements?

EDIT: Oh and if they already gave you the fedex tracking info: Can you please check and see the listed shipping weight (4th from the top on left column on tracking info).
Cheers:leaf:
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$60 for the Mighty upgrade. Both replacement Craftys were shipped out at no cost but I never had cracked housing or dead batteries. In all 3 cases the units stopped heating and sometimes had the yellow and red flashing lights. Just payed the upgrade invoice today so I don't realistically expect it to ship until Monday but I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it gets out today so it can at least start making its way through the postal system over the weekend.

ade848 said:
I upgraded to a Mighty after two Craftys suffered from broken housing. Mighty is great but not for Jean pockets imo...got the Pax2 + GH for out, depending on the circumstances
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stickstones said:
It should fit, unless you're into tight jeans.
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Certainly not a tight jeans guy! No biggie if it doesn't fit though. My Crafty was used at home 99% of the time. Probably blasphemous around here but I usually roll joints for the rare toke in public. The joys of living in the PNW!
 
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dirtdragon

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I had posted several times about my difficulty getting some repairs done on my Mighty. Forms and emails were not returned. Well, I was finally able to get ahold of them via the oakland address. They said they had been replying to my emails and forms but no idea why I did not receive them. Maybe my ISP was blocking the americas address.

Anyways, I just received my replacement mighty and I'm now a happy camper. Sorry for all the bad press as the Mighty is an awesome vape and I'm now happy that I am able to contact S&B.
 
WakeAndVape

WakeAndVape

VapeLife X
@nb8475 every time I have heard of someone having service denied at Oakland for housing, it was because the housing was split and exposed...when mine have failed like this (twice) I sent it in with a rubber band around it...

My theory is: when they receive cracked housing they treat them like drops unless you tell them the housing chipped piece by piece

Also bringing up battery life as a reason for return will almost always trigger a need to charge for replacement deal...

I have never cleaned the mighty before sending it either.

They have given me some runaround and I hate S&B okaland...but if you know how to word things it helps ease some of the pains.

I'd also be willing to bet 100% they sent you a new unit.

Edit: this was from my last time...they sent me a new unit too

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nb8475

nb8475

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@WakeAndVape

Thanks for the diligence.. Well, I did tell them the housing cracked and chipped through normal use, and was careful with my wording. I might have done myself a disservice by sending too much info. I also was careful to not mention the battery life.

So you're saying when you ship it in with a rubber band around it they treat it differently? That's odd.

I wish I could be as confident as you I'm receiving a new unit. Your picture gives me hope; my package is 1lb heavier than that. However, per the last message I received from S&B I will not be getting a new one:

"We will repair your device, but it may need servicing again in the future.

Our Warranty dose not cover failures do to wear and tear. "

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greenmunster

greenmunster

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Been looking for the easy flow 18mm adaptor. Where can this be purchased in the states? Looking to use a hydratube with the mighty.

Is there a sub area for adaptors and such?
 
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subway13029

subway13029

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You can get the easy flow from vapefiend..its not in states but they ship super quick and you dint have to pay the vat so it will be cheaper than their site says..just gotta pay shipping..not too paid..i ordered mine drom a site called vaping fans??it was china and took a month but i was only 15 dollars total..
 
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